# To get her... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 24, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494 "2011-03-24T05:33:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Business\_As\_Usual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Business\_As\_Usual](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Business_As_Usual)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/1 "2011-03-24T05:33:04Z")
Hi people, As stated, I simply want to get her…and no not in bed, as I have too much respect for her. A girl in my business class. We are friends I would have to say. She is an exchange student. She told me that she is not interested in a relationship, but shows signs of interest with another guy. However, this other guys shows no interest in her. So, I have AMMO, IH, IO, & IS. I do notice some help from these, but nothing real crazy. I am still experimenting though… it’s tough to say because I am very confident, and I know how to start a conversation. I would call myself ugly either…(tall, medium complexion, and I have been referred to as hansome quite often but I don’t want to brag, lol) About her: I find her attractive, she is in her early 20’s, and she likes to have fun. Her definition of having fun, for the most part, is drinking and getting drunk (among a few other things like traveling, etc.). That’s the way it is in Europe… and no, she is not a slut or anything like that. I honestly don’t know if anything here is going to work; I know her or at least have a good idea as to who she is. Of course, things could change if she were to get drunk with me; this has yet to be seen. We are both busy with studies so neither of us have the time at the moment. So… is there something I could do with what I have? OR Is there something here that I could try? I was thinking A314 maybe? TUTH with a few buffers like IG and IS, or others? Or something else out of my already existing arsenal? Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/2 "2011-03-24T05:56:16Z")
Not my cup of tea bro. I specialize in 1 night lays and stands not LTRs. But Radman and Steve would be the guys to ask bro. ---
**Author:** ![famous4nothing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/famous4nothing/32/313_2.png) [@famous4nothing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/famous4nothing)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/3 "2011-03-24T06:02:51Z")
this is more opinion than anything: Remember, you do have to find your sweet spots. Mones only enhance what you already have. If she has absolutely no feelings for you, mones will not change that, usually. When you say you want to get her drunk, I hope it’s not to talk her into doing “stuff” That IS statutory rape, just saying, I don’t want any of my PheroBros getin into any shit. I’d go with some AMMO to pique her interest, IH to establish that deep connection, and dude, I know this is just a personal preference, but I swear by IG. It’s 2AM and I could be speaking out of my ass, but there’s my two cents. ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/4 "2011-03-24T09:11:20Z")
> [@Business\_As\_Usual](#): > > As stated, I simply want to get her…and no not in bed, as I have too much respect for her. So what’s your idea of getting her? What does _“to get her”_ mean to you? And what’s that with the respect thing? I’ve slept with many girls when I was younger, then I spent about 7 years in two LTRs, now I have a couple of friendships with benefits. And I don’t seem to recall any disrespect to any of those girls. And yeah, most of that happened in bed, although sometimes there was an odd bench in the park, or a backstage, or a graveyard, or a bathroom at friend’s house… But I never, not once, tricked a girl into having sex. I mean, of course I was playing my game (even if back then I wasn’t aware of that) to attract her, but they’d always been fully aware what’s going on and it was totally their choice to participate. I was honest; if I was looking for a one night stand, it was pretty much clear. If I saw a girlfriend material in a girl, I was playing it some other way. Sometimes a girl wanted an ONS and I liked her enough to contemplate a LTR. Happens, although they’ll NEVER make something like this clear. It would make her a slut, and that’s what they fear. Anyway, if you want to get drunk with her, because that’s her idea of fun, and you want to show her that you’re the person to have fun with, go get drunk together. But if you want her to get drunk to do something she wouldn’t otherwise, it’s a bad idea. They always have many inhibitions, even if they really want something to happen. And there are much better ways to overcome those than alcohol. As for [pheromones](https://a314.com/)… all of those you mentioned should work. But you really need to test them for your sweet spot, particularly Ammo. Overdosing androstenone is one of the worst thing you can do to yourself (and to your contacts with young girls) when it comes to pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/5 "2011-03-24T11:25:03Z")
@Business As Usual - No you don’t have “respect” for her, you’re putting her on a pedestal. I know, because I did that for many years in my life. Sex is natural and of course fun as hell, and is a vital part of a relationship. To truly respect her, would be to accept the fact that she is a sexual being in her own right. By putting her on a pedestal, and “respecting” her you’re putting her in a position she does NOT want to be in and pressuring her to be something she may not be, or cannot be, and that is perfect in your eyes. The simple truth is she’s a flawed, imperfect human being. And if you don’t think she can feel this pressure, you’re very sorely mistaken. By not allowing her to be a sexual being, and only by seeing her as relationship material, you are the one putting yourself into that dreaded friend zone an accomplishment I have achieved countless times doing the exact same thing. In order for her to become attracted to you, you’re going to have to spark that attraction. You’re going to have to create sexual tension, you’re going to have to evoke feelings and emotions within her mind and body that she can link directly to you. Now then on the other hand, you “respect” her so much it would be okay if all this changed because she was impaired…and no that is NOT statutory rape. To correct the poster above, Statutory rape is sex between a person of age with a person under the legal age of consent. Now what I think you need to do here is get off your high horse and be honest with yourself and her about what your intentions are. NO I don’t mean go speak directly to her. What I am saying is cut the respect bullshit, you want this woman completely. Mind body and soul. Once you’re honest with that, you can be honest with her and not come off as a needy, pushy manipulative wuss bag. You don’t have to announce your undying love for her which at this point would just be weird. But you could very well tell her the truth and act like an honest man filled with integrity around her instead of trying to slide under the radar. She will be far more attracted to that. I remember telling a girl one time, “yeah you’re gonna fall for me, you won’t be able to help it, women just LOVE me.” Took maybe a week before it happened. Once you are honest with yourself and her about your intentions, every interaction now takes on a different meaning. You can take the pressure off of her and yourself. Now you can just act like a normal man and flirt with her, tease her, touch her / kino (in appropriate ways of course) but put up that dreaded clock blocking friend zone. Instead of "respecting’ her and hiding your true intentions as to why you’re hanging around, doing shit for her, kissing up whatever. Women are very intuitive creatures. Even if you tell her that you’re not interested, by your actions she’s going to know it, or know that something is just not right. And knowing either or both of those will only cause her to feel uncomfortable, or sense that there is some reason that you’re untrustworthy. Its taken me a number of years to learn all of this, and I still find myself falling into that trap of being a nice guy who just “respects” women, when truly you’re are being one of the most disrespectful person in their life by just not being the real you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/6 "2011-03-24T12:10:51Z")
Gent gives you a lot of very good advice - I don’t need to reiterate do I? 🙂 > [@Business\_As\_Usual](#): > > We are friends I would have to say. > She told me that she is not interested in a relationship, but shows signs of interest with another guy. However, this other guys shows no interest in her. This may be a lesson all by itself? You may need to take a risk and be less of a friend and more a normal sexual guy around her. > [@](#): > > Her definition of having fun, for the most part, is drinking and getting drunk (among a few other things like traveling, etc.). This is good if you like the same and concentrate on having fun but being yourself too. Ensure that she enjoys herself along with you and stand up for what you want from her but no matter how drunk she is, keep your boundaries - A no is a no whatever. > [@](#): > > I was thinking A314 maybe? TUTH with a few buffers like IG and IS, or others? Or something else out of my already existing arsenal? A314 is very good for prospective relationships - Its fallout/“catch” properties are not to be sniffed at. Along with 314, P74 and IH can be useful, along with a little none - TUTH would be ok in a social/drinking environment when the inhibitions begin to slip. Don’t use it around class tho Ammo may be better here? Also consider something like [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/390 (same thing, different scents) and none (TUTH again) This is a superbly social/attractive/fun and finally sexual mix. I’ve found it useful in helping friends move over to sexual partners. My usual MO is to start a night out with just the 297 and **only** apply the TUTH after a couple of hours if the social interaction, IOI’s and kino escalation are going well - The 297 builds trust comfort and fun, then the none/TUTH can precipitate a sudden “OMG, I’m so horny, lets get out of here” response! 😃 So see what she responds to best - Some girls go for the 297 vibe, whilst others go for the 314 status - Personally I’ve found that mixing those sends confusing and counterproductive signals. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/7 "2011-03-24T13:27:01Z")
> [@Business\_As\_Usual](#): > > We are friends I would have to say. She is an exchange student. **She told me that she is not interested in a relationship, but shows signs of interest with another guy. However, this other guys shows no interest in her.** That’s a green light, right there! Why green light? 'Cause she’s not interested in you, so you need to go in another direction, or! You need to TURN UP THE HEAT! 😉 How old are you, Business Fella; and how old is she? Since we’re all guessing, ‘I’d’ say you need something a tad bit more dominating, as in A314 or IG in your stash for those I AM A MAN OF MEN moments, Sir. It’s like wearing a red shirt to important events … it’s catches the eyes of many … some will talk about you … some will be drawn to you … and some will want to be in your circle. That’s my GUESS FOR TODAY, and still … you’re gonna have to get out there and test it. Now, from what you own … 2-3 sprays (the norm for the Instant Line … IF … you asked me) of each, depending on her age. If she’s only 15 … 😃 … 1 spray of each. 🙄 **P.S.** Never build and put a woman on a pedestal … UNLESS … she builds one for you, right beside hers! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/8 "2011-03-24T14:19:53Z")
Wow bro, everything you said is right in my opinion. I had to quote this line though. > [@thegentleman](#): > > I remember telling a girl one time, “yeah you’re gonna fall for me, you won’t be able to help it, women just LOVE me.” Took maybe a week before it happened. My favorite line used to be “Don’t fall in love with me. I have to much going on right now for that.” Never failed. Well the last time I did that was with my wife, and I fell first, but it still worked. ---
**Author:** ![latrelis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@latrelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/latrelis)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/9 "2011-03-24T21:12:35Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > I remember telling a girl one time, “yeah you’re gonna fall for me, you won’t be able to help it, women just LOVE me.” Lol had to use this on the girl I really like, think it worked quite well 😉 Hope you dont mind that I borrowed your line 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/10 "2011-03-24T21:27:12Z")
> [@latrelis](#): > > Lol had to use this on the girl I really like, think it worked quite well 😉 Hope you dont mind that I borrowed your line 🙂 Use with caution - Last time I used a line like that on a woman, she broke two of my ribs in bed. Had fun explaining that one to my doc, colleagues, friends, family etc… :o ---
**Author:** ![Business\_As\_Usual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Business\_As\_Usual](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Business_As_Usual)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/11 "2011-03-25T06:05:14Z")
> [@famous4nothing](#): > > this is more opinion than anything: > Remember, you do have to find your sweet spots. > Mones only enhance what you already have. If she has absolutely no feelings for you, mones will not change that, usually. > When you say you want to get her drunk, I hope it’s not to talk her into doing “stuff” That IS statutory rape, just saying, I don’t want any of my PheroBros getin into any shit. > I’d go with some AMMO to pique her interest, IH to establish that deep connection, and dude, I know this is just a personal preference, but I swear by IG. > It’s 2AM and I could be speaking out of my ass, but there’s my two cents. Dude, I understand your concern, but totally not going down that route. While I am putting the finishing touches on my Business Degree, I am an officer of the law… ---
**Author:** ![Business\_As\_Usual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Business\_As\_Usual](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Business_As_Usual)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-get-her/49494/12 "2011-03-25T06:12:06Z")
Wow peoples, I have been so damn busy, I haven’t been able to see what’s up until now! Lots of good questions that I should elaborate on, and I will. Right now, I am in the thick of things though. Full time class, full time work, and I am taking off for a business simulation/competition tommorrow and it’s going to last all week. I take a plane tomorrow morning. I will answer more questions as soon as possible. Thanks