# To Phero Experts: Advice on the BEST spray doses for "Experimone" series? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 16, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166 "2007-04-16T22:18:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![unknown\_user88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown_user88/32/842_2.png) [@unknown\_user88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown_user88)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/1 "2007-04-16T22:18:11Z")
_**This is aimed at more the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) genius’… Lately i have been looking through the experimone series, mainly alpha androstenol, TAL, TAA. I just want the basic specific pheromone so i know exactly what i am applying without having those extra things which are used to tweak it. But in order to order these, what mcg is it best for me to use, how many sprays of 2.5mcg would it take to start taking effect, cos i read in a reply by Toil that he uses 100mcg, that would be 40 sprays of 2.5mcg, or do you order a higher level of mcg and spray less?? Cheerz!**_ ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/2 "2007-04-16T22:43:02Z")
> [@unknown\_user88](#): > > _**This is aimed at more the pheromone genius’… Lately i have been looking through the experimone series, mainly alpha androstenol, TAL, TAA. I just want the basic specific pheromone so i know exactly what i am applying without having those extra things which are used to tweak it. But in order to order these, what mcg is it best for me to use, how many sprays of 2.5mcg would it take to start taking effect, cos i read in a reply by Toil that he uses 100mcg, that would be 40 sprays of 2.5mcg, or do you order a higher level of mcg and spray less?? > Cheerz!**_ Order a higher concentration. Low concentrations are good for experimenting with dosing at a relatively low initial price. Once you’ve experimented thoroughly enough and have a good idea of what your ideal amount is, try to order a concentration that is close to what you would wear in one application, as this is a better value in the long run. For example, with P79, I found my sweet spot with it was around 25mcg (I literally sprayed 10 sprays at 2.5mcg lol), so I bought a bottle of P79 at 25mcg per spray. Might be a little costly at first, but its definitely a better value when a bottle lasts you 200 applications, as opposed to 20. In the example of P79, at 25mcg per spray, I spent 57.95 (ouch)…However, given my current usage, this bottle will last me at least a year, if not longer. However, if I were to buy 10 bottles of p79 at 2.5 mcg per spray, I would have spent 149.50 over the course of about a year (super OUCH). ---
**Author:** ![unknown\_user88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown_user88/32/842_2.png) [@unknown\_user88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown_user88)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/3 "2007-04-16T23:14:46Z")
ahhh thanks!! i thought it was something along those lines, i’ll probably order Alphanol and Tal at 10mcg to practice with at 1st. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/4 "2007-04-17T00:14:40Z")
> [@unknown\_user88](#): > > ahhh thanks!! i thought it was something along those lines, i’ll probably order Alphanol and Tal at 10mcg to practice with at 1st. I would say for TAL you could go lower since it has been reported to be effective at very low doses anthing from 2.5-7.5 mcg. So going with 2.5 or 5 mcg per spray makes sense for it. Alphanol on the other hand is effective at higher dosages. 10 mcg is satisfactory but if it was me I will go with atleast 15 mcg/spray. Cuts the overall cost down by some amount! ---
**Author:** ![unknown\_user88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown_user88/32/842_2.png) [@unknown\_user88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown_user88)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/5 "2007-04-17T01:19:31Z")
also another 2 silly questions. Which is best to reduce LMR, TAL or p79. And which would be more effective, Spaceland or 10mcg bottle of Alphanol to?? does the taa or whatever it is in the Spaceland make you come across as more approachable than pure Alphanol? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/6 "2007-04-17T02:08:27Z")
> [@unknown\_user88](#): > > also another 2 silly questions. Which is best to reduce LMR, TAL or p79. > And which would be more effective, Spaceland or 10mcg bottle of Alphanol to?? does the taa or whatever it is in the Spaceland make you come across as more approachable than pure Alphanol? TAL would probably work better at reducing LMR than P79. Spaceland is pure alpha-nol at 50mcg/spray ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/7 "2007-04-17T02:10:45Z")
Or you could just saying “yeah we need to slow this down and slow it down.” It works wonders. Sometimes I even break out the popcorn. Seriously it works wonders on LMR ---
**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/8 "2007-11-19T18:56:44Z")
Is there a part of the site that states the different effects of the puntitive [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) / expieremones? I see people talking about them all the time, but never have actually seen what they each do. No info on reviews of the smartmones site - unfortunatly. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/9 "2007-11-19T23:17:43Z")
Read MadisonTate’s - The “MAD TATER” Journal in the stickey above. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/10 "2007-11-20T00:35:41Z")
Remember that Tater is just one persons test results. Everyone will not get the same results as he will. Its the accumilation of reports from different testers that shows what a product will do not the reports of one tester. Now dont get me wrong I love Tater and his journal (especially covered in syrup) but I dont want users to be discouraged because they dont get the same results. > [@](#): > > _ **This is aimed at more the pheromone genius’… Lately i have been looking through the experimone series, mainly alpha androstenol, TAL, TAA. I just want the basic specific pheromone so i know exactly what i am applying without having those extra things which are used to tweak it. But in order to order these, what mcg is it best for me to use, how many sprays of 2.5mcg would it take to start taking effect, cos i read in a reply by Toil that he uses 100mcg, that would be 40 sprays of 2.5mcg, or do you order a higher level of mcg and spray less??** _ This question really cant be anwsered because they are test products for advanced users. You can buy them of course but please be sure to come back and report on them. In the future the site will reflect this and you will be unable to get them if you dont report on them. > [@](#): > > Order a higher concentration. Low concentrations are good for experimenting with dosing at a relatively low initial price. Once you’ve experimented thoroughly enough and have a good idea of what your ideal amount is, try to order a concentration that is close to what you would wear in one application, as this is a better value in the long run. For example, with P79, I found my sweet spot with it was around 25mcg (I literally sprayed 10 sprays at 2.5mcg lol), so I bought a bottle of P79 at 25mcg per spray. Might be a little costly at first, but its definitely a better value when a bottle lasts you 200 applications, as opposed to 20. In the example of P79, at 25mcg per spray, I spent 57.95 (ouch)…However, given my current usage, this bottle will last me at least a year, if not longer. However, if I were to buy 10 bottles of p79 at 2.5 mcg per spray, I would have spent 149.50 over the course of about a year (super OUCH). I agree with sigma on this. First you must know how much you need and Androtics suggests getting the lowest dose the first time round. Then you test it and determine your best dosage. If you like the product on your next purchase you will know how much to use. Generally it will be higher though but dont go as high as Toil when purchasing. Also keep in mind each one is different so the dosage will be different. Good Luck and be sure to let us know how you do. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Savinien](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savinien/32/1310_2.png) [@Savinien](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savinien)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/11 "2007-11-20T01:25:25Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > Sometimes I even break out the popcorn. Seriously it works wonders on LMR Okay, just what **exactly** do you mean by that, SteveO? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Savinien](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savinien/32/1310_2.png) [@Savinien](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savinien)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/12 "2007-11-20T01:28:02Z")
> [@z414a4d](#): > > Is there a part of the site that states the different effects of the puntitive pheromones / expieremones? They don’t do anything. Until you buy them and try them. Then you report about what they do for you. Experiment - get it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![spot007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@spot007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spot007)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/13 "2007-11-20T05:18:29Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Low concentrations are good for experimenting with dosing at a relatively low initial price. Once you’ve experimented thoroughly enough and have a good idea of what your ideal amount is, try to order a concentration that is close to what you would wear in one application, as this is a better value in the long run. For example, with P79, I found my sweet spot with it was around 25mcg (I literally sprayed 10 sprays at 2.5mcg lol), so I bought a bottle of P79 at 25mcg per spray. I agree that you get your best value for your dollar this way, but if you like to spread it around a little (i.e.: not just one application point), then you’re likely better off at a lower dose concentration. Thus, 10 mcg concentrations might be better: if the sweet spot is between 20-30 mcgs, then you can apply 2-3 sprays on various locations (neck + chest + wrists, or whatever is your fancy), and get better coverage and more diffusion points. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/14 "2007-11-20T08:04:42Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Read MadisonTate’s - The “MAD TATER” Journal in the stickey above. Wow. Ive been both recommended and slammed in the same thread…and i havent even posted! Its not easy being Tater. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/15 "2007-11-20T08:57:18Z")
> [@z414a4d](#): > > Is there a part of the site that states the different effects of the puntitive pheromones / expieremones? I see people talking about them all the time, but never have actually seen what they each do. No info on reviews of the smartmones site - unfortunatly. Along with what Tisha said, also keep in mind that the Experimones and Putatives are available to purchase for testing purposes. Androtics wants to know what it does for **you.** Once results are somewhat predictable, then I would imagine they would graduate to a consumer product and get a name. So, my advice for you would be to search the forums for a particular putative or experimone and see what the consensus is, if there is one. It’s highly possible that 10 people testing the same product would get 10 different results. EDIT: Whoops… This is what I get for not checking for other pages in a thread. Heh -D4 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/16 "2007-11-20T16:41:50Z")
I believe that what he meant was that when the girl is starting to get all hot and bothered, backing off can increase her desire even more and melt away any LMR. And he is right, sometimes backing off when they are ready to take things to the next level can literally have them ripping off your clothes 😃 > [@Savinien](#): > > Okay, just what **exactly** do you mean by that, SteveO? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/17 "2007-11-20T19:17:51Z")
Hence my famed popcorn take-away: HB: Kiss me SteveO SO: Kiss Kiss HB: Love me SteveO SO: Let’s make hot buttered popcorn first, you do want some popcorn right? HB: Are you joking? SO: Of course not. Look if you got something against popcorn well I’m not sure you’re right for me. HB: No, I like popcorn, but I mean what about me SO: I’ll make enough for both of us. HB: (Takes off pants) You still want popcorn baby? SO: Yeah, we can always have sex, but popcorn is special HB: Attacks SteveO while attempting to break him. SO: Well I guess we can make popcorn later. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-phero-experts-advice-on-the-best-spray-doses-for-experimone-series/3166/18 "2007-11-21T00:25:34Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Wow. Ive been both recommended and slammed in the same thread…and i havent even posted! Its not easy being Tater. 😮 Now now Tater I do hope your not refering to me slamming you because that was just a small nudge. I promise if I ever do slam you I will be gentle. (snort) 😃 I just ment your more experienced with mones and since mones just enhance they are enhancing your already stunning personality. 😉 Tisha