# Tonight's Self Experiment: 30 mcg of TAK

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonights-self-experiment-30-mcg-of-tak/25926>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 10, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonights-self-experiment-30-mcg-of-tak/25926 "2009-02-10T04:14:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonights-self-experiment-30-mcg-of-tak/25926/21 "2009-02-13T20:47:11Z")

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The Omega approach vaguely sounds like a psychic war of attrition. Just peel off their resistances one by one. 😛

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonights-self-experiment-30-mcg-of-tak/25926/22 "2009-02-15T01:38:23Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Yes one thing to be aware of with reasonably high-dose TAK (say 30 mcg) is the anti-intimidation effect it brings. I’ve seen people low-down workwise (sitting next to TAKed me 😉) asking lots of silly questions of their bosses and throwing their opinions around as if they were heavyweights; and bosses themselves being given additional work by their own bosses (nothing malicious or anything just a lack of ‘respect’). I’ve said a few words I shouldn’t have too in trying to correct a friend’s behaviour - the effect is not too far away from that of BetaNol. But TAK seeems to be more about increasing comfort and approachability and lessening resistance as Phya mentioned (and Jasmin elaborated on). People just aren’t intimidated when high dose TAK is in the air…

funny, since to me TAK is one of the smellier notes in A314. I suppose this can cut both ways. high status people often can tend to smooth over ruffled feelings - this is like being in the presence of royalty. perhaps if you have the calming effect of TAK without a respect-inducing vibe (body language and pheromonal) then you get the effect you describe.

I think it might help to put yourself in an upsetting situation, or to discuss/write about some topic that would normally have a high degree of emotional tone. TAK detachment becomes noticeable in this kind of context, particularly.

I tried high doses of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) with TAK a while back. waitresses were very in to me, without manifesting the terrified none OD response.

I think the best posts I have read on TAK were by tacitus, way back when. He likened it to something fitting the NMDA receptor. The Valium of pheromones.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonights-self-experiment-30-mcg-of-tak/25926/23 "2009-02-15T03:28:49Z")

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Nice responses and tips. I definitely need to do more experiments.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonights-self-experiment-30-mcg-of-tak/25926/24 "2009-02-15T03:54:19Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> funny, since to me TAK is one of the smellier notes in A314. I suppose this can cut both ways. high status people often can tend to smooth over ruffled feelings - this is like being in the presence of royalty. perhaps if you have the calming effect of TAK without a respect-inducing vibe (body language and pheromonal) then you get the effect you describe.
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> I think it might help to put yourself in an upsetting situation, or to discuss/write about some topic that would normally have a high degree of emotional tone. TAK detachment becomes noticeable in this kind of context, particularly.
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> I tried high doses of Instant Jerk with TAK a while back. waitresses were very in to me, without manifesting the terrified none OD response.
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> I think the best posts I have read on TAK were by tacitus, way back when. He likened it to something fitting the NMDA receptor. The Valium of pheromones.

Interesting PQ. I suspect the amount of TAK in A314 is however miniscule compared to what I’ve been using - I’ve been using like 30 mcg of TAK. And in A314 it would be well buffered by ‘respect inducing [pheromones](https://a314.com/)’ like a bit of AndrostEnone and lots of AndrosteRone.

Thinking about the reactions more, yes there is some kind of detachment from the ‘reality of the situation’. A ‘comfortable confidence’ borne out of a complete lack of intimidation.

“perhaps if you have the calming effect of TAK without a respect-inducing vibe (body language and pheromonal) then you get the effect you describe.”  
Yes this looks to be true. With high doses of TAK one needs to have a strong respect-inducing vibe to avoid coming across as ‘too weak’. I’ve noticed when I’ve been very verbally assertive with lots of TAK on, people do back off on their own initial (TAK-induced) assertiveness when they started the conversation (often asking me to do something). The good thing for me is usually when I’m being very verbally assertive, I come across as way too intense for many people. But with high-dose TAK on, it ‘softens the edges’ a bit and just lets them see me as ‘confident, smart and wise’ rather than as an ‘intense prick’🙄.

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