# To you guys who think pheromones get women

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**Created:** [July 13, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-you-guys-who-think-pheromones-get-women/15421 "2008-07-13T00:55:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-you-guys-who-think-pheromones-get-women/15421/1 "2008-07-13T00:55:17Z")

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pheromones don’t get you women. Yes I repeat – pheromones don’t get you women.

What they actually can do varies based on the description. Some of them will work as advertised for you and others won’t. Overall though pheromones are not going to make it so that women hook up with you. That is up to YOU. It all depends on YOU.

What pheromones WILL do is to make your job easier in the following ways:

1. It will cause women to take more interest in you and what you say.

2. It will give you confidence and make you smell nice which will result in more green lights from women for you to go talk to them.

3. If things get physical (even if it’s just physical in regards to a hug or a touch to the back) they will enhance the feelings that she has.

4. Depending on the type of pheromone, it may get her mood to be more constructive for a situation, like how shine tends to put people in good moods.

5. A lot of the time the things you say will have more of an effect on her, and cause a more favorable reaction.

6. Often it will make it less likely that she will blow you off after you spend some time talking to her. Of course if you OD or she is not affected by the pheromones or doesnt like how you smell – than it can just as easily result in her excusing herself more quickly than normal, so it works both ways. 😃

However the marketing that other people use to get people to [buy pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) (not this company which is very straight forward and honest) tends to make it sound like women will be jumping your bones all over and you can just be the same way as you always have been, even if you don’t get women.

This is simply NOT true. You still need to interact with these women, you still need to show intent, you still need to be having fun and not needing anything from them, you still need to bring value to those around you.

What pheromones WILL do is they will give you a slight edge that you might not otherwise have.

At the end of the day either your someone who is comfortable interacting with women, who knows how to talk to them, and who knows how and when to turn them on, to touch them, how to look at them, how to be with them – or your someone who doesn’t. If your someone who doesn’t than the pheromones will just give you a little more practice to become someone who does. If your someone who does than the pheromones will help your batting average a bit.

_ **Some tips for guys who suck with women:** _

Now I don’t want to leave you guys hanging on a negative note if you don’t know how to deal with women. So I will give some basic tips that are nuetral and not personality dependant – that will help you EVERY time:

1. If a woman holds eye contact, smiles, says ANYTHING to you, ASKS for anything from you, touches you, makes a scene in front of you to draw your attention, laughs or giggles at what you say, or listens to you as if your important – than she is interested in you.

2. If you are talking to a woman and she does not leave – even if she is not doing ANYTHING to show interest – than she is interested in you.

- when I say interested i dont mean she wants you to stick a cucumber into her vagina while talking dirty in her ear and spanking her arse. What I mean is she has not yet REJECTED you and is still interested.

1. If you are talking to a woman try to find out some things about her. Who is she here with, is she having fun, what are her plans later, is she adventurous – what kind of person is she. Im not saying make it an interview – but throw these little down to earth tidbits in here and there so you can start to paint a picture of what she is and see if its even what you want. You should always be trying to see if a woman is someone you are even going to want to spend intimate time with, you should never be happy with any woman that will give you the time of day.

2. Be laid back and chill. Often if you two are having fun and connecting on some level the woman will start to make some subtle moves. These are very subtle. If she starts talking about sex or porn or hitting on you or taking it in a sexual direction – or if she is getting turned on – tone it down a bit, dont just jump all over it. There is no rush. If yer meant to hook up in the near future it will happen, you don’t need to salvate. It’s just sex. Sex should be the icing on the cake not the main course and certainly no requirement for talking to her.

3. on the same token if things dont have a sexual vibe to them, spontaneously inject it at some point to see how she reacts, and don’t care how she reacts – you just want to see where she is at. it doesnt really matter how she reacts as long as she is still talking to you after. 🙂

4. finally make sure to touch her a bit at some point. Show a little dominance, show her that she can feel safe by taking control, leading a bit, palming her head, ushering her first with your hand on her lower back, giving her a half hug, spinning her and pulling her in and then pushing her away. Have fun touching her, show her that she is yours, that a night with you will fullfill her deepest desires as a woman that she is afraid to reveal to the average man because she cant trust him to accept her for what she is.

Advanced update:

Also some women get a thrill out of being challenging and having you work for them. Do not take this personally. Do not react to this. Do not try harder or get mad. Just continue to do what your doing, have fun, keep it light, and realize that they do this for YOU. They do it for YOU so that both YOU and HER can have a heightened sense of pleasure and endorphines when and if you two finally do hook up. Just carry on as if it’s no big deal and don’t lose your composure. Act like a man who has been there and done that – even if you haven’t. If she **really** doesn’t want to talk to you anymore, you will get the hint – trust me.

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