# Tonyman's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 12, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726 "2016-12-12T08:12:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/82 "2017-02-01T12:57:15Z")
Wore no mones all day until 7pm, when I applied 2 sprays of a314b spray (one spray to the back of each hand). The smell was quite strong compared to the a314 oil, but I liked it. I liked it even more than the a314 oil scent. It’s so in your face. I got a huge buzz from it. This spray really lifted my mood. People talk about IS spray lifting their mood, which I have also experienced (but not the IS oil, so far). Or TAC, which also makes you feel very good. But with the a314b spray, I just didn’t care what anyone else thought. I wasn’t arrogant or mean to anyone, but my good mood was totally unflappable. Totally self contained and confident. A couple of hours later I went out to a store with my GF. I got some stuff and went to the checkout. The clerk was a young pretty Asian girl in her early 20s. She was quite responsive to my vibe, smiling and chatting warmly with me. That only changed when my GF appeared beside me, when the checkout girl suddenly started acting more reserved and formal. So I’m absolutely loving this spray. Mainly for its self effects, but also for the rapidity and obviousness of its effects on others. So much easier to perceive the effects of a spray than an oil, as others have said. Although I do also love the regular a314 oil. I wish I could smell like this 24/7. I also wish the [a314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) were available in 30ml bottles, not just the 5ml togo size. I would be buying it for sure. I’m a little concerned about buying multiple 5ml togos in case they leak in transit, as they sometimes do. I’d feel more comfortable about buying a 30ml bottle of a314. The odds of one or more out of six 5ml togo bottles leaking would be six times higher than the odds of a single 30ml bottle leaking. It would also be interesting if a314 spray came in a choice of fragrance, including Stealth, although I quite like the current fragrance. My main issue with fragrance (aside from potential sensitivity to it) is that I don’t want another mones user out there to recognize what I’m wearing. The benefit of Stealth is that I can use my own cologne (or in my case, EO mix). That said, I’m very impressed by the smell of a314 both in oil and spray formats. Putting the spray on the back of each hand obviously helped diffusion a lot too. I usually put a314 oil on my neck just below my ears. Unless I start waving my head around, I’m going to get much less diffusion than on the back of my hands. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/83 "2017-02-01T15:26:50Z")
Thanks for that report. Comment on the [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) (Version a or b?) It is hard hitting, it has a good response just about from application time to, in many cases, several hours later. For the Asian gal, yes, I’ve been in HK as well as working with Asian (ABC=American Born Chinese) in the US. To varying degrees, though usually dialed up response, is the norm with A314. I’ve used the spray and primarily the oil. IN all cases of the product usage, interest is piqued and attention is grabbed. Asian gal, mid 30’s at work, after being in my A314 wake, brought me half of her home made dumplings to share with me for lunch. Definitely the A314 effect. Subscribed! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/84 "2017-02-02T11:29:51Z")
Great to hear from you, 1Alpha. I’ve studied your own journal in some detail. Interesting to hear from you that it is the a314 (a314b spray, in my case) that does the trick with Asian girls. I’m going to have to conduct further experiments 😉 Wow the a314b spray fragrance lasts and lasts. Some of it rubbed off the back of my hand onto the cuff of the shirt I was wearing last night and I noticed that when I picked up and sniffed the same shirt this evening, I could still smell the a314 fragrance. Today’s mix: a314 oil 2 drops p96 spray 20mcg p130 spray 10mcg a314 below ears and smeared around to cover as much area as possible. p130 to left front of throat, then allowed to dry. p96 sprayed over p130 area. Maybe a bad idea? EO mix sprayed to right front of throat. No noticeable self effects, but I was in a slight rush to get things done, so difficult to say for sure. I should have tested p130 solo and will do that sometime soon. Would have done that in the morning but had a headache that lasted until afternoon (unrelated to mones), so decided not to test. Toward end of day, had a professional interaction with a woman blonde mid 30s and her 10 year old daughter. The daughter seemed mildly flustered by me, but it could also have been general shyness, as well as any childlike awe generated by a new adult authority figure (who was wearing a314). I don’t have a lot of experience with kids (or have much interest in them, frankly), so hard for me to say. Mom seemed OK but our interaction was purely professional, so again hard to say for sure. I had other professional issues on my mind, so I wasn’t putting all my energy into observing potential hits. But nothing sprang out that was really obvious. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/85 "2017-02-03T12:22:43Z")
No worries about layering the mones, but of course will require testing. I find I am running out of area to spray my mones adding to many things to my mixes and I am often layering multiple things at a time and it works for me. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/86 "2017-02-03T13:06:29Z")
8.30am 3 drops MX597 stealth oil below ears 3mcg p75 to throat EO mix to back of neck Mid 20s blonde female client, Polish origin, 6 or 7 out of 10. Sitting about 9 feet apart from each other in a professional (but not formal) situation. Good responses from her. Some flustered reactions from her but difficult to know whether they were due to questions I was asking her (about the technical topics we were discussing) or the mones. At end of session, I showed her to the door. She stood a closer to me than most people do in that same situation. I almost felt a little disconcerted by her proximity. She looked pleased and a little dreamy. Maybe we were sitting too far apart for the mones to really hit her, but when I showed her to the door, she came into my cloud properly. Since this was the first time I met her, I don’t know how much is just how she is as a person, and how much is down to mones. I wouldn’t say any super obvious hits there, but we will see. The fact that the MX597 is an oil might have something to do with it. I’d like to try the spray version of MX597 in future (don’t have it yet) to see if I get better results. Or even the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) togo with the default scent. After trying a314b spray, I’m starting to think that sprays might be the way to go for me. I suspect I might have a lower body temperature, which could negatively affect diffusion from oil products. I also think there is a lot to be said for the various a314 fragrances. Even if they are not all to my personal taste at first sniff, once they combine with the mones, their impact can be quite impressive. Plus I end up liking them in the long run, despite first impressions. Physically I have a tendency toward feeling colder than most people, so that probably means my skin temperature is lower. That could be affecting diffusion. Self effects: I was generally sharp and fluent in my discussion. I certainly noticed (but made sure not to stare at) her bare arms and legs, since she was wearing shorts and a sleeveless blouse (it’s summer here). I attribute the mental sharpness and sexual interest self effects to the p75, and the social intelligence self effects to the MX597. Without the MX597 I might have stared at her bare skin a little, which might not have gone down so well. I wasn’t as horny from the p75 as I was the first time I used it. Slightly but not much at all. 1.30pm Another 3mcg p75 to throat EO mix to back of neck Worked with an Asian female client 20s for three hours. Same girl I worked with when I first used p75. No noticeable hits beyond her usual intense respect for someone she perceives as an authority figure (ie me) due to our professional relationship. She blushed noticeably when I complimented her honestly and strongly on her technical skills, but that was the only reaction I noticed. Like the previous session with her, we were sitting side by side, working on our respective computers, so we weren’t facing each other much. Self effects: This time no horniness felt from the extra p75. Mental acuity and overall sharpness during the session, however. Quite a professional performance, definitely enhanced I feel by the p75. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/87 "2017-02-04T11:46:45Z")
Morning: TUTH 5mcg TAC 10mcg (Inspired by Jdub, although I don’t have any Hedione at the moment) Was hoping to use this to ignite something with my GF but she was very tired and slept in. I know she has had a tough week so I let her sleep. Then I realized I had a meeting with two of my clients. I thought the mix might be inappropriate so I wiped off as much of the TUTH as possible. Then applied my usual a314 2 or 2.5 drops and p96 10mcg and went to the meeting. I felt very positive and upbeat from the TAC. My clients were relaxed and jovial. Almost a bit too jovial, but I was reluctant to rein them in when they were having such a good time laughing and joking. After the meeting was over, I added another drop and a half (or maybe even 2 drops) of a314. So now I was wearing some unknown amount of TUTH, 4+ drops a314, 10mcg p96 and 10mcg TAC. That was a mistake. I met up with my GF and found I was getting quite irritable over minor issues. She even called me out on it, which is pretty rare for her. She’s normally very tolerant of my moods. Then we went for a swim at the beach together. I went in the water up to my neck, which washed off most of the remaining TUTH as well as some of the a314. As soon as we came out of the water, I’d reverted to a more chilled out state. That was a very effective and pleasant way to fix the problem. So I experienced my first self OD. Not in a hurry to repeat that. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/88 "2017-02-05T12:47:25Z")
**8am:** 3 drops a314 (1 drop below ears and 2 drops to backs of hands) 15mcg p96 to throat New EO mix (vanilla and jasmine only) layered over p96 Working with a new group of people. Many women in 50s but unfortunately no attractive ones. Some middle aged men. One 6.5/10 brunette in early 30s. One 5.5 blonde in early-mid 30s. When I arrived, one of the men (fully grey haired, early 60s) asked me if I was the boss. I said yes, for the moment. I guess that’s a respect hit. Managing the middle aged women was another story. I think I would have needed another 20 drops of a314 to control them fully. I did a good job considering, but had hoped for higher levels of compliance. **11am** Applied approx 3mcg p75 to throat. Layered 7.5mcg p96 on top. Layered EO mix on top. Let each layer dry before applying next one. Middle aged women thought I was the bees’ knees. Didn’t stop them asking lots of annoying questions but they seemed to think I was pretty cool. Men seemed to give me plenty of respect. At least my mix achieved its desired result on them. **1.30pm** Applied another 3-4mcg p75, another 7.5mcg p96 and EO mix, all layered as before. Now the middle aged women thought I was even better than before. Got more respect from everyone than before. Looks like I need more p75 than I originally thought. Took a break around 3pm. I went searching for an empty office where I could just chill for a while, to escape from\*the demands of the people I had been working with. I walked down a long corridor and turned a corner into another, shorter corridor. I heard a noise behind me. A pretty brunette girl, 18-20, had just entered the same corridor from a different direction and was about to head down a different corridor again. She would have walked through my pheromone trail. She was smiling at me very nicely, so I smiled back at her. I kept walking to my destination, which I slightly regret, although I was a little too grumpy to have switched mental modes right at that point. I chalk that up as a hit of sorts, since 18-20 year old girls I haven’t met before would never smile at me like that for no reason, prior to mones usage. I got some great hits five years ago when I was using mones for the first time, but that was because I was very heavy on the enone and was getting all my hits from cougars. Admittedly some super hot cougars whom I mostly bedded, but cougars all the same. When I finished the day’s work and went back to my car, I noticed I was super horny. I noticed every single hot looking woman on the street. They all seemed to look extra hot. Maybe they were, or maybe it was the p75 talking. **Lost sense of smell** I recently started an alternative health practice called oil pulling. This basically consists of swishing oil (coconut oil, in my case) around in your mouth for five to ten minutes, then spitting it out and rinsing your mouth. It whitens the teeth, helps to heal any gum or tooth problems, and supposedly also helps sinus issues. Since doing it I’ve been getting a post nasal flow while showering (must be the humidity). I’ve also noticed that my sense of smell has almost disappeared. I was mixing some essential oils last night and realized that I couldn’t smell the vanilla oil. For a while I wondered if the bottle had somehow leaked, but it turned out to be almost full. I accidentally mixed the oils really strong, so I had to mess around with PA until I had diluted them down to more normal levels again. I still could barely smell the too strong one, which just smelled like alcohol to me. Today I could barely smell the a314 on my hands or below my ears. Normally I’m quite aware of the a314 smell. I really enjoy the a314 smell, in fact. I wished I had applied the [a314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) instead, which I could have smelled more easily. Might try that next week. I’m hoping that the sinus cleansing effect of oil pulling will soon end its detox phase so that I can regain my sense of smell. Very difficult to mix essential oils if I can’t smell anything 😕 ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/89 "2017-02-07T22:46:56Z")
Interesting article from The Independent in the UK: [Why all men smell the same, according to master perfumer Roja Dove | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/why-all-men-smell-same-master-perfumer-roja-dove-cologne-aftershave-sweat-a7531151.html) If the link is blocked for some reason, just google “why all men smell the same”. It’s about mens’ cologne. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/90 "2017-02-09T10:55:16Z")
So the worst part of the detox phase of oil pulling is over. The current phase of detox involves anxiety. The remedy for that is a314. In fact a314 seems to be the remedy for most problems. Problems like lack of respect, lack of self respect, lack of authority, lack of suaveness, lack of chill, lack of cougars, lack of young Asian girls relaxing, smiling and chatting to you - the list goes on. So today I’m dealing with my problems with a314 🙂 Yesterday I felt a higher level of anxiety. Tried 5mcg p74 to the throat. That didn’t make much difference. But 2 drops a314 below the ears made a big difference to the anxiety levels. On another note, I’ve noticed that p75 makes it easier for me to check out women visually. I’m much more comfortable quickly scanning a woman from head to toe while wearing p75 than with anything else I’ve tried so far. Same goes for making assertive eye contact with a woman. I’m not talking creepy, aggressive or sleazy, just masculine and assertive. 3pm a314b 2 sprays to backs of hands p74 5mcg 3 sprays to neck IH2x, 2 sprays to backs of hands I discovered that my IH 2x togo is neroli scented, not Stealth. Although I love the scent (Akuto, I think) of both a314 oil and a314b spray, I don’t feel the same way about Neroli. Thankfully the Neroli does calm down after an hour or so, but it’s still way too intense and way too feminine for me. In future, I’ll stick to Stealth fragrance, except in a314. Apparently the [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) fragrance is good, though. I applied a 4th spray of p74 to my neck an hour later. I waited for it to dry, then sprayed my EO mix to cover it. I walked into the small office where my GF was. I spent only about 10 to 20 seconds in there. When I walked out, I noticed she was laughing. I asked her why she was laughing. She kept laughing and said she had no idea why she was laughing. She got up and followed me out of the room, still laughing and still wondering why she was laughing. I’d say that was possibly due to the extra spray of p74 and the additional dispersion it got from my EO mix. I’ve never seen her laugh for no reason before. Finally, there was a mixup with a recent order of mine. I just want to thank AD for their great generosity in resolving the situation to my advantage. I’m deeply impressed and grateful. Amazing customer service. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/91 "2017-02-13T11:51:52Z")
So I’ve bought some Hedione from a reputable supplier (you may recall I got burned buying some weird fake/adulterated Hedione from an eBay vendor in India). This genuine Hedione doesn’t cause depression, unlike the fake Indian one. I’ve discovered I can smell Hedione for the entire time it is on my body. In fact, I can even smell it the next day if it has rubbed off onto my clothing the previous evening. I had an internal nose operation many years ago to fix my breathing. Before that, I could breathe through my nose only about 50-60% of the time. Since that operation, I’ve had the nasal sensitivity of a bloodhound. Which probably explains why I can smell the Hedione. I don’t like using too much Hedione because I can smell it so clearly. The first time I used it, I smeared a couple of drops onto my neck. The rest of the day I spent in a suffocating cloud of Hedione. To me, it smells like a cross between a woman’s perfume with a tiny hint of eau de fly spray. Not my favorite experience, let’s say. But it could be worse. No headache, no depression etc from\*Hedione. Just mild olfactory annoyance. And if it hits the babes, that’s a good thing. I’ve learned to keep Hedione away from my face. Wrists or backs of hands seem to be the best locations for me. I did get a slight mood boost the first time I used Hedione, but didn’t notice anything special the second and third times. I must have used way too much Hedione the first time. Today I’m finding its smell on my wrists has died down much quicker. Thankfully I can only smell it if I sniff my wrist at very close range. Today 11am 2 drops a314 20mcg TAC spray to throat EO mix on top 3.30pm 2 drops Honesty Oil 4pm 2 sprays IG to throat, layered over the TAC and EO mix from earlier. EO mix on top 1 small dab Hedione to wrists 12pm client didn’t show up (mix up with meeting date) 3pm client - slim female in late 40s/early 50s. I’ve noticed that she seems to be wearing more eye makeup these days. She never used to bother with (noticeable) eye makeup before I started wearing mones. Coincidence? 4.45pm - 5.15pm client meeting Three new clients, all Asian. Female in late 20s. Female in early 40s. Male in early 30s. This was a meeting to plan a project which should take place later this week. I was concerned they were going to play hardball and bust my balls right from the start, because of their precise requirements they had previously communicated via email. In the meeting, they made their requirements clear, as I did with mine. So communication was good. The main thing was they were quite respectful of me. They looked totally awed and impressed by me, especially upon arriving and on departing. I figured that particular mix would be helpful since I knew the main client was Asian and I wanted to create an impression of dependability and expertise. a314, IG and IH were integral parts of that plan. Maybe I could have added p74, but I wasn’t aiming for fallout - just respect and trust. Anyway, I already had some TAC on, which should have made someone a little more comfortable, even if that someone was me. The TAC wasn’t really part of the plan - I just threw it on in the morning because I wanted to soften and lift my own mood this morning, not because I thought it would be helpful for the meeting this afternoon. I’m not sure if I’ll wear the same mix on Friday when I work on the actual project with two of them (40s female and early 30s male) plus another person who is a 18 year old Caucasian female. I guess I probably will, since I want to keep the good rapport going with them. Not sure how the mix is going to work with the 18 year old. She is being paid by them, not by me. I want compliance from her and for her to feel comfortable with me, but nothing else beyond that. It’s too high pressure a situation for me to go looking for other effects like DIHL etc. Maybe IH suits me. I used to use it a lot several years ago when I first got into mones. I’ve been avoiding it this time round, but I might explore it a bit more. I’m going to be working with some college students again. I remember I used to use way too much enone in the past, which must have really stressed out (or just plain ghosted) some of those people. Will try something much lighter, more social and possibly enone free this time round. Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted. I’m torn between authoritative STFU mixes (like a314 + p75), or mixes aimed at 18-20 year old girls, without going overboard on the socials and accidentally making everyone talk, giggle and chatter incessantly. Clarifying my goals would probably help haha. Getting hits from the girls without alienating the guys is one, I guess (I want the guys to feel comfortable at least). And not ghosting anyone. And not coming across as an inappropriately horny old man is another. Complex! ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/92 "2017-02-14T14:05:24Z")
Had some issues getting back to sleep after waking in the middle of the night and also at pre-dawn. When I did get up, felt very sleepy. This to me suggests adrenal exhaustion or neurotransmitter burnout. I remember something similar happening the last time I used IG. Pity because I really like the effects of IG (both self effects and effects on others). I’ll have to try it again to see if the same thing occurs. Today 11am 2 x Ammo stealth to throat EO mix on top Went to barber. Everything went fine. Nothing abnormal to report. 1pm 1 x Ammo stealth to throat EO MIX on top Went to a shop. Served by woman early 30s. I bought a product that came in two similar colors - say cool white and warm white. I was asking her about the differences between the two. I eventually settled on the cool white. She wrote out a receipt with my business name and the product details as cool white. Then I drove my car around the back of the store and she brought it out to my car. We loaded it in. She went back inside. I was about to drive off when I noticed she had given me the wrong product. So I went back and we sorted it out. Not sure if this was a hit, or a miscommunication or just a case of absent mindedness on her part. But she did seem slightly flustered when I came in. I find that with Ammo, I always feel quite horny. This is not great because it affects my behavior with women. I’ll need to explore Ammo further but I’ve noticed this effect on me previously. It’s hard to get good rapport with women if all you can think about is sex because they can sense it. Maybe something like p96 or p74 or p130 or TAC would help here. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/93 "2017-02-17T21:53:15Z")
8.30am 2 drops a314 4 drops TAC oil to back of neck and left front of throat. 2 drops Honesty oil to backs of hands 1 drop Hedione smeared across both wrists 2 sprays IG to right front of throat EO Mix sprayed over IG on throat, trying to avoid TAC oil Worked with Asian clients and 18 year old Caucasian girl. Only 30s male and female clients this time - no 20s client. 30s female Asian client was the one whom I previously thought was in her 40s. Turns out she’s into fasting, which is probably what makes her look older. Got the same mad respect hits from Asian clients throughout whole day from 9am to 6pm. They spoke to me with their heads slightly lower than normal, especially the woman, but even sometimes the guy. They made me feel like I was some kind of guru or spiritual leader. And I’m most definitely not, of course. Got quite a lot of incidental kino from the 18 year old girl when working close to her. I would have to show her small, detailed stuff on a regular basis and she would often make contact with her arm or shoulder against mine when I did so. Not sure whether this kino was accidental or not. Although it was a lot more kino than I usual get in similar situations with similar girls. It could have been that she was just a more tactile person than other girls. However the 30s Asian woman made zero physical contact in the same situations. Anyway I was enjoying it, regardless of the reason. Added another spray of IG around 1.30pm. Added another small dab of Hedione mid afternoon. Added another 2 drops Honesty Oil around 4pm. The extra Honesty Oil seemed to hit the male client hard. My partner was complimenting the Asian female 30s client on the products her company sells. Big time compliments. Then the Asian 30s guy butts in and says that the products from a much, much larger competitor are superior in their detailing. Better than their own products in the details. He said this not once but twice. I looked at the female client and she had this look on her face like she had to keep smiling but she couldn’t understand why he was putting down their own products. Even my partner tried to play down his comments. I’ve had trust hits from IH from women in the past, but this was the biggest honesty hit I’ve had from anyone. Couldn’t believe this guy was putting down his own company’s products as much as he did. Funny thing is that his own company’s products are still quite good. I bet his female colleague had a few choice words to say to him after they left. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/94 "2017-02-20T10:10:35Z")
Wow nice combo and very interesting choice. I am curious how the TAC interacted with everything, did it make the vibe really light and kind of giddy at all? I am also interested in hearing if you have the scented or stealth version of the A314 oil and how the TAC and IH oil lasted in comparison to the A314 oil? How well do you think the EO mix also worked with everything? Sorry for all the questions I am just trying to learn from your mix as I am taking notes to maybe make some of mine better as I use an EO mix to sometimes with my pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/95 "2017-02-20T10:58:19Z")
Hey Justintime, I didn’t notice a particularly light or giddy vibe from the TAC. I’ve usually found it gives me a mood boost, but everyone was there to work, so the mood was generally serious. I didn’t notice any particular self effects from the TAC oil. The 18 year old girl might have been acting kind of light, because that’s how most 18 year old girls generally are, but everyone else was fairly focused because a lot was at stake. The TAC was an accidental inclusion from the previous time I met up with these clients. Since things worked well with them the previous time, I thought I had better keep the TAC in the mix. I have both the scented and the stealth versions of a314, but I prefer the scented version, despite my initial misgivings. You were the one who made some suggestions about those misgivings, so thanks to you I’m good with a314 scented, even around my face. The reasons I prefer the scented a314 are: (1) It smells great to me (2) it smells great to my GF and presumably, to other people (3) It helps me to know if I’ve accidentally rubbed off the oil from an application point, because I can smell the scent on my fingers. That’s not possible with the Stealth oil. I also suspect that the scented oil still has better diffusion than the Stealth version, but that’s an unconfirmed emotional prejudice, not a proven fact. My EO mix is OK. It’s just equal parts of Vanilla and Jasmine in PA. I like the smell. Sillage is OK but not great. Longevity is poor, but I carry around a 5ml glass bottle sprayer to refresh it from time to time. Unfortunately the EOs that would boost longevity further, like Vetiver and Oakmoss, are not so good for spraying directly over mones. I’d like to find a base note EO with fixative effects that’s mone-compatible. Vanilla is meant to work as a fixative, actually. I’ve recently learned that the safest EOs to use over mones are ones made from flowers, because floral EOs contain fewer anti-mone substances than EOs made from stems, leaves, bark or wood. Difficult to say about the Honesty Oil longevity because I refreshed it. However the male client’s embarrassingly honest comments seem to suggest that the morning Honesty Oil was still working along with the additional Honesty Oil applied later. Don’t know about the TAC oil longevity. Being Stealth it’s even harder to know. Thanks for your questions. Always happy to answer them. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/96 "2017-02-20T11:18:33Z")
**Yesterday:** 3 drops a314 below ears 4 drops p96 oil to neck 1 drop Hedione to wrists Training a group of people that included a lot of middle aged women. I’ve worked with them before. Previously I’d used p75 but I left it out this time and felt better self effects - meaning I was more patient with everyone. The extra drop of a314 helped with getting compliance from the group as well as keeping me calm. I avoided getting irritated or testy and managed the group quite well this time. I added another three drops p96 oil at 3pm which was probably unnecessary but I just wanted to ensure an easy ending to the day. That seemed to work well. I also topped up the Hedione by adding one drop smeared across the backs of both hands. **Today:** 2 sprays a314b to backs of hands 2-3mcg p75 to throat EO mix on top Went to late 20s blonde female chiropractor today. Got both good respect and genuine warmth from her. Previously I’d worn a314 oil and p96 spray. Substituting the p75 seemed to improve things. Also got further improved respect, admiration and affection from my GF. I’ve realized that most of my hits have been with Asians. Might be because I’ve been avoiding enone heavy mixes after the mistakes of a few years ago and the cougar-attracting, younger girl-repelling results of enone buildup in my hair. I’m happy about the hits with Asians, but would like to see hits on a wider range of people. So the previous day’s mix benefited from having p75 removed, but today’s mix benefited from replacing p96 with p75 for a firmer, more masculine vibe. Of course a314b spray is not quite as intense as a314 oil, so maybe that is a factor in today’s mix. Another factor is the age differences of the various people who were exposed to these two mixes. It also seems like I can go a bit higher on a314 than I previously thought. Three drops seem fine for me now. **Stealth and EOs:** One of the reasons I like using Stealth mones and EOs, aside from chemical intolerance/sensitivity issues, is that I don’t want some random smirking dude coming up to me and saying, “So how’s the a314/ammo/mx297 working out for you?” because he recognizes the distinctive smell of an Androtics fragrance. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 10:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/97 "2017-02-22T10:53:18Z")
Since three days ago, I have used IG in my mixes two days in a row. My sleep quality has been worsening. Last night I couldn’t fall asleep until 3am or later, which meant I had less than four hours? sleep. I noticed when I first started using IG alone that it affected my sleep quality. Something in IG must somehow affect my cortisol levels, which in turn affects my sleep. I was a little stressed about work, but not to the level that would affect my sleep that much. Maybe the combination of IG plus stress was too much. I don’t have this problem with any other mones. A314 actually improves my sleep. In fact, I applied some a314 at 3am in a desperate attempt to fall asleep. I put it on my upper lip and around my nose. I then discovered that a314 burns when applied here, although it is fine below and beside the ears. It’s kind of a bummer because I quite like IG. I’ll just have to make sure I don’t use it more than one day at a time. The first day of use it was fine, but the second day seemed to build up and cause issues with sleep. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/98 "2017-02-23T13:18:36Z")
I blamed my previous insomnia a little unfairly on IG the other night. In retrospect, I’d say 75% of the insomnia was caused by subconscious stress related to a work issue with one of my clients. The other 25% was related to IG. These percentages are obviously very approximate. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/99 "2017-02-24T11:06:49Z")
Yesterday: [A314 Stealth](https://a314.com/product/a314-stealth/) oil 2.5 drops below ears 20mcg p96 stealth spray Since I rashly bought two entire bottles of a314 in Stealth, I thought I better start using one of them, even though I prefer the normal scented a314 oil. Turned out not so bad. Although I did miss the regular a314 scent a little, I still got great self effects and great effects on others from\*the Stealth a314 oil. I’m realizing that the fallout effects of a314 and p96 are working big time on my girlfriend. Obviously she is already a reasonably big fan of mine, but things had been getting a little stale in recent months. Since starting mones she seems to have remembered why she is with me. Although I do have most of the new Stealth oils, and I do appreciate they work differently (slower but harder hitting), I am leaning toward purchasing sprays in future, because they can be layered on the skin. This means fewer problems with running out of real estate on the body when using several mones. The other reason for me preferring sprays is that I have a low body temp, so I get better diffusion from sprays. Today: Testing p109 3pm p109 5mcg I spray to throat Self effects: None initially. After 30 mins or so, smelled the faint phero scent briefly. This had a slightly uplifting effect on me. Was working alone on computer. When girlfriend came into room, was a little testy with her, when previously (before the p109) I had been chilled and playful with her. 4pm Second spray to throat Started feeling less irritable, so decided to try another spray. Now wearing 10mcg p109. Decided to take a one day vacation tomorrow with girlfriend. We are both enthusiastic about the idea. Destination still to be decided. The idea formed in my head when I was in another room, then she mentioned it to me before I had said anything. I don’t know if p109 is a vacation promoting phero. Maybe a major hotel chain could sponsor it, if it is. 5pm Third spray to throat. Was feeling upbeat, so decided to try a third spray. Immediately after had a piercing but fleeting headache just above one of my eyes. Luckily it was very short lived. Might have been a coincidence or might not. Tightness in left temple remained for several mins later, then gradually went away. I didn’t wear any cover scent over the p109, of course. Wanted to, but resisted the temptation. Still got tightness in temples at 7pm. And at 10pm. Very slight, but there. ---
**Author:** ![tonyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@tonyman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tonyman)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/100 "2017-03-01T11:06:29Z")
7am A314 2 drops p74 15mcg to throat 1 drop Hedione on wrists Honesty oil on backs of hands, 2 drops total Shine oil on backs of hands, 2 drops total EO mix to throat 2pm p74 15mcg to throat 1 drop Honesty oil 1 drop Shine oil 4pm Reasonable hits from males and females in late teens/early 20s. One brunette blushed deeply when I spoke with her briefly. Not a redhead or a blonde with pale skin, yet still a noticeable blush. Another brunette seemed slightly mesmerized. One male was impressed like crazy by me. To the point where his smiling was freaking me out a bit. One tall young redhead 7/10 was very attentive but no noticeable blushing from her. First session working with these people, so difficult to be sure. Will see what happens over time. Noticed that when refreshing the p74 on throat at 2pm that EO mix was brought back to life again. Might spray EOs first then mones second in future, instead\*of the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726/101 "2017-03-03T16:10:01Z")
Great mix and thank you for testing! That is a similar setup as I would use for work. What I tend to do is use A314/TUTH for my main setup and steer very heavy on the social side to make my driving setup more useful. I am 37 and it works very well for me. I don’t know your age, but this mix sounds like something I would wear for myself pretty much and I am thinking this is how you had such good luck with the late teen/early 20’s woman so good work. A very typical work mix for me is 2 drops A314/1 spray TUTH and then I use 5-10MCG [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)/5MCG B-NOL/IShine 2 sprays/EO Hedione mix. I have an EO mix with Hedione I use that I made with EO also that is very similar to what you are doing. I find it works very well for 26+ age with no ghosting under 26 and above 30 it hits hard. So keep the reports coming man! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tonymans-journal/66726.md?page=6)