# To the beach!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 24, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590 "2010-06-24T22:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/1 "2010-06-24T22:29:52Z")
Ok, so I just ordered a bunch of mones last night, and provided they get here in time, I’ll have them with me on my trip to the beach. I’ve divided the order in two: consumer and putative/experimone so that I’ll maybe have the consumers at least, I’m leaving tomorrow early in the afternoon for a week and I don’t expect to see the custom putative/experimones until I get back. Obviously I won’t be using them much at the actual beach itself unless it’s a night party or something where I don’t expect to go in the water. But I still have a few questions. 1. how do mones/neroli mix with the smell of sunscreen? I have a terrible nose… 2. how well does ocean water+sand get rid of mones? I expect it does it pretty well, which would be good after a mix with none or something that converts to it. It’s very hot and humid, but also pretty to very very windy where I’m going, so it should be interesting. I don’t believe mones get eroded off your skin by the wind, but I’ll definitely have to mind it’s direction and where I should stand compared to my targets (this should also be interesting as I will basically have the ability to instantly see what the full effects are or instantly change back to see what they would act around me without mones simply by taking a couple steps. I’ll also be looking for hits way downwind to see if there are any). Oh and finally, I’m pretty sure when I was reading up on it, it was said that sweat doesn’t speed up the conversion of the androgens to none nearly as much as the bacteria already on the skin or something like that, basically that germ x will prevent that from happening more than being in a cool area, but please correct me if I’m wrong. It’s important as I expect to be sweating a lot more during this trip, and Im interested that if it does convert them faster because of that, then does the increased diffusion mostly compensate for it anyways? I’m very curious to see what they act like in a different environment, provided of course they get here before I leave. Thanks again all and take care!! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/2 "2010-06-24T22:37:23Z")
I’ve tried it before, I’ve had hit and misses. I wouldn’t even waste it unless you’re going to be up close and personal with someone. There is just too much open area and air for it to diffuse to a good effect. If you mix the mones with sunscreen it should diffuse slower. Once it hits the water that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/3 "2010-06-24T22:45:16Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I’ve tried it before, I’ve had hit and misses. I wouldn’t even waste it unless you’re going to be up close and personal with someone. There is just too much open area and air for it to diffuse to a good effect. If you mix the mones with sunscreen it should diffuse slower. Once it hits the water that’s it. Ya… Haha the open spaces thing reminds me… I need a haircut soon, which is the perfect place to test because of the closed space and the fact that they have to stay pretty close to you for a while. I should have remembered that about closed/open spaces. And sunscreen… That makes sense, although I was mainly concerned about how it would smell, as I have plenty of hair to put the mones on, and I could afford not to put sunscreen on a couple places, I don’t burn all that easily. Water killing it makes sense to me. Thanks again!!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/4 "2010-06-24T22:46:23Z")
Just be careful of -none in your hair flight. But I think you knew that already ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/5 "2010-06-24T22:49:15Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Just be careful of -none in your hair flight. But I think you knew that already Haha ya I learned that lesson the hard way, but I don’t wear none for much of anything now that I realize how low my tolerance is. But definitely thanks for the reminder, I could see myself doing that again as it’s been a long time and I’m just getting back into pheros after a long break from them. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/6 "2010-06-24T22:59:21Z")
Its great I love using them as a complement to whatever I’m doing, I gotta get another bottle of is soon too ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/7 "2010-06-24T23:05:29Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Its great I love using them as a complement to whatever I’m doing, I gotta get another bottle of is soon too Definitely this stuff is the bomb, the only reason i stopped is just about my whole batch got contaminated, and i was wearing contaminated pheros for about a week or so before I realized. That kinda put me off and I didn’t have much more extra cash to spare for a little while either. You probably already know this, but don’t touch the dropper bottle top/sprayer opening to your skin! Contamination is scary especially If you can’t tell the difference by smell and can only notice the lack of effects which one might tend to attribute to just an off day. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/8 "2010-06-25T00:39:44Z")
Hmm i accidentally brushed my skin with the corner of the A314 bottle, now I’m a little worried, I haven’t noticed a difference though. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/9 "2010-06-25T03:29:08Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Hmm i accidentally brushed my skin with the corner of the A314 bottle, now I’m a little worried, I haven’t noticed a difference though. the corner shouldnt be bad, and it only happened to me cuz i purposefully wiped off the excess, **including the hole** pretty much every single application. you’re probably fine, although gegogi is the one to ask about it. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/10 "2010-06-25T03:30:15Z")
> [@flight](#): > > the corner shouldnt be bad, and it only happened to me cuz i purposefully wiped off the excess, **including the hole** pretty much every single application. you’re probably fine, although gegogi is the one to ask about it. oh and i also kept them in very warm, dark places generally, like leaving them in my steamy car trunk. not a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/11 "2010-06-25T05:33:15Z")
Well, technically speaking, they are supposed to resist degradation up to 140°F so unless other things in your trunk are melting, I think that is ok… I do understand the contamination though, thanks for the head up! ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-the-beach/39590/12 "2010-06-25T08:21:14Z")
> [@hillke](#): > > Well, technically speaking, they are supposed to resist degradation up to 140°F so unless other things in your trunk are melting, I think that is ok… > > I do understand the contamination though, thanks for the head up! thanks! ya, to be sure, I don’t really know the exact science behind it whatsoever, only general vague ideas and that I managed to do it with a massive batch of mine. Being totally honest here though… my car was not the temp of an oven (which despite being 375 or so usually, isnt all that much, its tolerable for a short time), but was very hot, and I could see how it might be reaching that kind of temperature but dissapating when I opened the door and such, much like an oven. A black painted, black leather seated oven hahaha. I don’t know of course, just a guess, and I’m sure that a factor was constantly wiping that excess off using my skin directly. Also, it started with LS kit set A1, which I don’t know if its treated to resist that quite as well. I think it may have spread actually from the A1 when I applied it before the other pheros or reapplied later. Basically, I did all the wrong things, it was BAADDD.