# To TUTH or not to TUTH **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 21, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197 "2012-07-21T04:32:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/21 "2012-07-24T07:42:14Z")
> [@still18](#): > > You might be using too much TUTH, 1-2 sprays should be more than enough. Four sprays of TUTH is absolutely not unusual for someone in their 40s - Esp around women in their 30s and upwards but you do also occasionally get younger ones who are attuned to such an overt dose. As we age, our natural none output falls and and as a woman ages, she tends to get more comfortable with and responsive to a stronger none signature. So by the time guys hit their late 30s/40s, they can use much larger doses of none more effectively in a wider range of situations. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/22 "2012-07-24T10:55:32Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Interesting - Have you tried MX297 around her. I’ve found it extremely good around women with anxiety/OCD issues. > > Let it work its magic for a couple of hours, **then** introduce some TUTH! 😉 I’ve been reading up on that stuff today as it happens - I noticed you recommended it in another thread. Thanks for the advice. I may well add it to my next order. Unfortunately the bubble burst today. I was mone free all day and a couple of words (a suggestion - nothing more - that only the two of us should feed the stray cats because the kids put out too much food which attracts unwanted pests and just gets wasted) and she kicked off. I had to put up with 20 mins of verbal, then a slap, followed by another 10 mins of verbal. ☹ Because she sees a suggestion as the trait of a control freak her OCD boils to the surface and every mistake I’ve ever made (and everyone elses for that matter) comes to the here and now. I might as well have made all the mistakes over the last 7 years right then! The upshot is I have a date with the floor. I don’t think I’ll be wasting any TUTH on her tonight LOL My anger is cooling now but it’s hard to keep my mouth shut when she starts. My ear is still sore and that ain’t from the verbal. She told me all my hard work is ruined (at least she noticed I was trying - she doesn’t usually) I won’t repeat here everything else she said as it wasn’t cery nice 😃 Anyway, sorry to bring down the the fun tone of the thread. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/23 "2012-07-24T11:54:10Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Four sprays of TUTH is absolutely not unusual for someone in their 40s - Esp around women in their 30s and upwards but you do also occasionally get younger ones who are attuned to such an overt dose. > > As we age, our natural none output falls and and as a woman ages, she tends to get more comfortable with and responsive to a stronger none signature. So by the time guys hit their late 30s/40s, they can use much larger doses of none more effectively in a wider range of situations. He mentioned his TUTH is 5.0mcg, so 4 sprays of that is quite a lot 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/24 "2012-07-24T12:03:21Z")
> [@Damage\_Control](#): > > I’ve been reading up on that stuff today as it happens - I noticed you recommended it in another thread. > > Thanks for the advice. I may well add it to my next order. > > Unfortunately the bubble burst today. I was mone free all day and a couple of words (a suggestion - nothing more - that only the two of us should feed the stray cats because the kids put out too much food which attracts unwanted pests and just gets wasted) and she kicked off. > > I had to put up with 20 mins of verbal, then a slap, followed by another 10 mins of verbal. ☹ > > Because she sees a suggestion as the trait of a control freak her OCD boils to the surface and every mistake I’ve ever made (and everyone elses for that matter) comes to the here and now. I might as well have made all the mistakes over the last 7 years right then! > > The upshot is I have a date with the floor. I don’t think I’ll be wasting any TUTH on her tonight LOL > > My anger is cooling now but it’s hard to keep my mouth shut when she starts. My ear is still sore and that ain’t from the verbal. > > She told me all my hard work is ruined (at least she noticed I was trying - she doesn’t usually) I won’t repeat here everything else she said as it wasn’t cery nice 😃 > > Anyway, sorry to bring down the the fun tone of the thread. ☹ Sweety you really really need to get A1 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/25 "2012-07-24T12:06:05Z")
> [@still18](#): > > He mentioned his TUTH is 5.0mcg, so 4 sprays of that is quite a lot 🙂 Yup, I have used that and more depending on situation. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/26 "2012-07-24T12:08:05Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Sweety you really really need to get A1 😉 > > Tisha Yup - I second this. Without the Sweety, obvs! :o 😃 ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/27 "2012-07-24T12:09:33Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yup, I have used that and more depending on situation. Yea, I noticed in your journal reports, I wish I could pull that off 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/28 "2012-07-24T12:11:15Z")
> [@still18](#): > > Yea, I noticed in your journal reports, I wish I could pull that off 🙂 Be patient, old age comes to us all! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/29 "2012-07-24T12:40:58Z")
I’m a bit wary of buying outside of AD because it’s a bit tricky getting this stuff delivered and keeping it secret from my SO At least with AD I know where I am regarding delivery. I usually have a good idea when I place my order which day I will receive it and so can plan for when she is most likely to be out. Veering slight off topic - What about MX412/MX413? I was thinking about trying this out. Proper testing without any other products to skew the results. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/30 "2012-07-26T01:41:53Z")
Just to round this thread off I have an entry in my journal for my latest test with[TUTH this time buffered with TAC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/19) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197/31 "2012-07-26T04:36:29Z")
Good report! And yes, I find TAC most effective in the 20-40mcg range and IME, it also seems to deliver best when you hit her optimum none dose. All my most dramatic instances with TAC have been with women who respond to pretty overt none dose in the first place and it just seems to help them let rip in double quick time! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-tuth-or-not-to-tuth/56197.md?page=1)