# To be less harmless and more polarizing **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [June 16, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931 "2009-06-16T15:08:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/181 "2009-09-09T19:01:57Z")
It’s hard to believe you started this journal only three months ago. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/182 "2009-09-09T20:50:42Z")
> [@moonwhisper](#): > > It’s hard to believe you started this journal only three months ago. Agreed. Still a long ways to go before the year you’ve given yourself is up. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/183 "2009-09-10T04:18:38Z")
Thanks guys! I’m glad I found this forum and I’m glad that I discovered pheromones. Two great tools for self-improvement! ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/184 "2009-12-19T20:30:32Z")
My New P83 Based Mixes - Proximity Mix and Booster Mix I haven’t posted in my journal for a while but I’ve been playing with my pheromones and trying to come up with the perfect mix. I don’t know if I found my perfect mix yet but I’ve found my best mixes yet. **Metaltree Proximity Mix Version 1.0 (Proximity v1.0) 1 Part P83 (50 mcg per spray) 1 Part TUTH 2X 1 Part Instant Honesty 2x 1 Part [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 1x 1 Part Cologne** I designed this mix to spray under my clothing. Therefor my main concern was too much none that would stick to my clothing and make it smell even after washing. The only none in this mix is from the TUTH and it’s a small amount so I don’t think my clothing will spell after wearing it even if I spray 4 sprays. When I wear this stuff I always wear 4 sprays. I put I spray on my stomach, one on my left side, one on my right side, and one on the back of my neck. This mix causes people to be more talkative. It causes women that don’t normally touch me to hug me, rub my shoulders, and act like they are more attracted to me than usual. It also causes more women that usual to check me out and move near me. This mix is definitely has some attraction elements to it. **Metaltree Booster Mix Version 1.0 (Booster v1.0) 1 Part NPA 2 Parts TUTH 2 Parts Cologne** I wear 1 spray of this mix on my throat in addition to 4 sprays of the Proximity mix. I also will always wear 2 drops of A314 on my wrists when I use the booster. The booster with the proximity mix and A314 has given me a ton of IOIs and the easiest ONS of my life. My main concern with the Proximity mix is the P83 availability. I still have a lot of P83 left but I want to conserve it. With 4 sprays of the proximity mix I’m walking around with 40mcg of P83. I’m thinking of cutting the p83 dosages in half and adding some more Instant Openess to it instead. I wonder if this would weaken the overall mix because the centerpiece of the mix in a high dose of P83. I’m also thinking of getting A1 from Love Sent and adding a couple drops of A1 into the togo bottle with the rest of the ingredients. Maybe that will make up for cutting back on the P83. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/185 "2009-12-22T19:20:57Z")
Lovescent A314 vs A314 Rev21 Batch 6 Early in my pheromone testing I realized that I got a lot of hits when I combined IJ or TUTH with A314. A314 was out of stock for a couple of weeks and I panicked and purchased a bottle of the Lovescent version of A314. I’ve tried both over the last several months and it has become quite clear to me that the Androtics version compliments IJ/TUTH much better than the Lovescent version. As a matter of fact, no matter what none heavy mix I’m using I will always get more hits when I use the Androtics version than when I use the lovescent version. Some members, especially Gegogi, seem to like the lovescent version better. I don’t know why the Lovescent version gives me fewer hits. I know the Androtics version as more pheromones in it and I wonder if that has something to do with it? ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/186 "2009-12-28T05:31:38Z")
Glad you’re back! You’ve been missed. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/187 "2009-12-29T04:08:39Z")
> [@moonwhisper](#): > > Glad you’re back! You’ve been missed. Looks like you’re back too! ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/188 "2009-12-29T20:58:13Z")
Yessir. Did you miss me much? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/189 "2009-12-30T01:27:10Z")
> [@moonwhisper](#): > > Yessir. Did you miss me much? 😛 Of course. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cherub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cherub/32/1282_2.png) [@Cherub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cherub)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/190 "2009-12-30T01:38:21Z")
very nice mix!welcome back! ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/191 "2010-01-08T17:00:30Z")
Booster Mix 1.1 I reformulated my booster mix: **Metaltree Booster Mix Version 1.1** 1 Part NPA 3 Parts IJ 1 Part [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) (50 mcg/spray) 3 Parts IO 2 Parts Cologne This mix has only half the NPA as the original booster. It has some IJ to compensate but not quite enough to be as strong as the original. It also has some IO which weakens the mix even more and some P83 to do whatever it does. This booster is definitely weaker that version 1.0 so I’m planning on using two sprays when I go to bars/clubs instead of 1 spray. I’m going to spray a spray to each side of my neck. In theory that should make it diffuse more slowly compared to my throat since there are no major arteries near the surface on the side of the neck. That is another reason why I should be able to get away with 2 sprays. I’ll use three sprays of my proximity mix underneath my clothing. 1 Spray to the lower left of my side 1 Spray to the lower right of my side 1 Spray to my belly button area I’ll continue to use 2 drops of A314 so I’ll come across as a high status pervert instead of a low status pervert. 🙂 I’ll report back in a couple of months and report if there is any improvement compared to the original mix. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/192 "2010-01-08T17:08:42Z")
My Collection Here is a photo of my collection: ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/193 "2010-01-16T18:04:59Z")
Super Sexual Borderline O.D. Mixes I haven’t had time to go out lately because I’m getting slammed with work. I should be working right now but I took a little time off this morning to make new pheromone mixes and read my favorite forum. 🙂 When I first started using pheromones before I started using this journal I went to bars/clubs with TUTH and I got some nice hits from it. I also saw the potential negative effects when some women were put off by it. The whole reason people buffer the sexual pheromones with socials is to reduce the negative effects of the sexual pheromones while trying to preserve the positive effects. I’ve gotten laid with both unbuffered sexual pheromones and with buffered sexual pheromones so I know both can work. I want to go back to my roots of using pure sexual pheromones without any buffering at all. I know what to expect both positive and negative from a strong sexual pheromone mix. The only problem is that I won’t have time to hit the bars/clubs for a few weeks because I’m so overloaded with work. But I made some new sexual mixes that are read to go when I start going out again: **Metaltree Power Mix Version 1.0** 2 Parts NPA 4 Parts [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) 1 Part P83 (50mcg/Spray) 3 Parts Cologne **Metaltree Sexual Mix Version 1.0** 7 Parts TUTH2X 1 Part P83 2 Parts Cologne I think I will hit the clubs with this borderline overdose pheromone overload: 1 Spray Metaltree Power Mix Back-Left of my Neck 1 Spray Metaltree Power Mix Back-Right of my Neck 1 Spray Metaltree Sexual Mix to my Stomach 1 Spray Metaltree Sexual Mix to the left side of my lower back 1 Spray Metaltree Sexual Mix to the right side of my lower back 3 Drops of A314 to wrists The above sprays will roughly equivalent to the following: 2 Sprays of the Edge 1 Spray of Instant Jerk 1 Spray of 25mcg P83 4 Sprays of TUTH 3 Drops of A314 1 Spray of Cologne This is definitely a mix that is a potentially overdose mix but it will be fun to try a few times. I can’t wait until February when I hopefully will have more time to go out to bars/clubs alone again. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/194 "2010-01-17T00:22:30Z")
Decided to go out tonight I decided that it’s too nice of a night not to go out. The temperatures will be above freezing the entire night. I’m going to wear 2 sprays of the Power Mix + 3 sprays of the Sexual Mix + 3 Drops of A314. I’m a little bit nervous about this mix. I think this is going to be the strongest set of pheromones I’ve gone out and I’m not sure how they will all play together. I might become ghosted and repulse people. But I’m hoping that my vibe captures women’s attention. 🙂 I haven’t written a field report in quite a while. I’ll write one tomorrow regardless of how good or bad the night goes. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/195 "2010-01-17T22:34:30Z")
Last night I went out with 2 sprays of my power mix and 3 sprays of my sexual mix. Nothing exciting happened and my night would make a pretty boring field report. So, I’ll put down a summary of the new combo. 1. No O.D. or ghosting. 🙂 2. A handful of blatent IOIs of various kinds. 3. I did one warm approach after a girl standing next to me bumped into me like 20 or 30 times. She opened as expected but her not so attractive friend jumped in and started to hit on me so I backed off. 4. I did one cold approach at the end of the night and the two girls where very friendly with one of them boobing me several times. I couldn’t close. 5. No girls approached me at all in the four hours I was in the bars. 6. When I would just stand there in the middle sipping my drink groups of girls would migrate towards me and hover around me sneaking a peak at me once in a while. This has happened with other mixes too. I’ve gotten similar results to the above mentioned mix with the following combo. 1 Spray of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) 2 Sprays of TUTH 2 Drops of A314 Sometimes I am approached with this combo but I wasn’t approached at all last night with that combo. So maybe the combo I wore last night is not quite as good. But I really like making mixes and I want to play with fire for a while so I’m going to continue wearing the same mixes as last night until the bottles run out. Then I might change things up or add in socials again. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/196 "2010-01-24T16:53:07Z")
Sexual Mix/Power Mix Friday/Saturday Night Friday night and night I went out with 2 sprays of my power mix and 3 sprays of my sexual mix. This combo of pheromones is definitely NOT at a sweet spot for me but it does have some potential. I’ve been out three times with this mix and I think it does have potential. Highlights from this weekend with the mix: 1. I wasn’t ghosted at all but I might have been considered unapproachable. No girls approach me with this mix. 2. Sometimes groups of women will stand near me for long periods of time. This is not an IOI. It just means that I’m not scaring people off with the high levels of Androstenone. 3. Most of the IOIs I received where at the bar or coat check. Over the course of the weekend a handful of women would make physical contact with me by pushing their elbow against my elbow or their whole body against my body. 4. When I initiated conversations with women, they were more receptive than usual. Most of the time the conversations never took off but they all seemed friendly. I had one long conversation with a girl where she talked non stop. This seems to happen much more often with high Androstenone mixes. In summary, this combo of pheromones seemed to spark blatant interest in a small percentage of women. This combo makes women more friendly during an approach. I think this combo might be a good combo if I’m in the mood to do lots of cold approaching. But it’s not an ideal mix for when I just want to sip a drink, listen to the music, and people watch. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/197 "2010-01-24T17:17:33Z")
Best combo So Far - Booster V1.0 and Proximity V1.0 So far the best combo so far seems to be the Booster V1.0 and Proximity V1.0. I’m going to switch back to that combo next time I go out. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/198 "2010-01-29T20:42:23Z")
You say with NPA no girl approach you, the problem is that NPA is to sexuell aggressive for younger Woman, they react shy or go away but with A1 they are more relaxed, thats the key and for me 2 Drops NPA are better then 1 Drop. I don’t test IJ or TUTH but the best attention, respect getter and constantly none product is Primal Instinct. The only downside are the dynamic self-effects, PI makes me powerfully but very nervous. PI is louder, more flexible and much trustfully then NPA but NPA hits very hard, is like a erection for Women, they think and tell you are a player but have not much trust in you and the reaction are more stuble without A1. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/199 "2010-01-29T21:21:01Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > You say with NPA no girl approach you, the problem is that NPA is to sexuell aggressive for younger Woman, they react shy or go away but with A1 they are more relaxed, thats the key and for me 2 Drops NPA are better then 1 Drop. That was a very strong mix with a ton of Androstenone I was experimenting with so I was prepared for the fact that it would put off people, especially young women. I ordered A1 earlier this week but it hasn’t arrived yet. I’m going to add it to some of my mixes that are have borderline O.D. levels of Androstenone. I think I’m going to put enough A1 in my mixes that will result in 5mcg per spray and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931/200 "2010-01-29T23:09:57Z")
You say that none with rone (A314) are better than none alone, what is difference between them…? Is rone not weakens the none or can you go therefore higher with none levels? I know that rone alone is only friendship stuff… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931.md?page=9) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-be-less-harmless-and-more-polarizing/29931.md?page=11)