# Toeing the Party Line **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [January 3, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029 "2012-01-03T08:03:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jean9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@Jean9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jean9)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029/1 "2012-01-03T08:03:42Z")
Dear Everyone, A couple of years ago I did a lot of experimentation with pheromones here. I was using them in a transgendered sort of way. You can see some posts I made about it. I have since used them in a lot of ways, from gender-bending to being authoritative over my students in class to experiments in my own consciousness. Truth is, I really like them and have found good uses for them. I stopped participating in the forums because it seemed a bit too doctrinaire for my tastes. Yes, I did find some things people told me useful – tips from very experienced people about what is good for what. However, other things I discovered that seemed to run counter to what I was “supposed” to do. A good example is that after about a year of using a314, in situations from multiple job interviews, to parties, to times with my girlfriend, to countless classes where I was the teacher, I got very little effect from it. However, I would notice lots of very natural, positive effects from using “turn up the heat” in most of the above situations. I first noticed that turn up the heat was the most useful of everything I had when I wanted to teach classes without any headaches. It DID seem to increase the “teacher crush” effect on a lot of students (which is a good method of control, in my opinion) – but much more than that, students would just shut up and do what I said, and seemed very calm. Another example is that I have never gotten any positive effects at all from use of “Instant Shine.” All it ever did was give me a headache. Instant Honesty is nice, it’s subtle and natural and give me a nice pleasant feeling to boot. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is good as well. I used to really like the old Come Talk To Me mix, but I don’t think it’s sold any more. With regards to feminine pheromones. I’ve used combinations to produce effects ranging from seductive (ISA + a little cops + TAL) to sweet (ISB, maybe a teeninsy bit of TAL). I actually seemed to ‘trick’ a guy I knew, who was straight as an arrow (I know what you’re thinking, but you don’t know him), into a makeout session when I was outwardly presenting myself as a man but wearing an experimental set of 'mones I’d played with for awhile (had already resulted in guys coming up with excuses to touch me, one ‘straight’ guy touching my belly, etc, etc). It wasn’t my intention that night, but one thing led to another, etc, etc… I’ve also used various feminine combinations to get the boys to calm down in my classes and get a little subtle “teacher crush” going (at least in the sense of coming up with excuses to touch me, becoming very quiet and obedient) and/or get the girls to calm down and feel more at ease – and this is in a culture where I MUST be completely masculine at work. Anyways, I stepped away from the forum but I kept playing… personally, I don’t know what is kosher to talk about, what people will disclaimer the shit out of until it seems utterly meaningless, and what differs so much from most people’s experiences that it wouldn’t be helpful anyways. My purpose in posting is to ask, SHOULD I come back on and post a lot of wild, irreverent, unorthodox, and outside-the-box type of experiences here, or not? –Jeannine (or Johnny) ---
**Author:** ![JoeyBobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JoeyBobo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JoeyBobo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029/2 "2012-01-04T03:04:29Z")
Yes, please post some of the wild, irreverent, unorthodox, and outside-the-box type of experiences you’ve had. I would be very interested in reading about them. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029/3 "2012-01-04T03:25:27Z")
I think the pheros do certain things in general or maybe even certain things for most people. However once you have used them for a while you also realize that personal chemistry and personality can play a big role in how any of these products do or do not work for you. I also rotate the products I use as a base as I have found out if I do not (and other long term users have said the same) people get used to a certain signature and get used to you. You stand out just a little less.That could be what happened with you and the A314. I for one would love to hear your experiences even if they do not fit in with the norm. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029/4 "2012-01-04T15:55:34Z")
Absolutely come back and post! From my own understanding of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) and thinking about them, I believe we all have a unique natural mixture that attracts, repels, or whatever to the same or even opposite sex. In your case, I think your experimentation can show a lot of us the subtle social effects of changing your signature to something more male or more female. I would personally love to hear your stories. ---
**Author:** ![Gingiber\_Pardus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dfb087/32.png) [@Gingiber\_Pardus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gingiber_Pardus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029/5 "2012-01-22T20:59:24Z")
Yep add me to the unconventional posts please 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/toeing-the-party-line/54029/6 "2012-03-27T13:12:22Z")
So much of what I have read in this forum is very similar, which is great, it affirms some truths and facts. Having said that some of the most interesting & thought provoking threads I’ve read are really quite unique and little discussed. Your ‘outside the box’ experiences will undoubtedly provide others with great leads for further experimentation they’d never thought of. Post on Dude(tte)