# to try and to learn! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 26, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356 "2008-09-26T16:28:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leo\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leo_d/32/1931_2.png) [@Leo\_D](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leo_D)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/1 "2008-09-26T16:28:06Z")
Hi everyone, I’ve just got my first order and am eager to try them and share my new experiences with all of you!! as you can probably tell, my name is Leo, m 26 and right now m in the UK. why m here you may ask? well.. since the beginning of 2008, Ive decided to take a trip on self improvement and to try out new ventures and attitudes in order to achieve success in career, social aspects. so, I’ve joined a gym, ive started reading various books on the social interaction and Ive started hanging out at the coolest and most exclusive bars to apply my new acquired knowledge and confidence on the art of pick-up.. (Right now its more of an abstract art that I wont pay anything for.. but am getting there) 🙂 the trip has good and the list is getting bigger and more solid, however its not been all good and Ive had my fair share of disappointments and rejections but that aint gonna stop me 😮 .. anyway, as far as [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are concerned.. One of my ‘friends’ was doing a PhD in chemistry and she mentioned the huge effect of pheromones on the social interactions. so, what did i do? I ebay-ed them and the only one that was found was Pherlure.. now I know there is a huge issue about whether it works or not … but I have to say.. it smells great and 6 outta 10 times of wearing it with Paco Robane – UltraViolet, I get a compliment on the smell and they always ask what m wearing … (AND thats something that is debatable whether it works or not)..😕 so I thought I’d come and try the stuff that you guys Recommend and have tried before .. my first order was for couple of the obvious ones .. A314 instant openness - togo instant shine - togo and turn up the heat Ive not tried any yet, but I’ll be back here to report my experiences in the field .. my success stories will be posted for your entertainment and benefit. My rejections and dramatic endings will be also here for your learning and to hear your input and advice! 🙂 Wish me luck! ---
**Author:** ![esstee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/esstee/32/2082_2.png) [@esstee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/esstee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/2 "2008-09-26T16:59:39Z")
Welcome to the forums! You’ve got a good selection there. Few things you missed that you might want to add to your next order is IH, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IFM. All great products. Pherlure smells great, but doesn’t always work as you mentioned. However, these ones do, 100%. ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/3 "2008-09-26T17:14:57Z")
hey welcome to the forum! yeah i really like ur selection 🙂 ur going to have some great time playing around with them.. try instant openness to increase the quantity of conversation and jsut good times all around, u’ll have a great time with that one 🙂 im also a big fan of instant shine because it not only puts others in a good mood, but me as well.. anyways, gluck! ---
**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/4 "2008-09-26T17:19:00Z")
Hey leo, Welcome to the forum! I like your attitude and your first purhase choice. Have a good time. 😃 Kai ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/5 "2008-09-26T17:30:30Z")
Hi Leo, welcome to the forum! Nobody wants you to fail here, we want you to succeed! Your list of products that you’ve purchased should serve you well, You’ve got some pretty solid choices in there. It looks like you’ve read up on what to buy already, so you’re off to a great start. I can’t offer you any recommendations, what I will suggest though is for you to read up on how to apply the proper dosage, make sure to read Stupid Newbie Tricks in my signature. Actually, all of the links in my signature are useful for you. Also make sure to read the sticky threads in the Men’s section for additional advice on usage. Good luck and enjoy your stay… ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/6 "2008-09-26T17:30:59Z")
> [@Leo\_D](#): > > Ive started hanging out at the coolest and most exclusive bars to apply my new acquired knowledge and confidence on the art of pick-up.. (Right now its more of an abstract art that I wont pay anything for.. but am getting there) 🙂 Hi Leo, you’re quite right; you don’t of course need to pay a thing to learn PUA skills, NLP or self-improvement, there is lots of good information for free on the net. And of course a lot of it just says variations on the same old thing so it is kind of redundant. The free stuff is more than enough to help you develop your own strategies and philosophy. I came across this site from some PUA forum or another - was it [fastseduction.com](http://fastseduction.com)? I forget - and I was quite excited at the sophisticated state of the art and opportunities for not only pickup (which is of course a big theme in this forum 😃) but also other forms of “social engineering” to make life awesome for yourself and those in your vicinity. And it looks like you made some good choices there. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-try-and-to-learn/20356/7 "2008-09-27T00:13:48Z")
Hey Leo Glad you can join us. pheromones are perfect for embarking on a journey of self improvement. We look forward to reading about your experiences. We talk about all sorts of subjects including PUA and Social Intelligence so you found a great place to hang out and compare notes. I see you have tried Pherlure out, it does smell good but I know you will see the difference in hits once you figure out the dosage for you on Androtics products. Go easy on the Turn Up The Heat and use it in the correct environment. It can come on strong. I think AMMO would fit you better but you can research and decide on that one for later. If you have any questions just ask. Welcome aboard 🙂 **Your GC is on the way 😉** Tisha