# to pickup girls **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 25, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314 "2009-01-25T04:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ericm2487](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7993a0/32.png) [@ericm2487](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ericm2487)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/1 "2009-01-25T04:20:22Z")
during the daytime. is a314 helpful here. what have you guys found to be your special mixes in this situation? ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/2 "2009-01-25T04:24:27Z")
it depends on your personality and and the target personality too. ---
**Author:** ![ericm2487](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7993a0/32.png) [@ericm2487](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ericm2487)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/3 "2009-01-25T04:30:02Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > it depends on your personality and and the target personality too. well i’m into younger(legal) girls. if that helps. ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/4 "2009-01-25T04:34:52Z")
I use a314 to pick up on girls using a direct approach and it works great. One thing to remember when wearing such a product is that you must align yourself with the persona your projecting. A314 projects a pretty alpha vibe hence the need to lead instead of follow. I find that if you don’t align yourself properly A314 will work to some degree but will short out in most peoples heads causing you to blend more in with a crowd..becoming more unnoticed and you will not get the results you desire. I love A314 as a standalone usually 1 drop split between the back of my hands and on my neck..some complain of the smell..but I really like it. If i want to lighten the mood a bit and seem more approachable ill add a dash of instant openness. It all depends on your personal preference. Good luck, Nick 😃 > [@ericm2487](#): > > during the daytime. is a314 helpful here. what have you guys found to be your special mixes in this situation? ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/5 "2009-01-25T06:56:05Z")
A314 is good for alpha vibe. it projects you as respected, dependable and capable man. however you need to act, talk and behave like an alpha man in order not to confuse your target. add ammo for the attraction. it can mildly attract girls sexually. ---
**Author:** ![Diablo\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Diablo\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Diablo_1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/6 "2009-01-25T07:36:32Z")
Hi man I am new to this phero thing… I want to try it… What do you think of this combination A314 and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)??? I am a reasonably good looking guy… I have no problems in approch… In my approch with women in bar clubs and social situation I have got more rejections than sucess… I am quite optmastic and sort of live in my own beliefs… I don’t let other peoples opnions govern me… I can get girls, but non of them last with me… I see alot of guys who don’t do much and they manage to get girls who stick with them… They are not as good looking but its something… I often ask the girls what is it that you like about them… They say that it the way they feel around them… So thats what made me do some research and I stumbled upon this blog site… I have read the game and Double your Dating and my pick up is quite good but I feel I can do so much better… Do you think A314 and Instant Shine will do it for me and give me that edge??? Hope to hear from you soon … I will very much appreciate your advice… Thanks… ---
**Author:** ![Diablo\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Diablo\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Diablo_1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/7 "2009-01-25T07:38:14Z")
Hi that message was for Tama1981K ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/8 "2009-01-25T08:01:46Z")
A314 will increase your value in the eyes of women. I love it. It may be exacrly what you are looking for. That said, a lot of younger guys like Ammo better. Some prefer [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). Instant Shine is a good addition. So is Instant Honesty and Instant Openness. Adding all three to A314 (or Ammo or Instant Gentleman) usually works great. If I had to choose one of the of the three for you (given what you said about wanting to keep a woman), I would recommend Instant Honesty first. ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/9 "2009-01-25T08:58:10Z")
> [@Diablo](#): > > Hi man I am new to this phero thing… I want to try it… What do you think of this combination A314 and Instant Shine??? > > I am a reasonably good looking guy… I have no problems in approch… In my approch with women in bar clubs and social situation I have got more rejections than sucess… > > I am quite optmastic and sort of live in my own beliefs… I don’t let other peoples opnions govern me… > > I can get girls, but non of them last with me… I see alot of guys who don’t do much and they manage to get girls who stick with them… They are not as good looking but its something… I often ask the girls what is it that you like about them… They say that it the way they feel around them… So thats what made me do some research and I stumbled upon this blog site… > > I have read the game and Double your Dating and my pick up is quite good but I feel I can do so much better… Do you think A314 and Instant Shine will do it for me and give me that edge??? > > Hope to hear from you soon … I will very much appreciate your advice… > > Thanks… Warning!! the folowing contains some strong language and adult situations…viewer discretion is advised…now that we have that out of the way… Shine happens to be another favorite of mine. Not only dose it put me in a good mood it puts others around me in a good mood. Shine will take the edge off of A314 and make you more easy to be around but its not necessarilly going to help you in your game. Pheros accent who you are and put a shiny finishing coat on whats already there..they do not change your game. I am not going to say that one way of picking up women is better than another or try pushing something on you that you really do not need. Ive read just about every pick up book out there..spent countless hours studying the latest materials and practically gone broke on several occasions to learn how to be real good with women. I eventually made friends with a ton of guys who were really good with women and learned a lot more than I could have by hanging around with guys who wished they were good with girls and did nothing about it. Some of the things I have learned over the years are…Try to be real with people as much as possible..you do not need any tricks or flashy things to get a womans attention…just go over there and talk to them…over 90% of women will be happy to talk to you if you seem warm and genuine enough. When I say real..I mean do not let people walk all over you, get respect and give it when its earned…grow a pair…women like leaders, men who know what they want and go after it. Would you let your friends walk all over you? Why would you do so with women? Just a thought to keep in mind… Women like men with balls but, not complete jackasses either…any guy that tells you to be a complete asshole to women has no real respect for women or himself. A guy that can approach a girl and not seem intimitaded by them looks ten times more attractive than a guy who is unsure of himself dosent know exactly what he wants. LEAD LEAD LEAD..I can not stress it enough…stand up straight and walk with some pride..you are a man for god sakes. If you get to the point of making out with a girl and you want her to give you some head..do not pussy foot around it by telling her what you want by mumbling it halfheartedly…tell her with confidence and you will get it without her laughing about it or thinking about it too much to say no. Speaking of laughing…having a sense of humor is a definate plus…if you can learn to be a master flirt it works so much more in your favor. Any other questions ill be happy to answer 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diablo\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Diablo\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Diablo_1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/10 "2009-01-25T11:08:10Z")
To Tama1981k Hey man thanks for your advice I really appreciate it… Hey so what do you think will be a good combination… A314 with Instant Shine or A314, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty??? There was another bloger who said that Instant Honesty is powerful stuff and that using it might make you say things without knowing??? Is this effect on me or on the target??? Also what is the different between [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty??? Thanks man Hope to hear from you soon ---
**Author:** ![Tama1981K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tama1981k/32/1685_2.png) [@Tama1981K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tama1981K)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/11 "2009-01-25T11:25:48Z")
> [@Diablo](#): > > To Tama1981k > > Hey man thanks for your advice I really appreciate it… Hey so what do you think will be a good combination… > > A314 with Instant Shine > or A314, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty??? > > There was another bloger who said that Instant Honesty is powerful stuff and that using it might make you say things without knowing??? Is this effect on me or on the target??? > > Also what is the different between Instant Openness and Instant Honesty??? > > Thanks man Hope to hear from you soon Instant honesty is a quick trust formula that makes someone feel like they have known you for a long time and they are more likely to tell you stuff they wouldn’t normally tell others they just met. You can have self effects so I suggest you try it out a few times before leaving the house so you get used to its effects. The difference between Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is that Instant honesty creates deep rapport with a feeling of deep trust while openness just makes you seem less intimidating and much more approachable. As far as mixes go…its up to a matter of personal preference and what effects you are trying to create. A314 goes great with just about anything except for instant jerk which makes you come across as way too intimidating.😃 btwy your combos seem to work for me…but your body chemistry is different than mine so I can not give you exact combos…but ill post them if you ask 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diablo\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Diablo\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Diablo_1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/12 "2009-01-25T11:38:05Z")
Hi Tama1981K So what is the best combo… Because I initally planed to just purchase A314 and Instant Shine… Which is a good combo… But I also came across 2 blogger who said they use A314 Instant Shine and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)… So I am not sure… Do I just stick to A314 and Instant Shine or should I also add Instant Honesty into the combo??? Why do you mean by body chemistry??? Can you help me make a decision??? I am counfused man ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-pickup-girls/25314/13 "2009-01-25T15:55:21Z")
Diablo, When you enter the Men’s advice, tips and tricks forum the first posts you see are stickey threads. Read [Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159) ( [![](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/misc/multipage.gif) ](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/misc/multipage.gif) [1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159) [2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159) [3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159) … [Last Page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159)) and [The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) ( [![](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/misc/multipage.gif) ](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/misc/multipage.gif) [1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) [2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) [3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) … [Last Page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879)). These threads are awesome to better explain the products and and their chemistry. They will cover body chemistry and how the products work differently for each person. It may save you some $ by stearing you toward the product that will work best for what you are trying to accomplish It really helped mewhen I first started. Also, read the rest of the sticky’s. There is a lot of great info in there. Good luck!