# Too "Quick" in the sack? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [October 10, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160 "2008-10-10T21:52:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/21 "2008-10-15T15:52:04Z")
Is there a premature ejaculation game for the Wii? ---
**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/22 "2008-10-16T21:18:37Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > To be honest the reason I bought 5-htp is because I suspect I may have SAD. I get a little apathetic and loose motivation when the nights start getting darker earlier and also when I’m under flurorecent lights for long periods. These things seem to drain me of energy and I’d read somewhere that 5-htp may help so I thought why not give it a go because there seems to be no side effects from what I’ve read. So far I’ve only been taking them for a week and I’ve noticed my mood is ever so slightly brighter but that could be coincidence. > > I hadn’t heard that I should avoid alcohol, is that true? 5-htp is naturally occuring in turkey and cheese and people regulary eat these things with alcohol. > > I’m a little worried now because I thought this 5-htp was perfectly safe but now I really don’t want to turn into someone with premature ejeculation (something I read 5-htp caused the opposite off) and an intolerance to alcohol. i am sorry, 5-htp is not a SSRI and so should not have any reactions with alcohol. this is what i get when i try to do research with a poker window popping up every 30 seconds ☹ it is completely safe, as far as i know. did you order it online or OTC ? ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/23 "2008-10-18T14:10:43Z")
> [@river](#): > > Have you found any pheros that actually make your performance last longer? > > I have my suspicions on one in particular that seems to be pretty consistent with its effects on hubby’s performance but I want to get a guy’s take on this before I blurt it out and sound like a total nutjob:o > > Some things can only be asked with the supposed anonymity of the internet 🙄 > [@shubhodeep](#): > > if you really like jackhammers Nope. Not really 🙂 > [@Warren](#): > > You are talking about a learnable skill As would be my hubby’s case (a bit of ignorant selfishness)…but I’ve noticed a change in his “endurance” lately. > [@wilks](#): > > Since going on Turn Up The Heat and Instant Honesty, I have had a tough time keeping things reasonably short. After an hour, I get a bit frustrated. Not sure if it’s the pheros, my head, or the new girls, but you’re welcome to try it. If I keep going into work with a sore back, people are going to start questioning… 🙂 LOL! I’m glad to know that I wasn’t just imagining things. It seemed that whenever I sprayed TUTH onto his pillow (he doesn’t know about the pheros) he was more intense and “focused” but when I also spray MEO-EST, he lasts longer and asks questions like if I’m enjoying it or does that feel good, etc. The TUTH really gets me going, the MEO-EST seems to make him want to please more. So, yeah, I think it’s a learned behavior as far as hubby is concerned. Ha! You’d think that after 11 years of marriage, that we’d have this stuff figured out by now!:o ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/24 "2008-10-20T04:15:37Z")
The stuff in turkey is tryptophane. The body converts tryptophane to 5-HTP and 5-HTP to serotonin. 5-HTP is a serotonon precursor. It raises serotonon levels. If you take too much you can get “serotonon syndrome” which is what happens when you od on serotonin. It is not generally dangerous. You just feel so miserable you wish you were dead for a couple of hours and then you are okay. But if you can od on it, it is obvious that 5-HTP is quite effective at raising serotonin levels. That doesn’t necessarily mean that higher serotonon levels is what you want. Theoretically, SSRIs like prozac also raise serotonon levels, but in actually it may be something else entirely. When 5-HTP first became available over-the-counter there were alarming stories – often from respected experts – that it might result in all kinds of dangers including sudden death. These dangers seem to have never manifested. Ward Dean believes that 5-HTP can be much more effective against depression when taken with very small amounts of St. John’s Wort. I find 5-HTP works better on an empty stomach. I had a co-worker who found 5HTP relieved her migranes. I’ve never thought much about 5-HTP and alcohol, but it couldn’t be too dangerous or I would have killed myself already. > [@wilks](#): > > Since going on Turn Up The Heat and Instant Honesty, I have had a tough time keeping things reasonably short. After an hour, I get a bit frustrated. Not sure if it’s the pheros, my head, or the new girls, but you’re welcome to try it. > > If I keep going into work with a sore back, people are going to start questioning… I have noticed a couple of times recently that when I add TUTH to a mix that already includes IH and MEO-EST, that I do last even longer than I want to. Could be coincidence, but you’re making me wonder… When I spoke of learned behavior I was talking about learning to appropriately contract the PCG muscle (among other things) to delay ejaculation. The theory is that a man can have an orgasm without ejaculating. And thereby without losing his erection. I don’t know that “ignorant selfishness” is the phrase that applies. Most men (including most doctors and psychotherapists) don’t have a clue that this is possible. Part of the technique involves mentally directing your chi energy, so whether it works or not, Western scientists don’t want to hear about it. It took me two years of practising every day to get this skill down. And even after you’ve got it, it takes a lot of concentration, motivation and will power. It has nothing to do with calculating baseball batting averages. It is possible, and it does work. ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/25 "2008-10-20T14:36:38Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I have noticed a couple of times recently that when I add Turn Up The Heat to a mix that already includes Instant Honesty and MEO-EST, that I do last even longer than I want to. Could be coincidence, but you’re making me wonder… Me too…I guess I’ll have to keep experimenting!😃 > [@Warren](#): > > I don’t know that “ignorant selfishness” is the phrase that applies. I guess I was just talking about the whole thing in general. He’s just now seeming to care whether or not I’m getting anything out of it 😮 OR maybe I’m just being more demanding lately! Sorry…TMI, for sure!!!:o ---
**Author:** ![lonlynampaguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@lonlynampaguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lonlynampaguy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/26 "2008-10-20T15:06:38Z")
Well I for one am enjoying this post getting back on topic. I have a BIG problem with quickness and would love to hear others input on all this. Glad I ordered a bottle of TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![MeDieViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/medievil/32/1650_2.png) [@MeDieViL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MeDieViL)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/27 "2008-10-21T09:31:11Z")
i have the same problem, but i managed to solve it but it may not be the best way to do it ---
**Author:** ![lonlynampaguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@lonlynampaguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lonlynampaguy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/28 "2008-10-21T14:20:43Z")
Well what did you do?? I have had this problem for years and am VERY tired of it… ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/29 "2008-10-21T14:45:27Z")
> [@MeDieViL](#): > > i have the same problem, but i managed to solve it but it may not be the best way to do it Ok…you can’t just leave us hanging like that…so how did you solve it, or is it a secret???😃 ---
**Author:** ![MeDieViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/medievil/32/1650_2.png) [@MeDieViL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MeDieViL)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/30 "2008-10-21T15:12:37Z")
> [@lonlynampaguy](#): > > Well what did you do?? I have had this problem for years and am VERY tired of it… well i am very open in using meds and drugs wich probebly most of you arent, solving the problem is easy, just take an opiate, amphetamine, SSRI, tramadol or whatever, but i know a load about drugs and i would understand most of you are against taking meds or so, i dont know but i’m into the “better living trough chemicals” thing those things are often considered to be “unhealthy” but i find that term to be subjective, if something doesnt cause any disease or make you live shorter why would i call it unhealthy, therefor i enhance my life with many “chemicals” if you want to know more just pm me for my MSN or something, i’ve been studieng all this stuff for a long time now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/31 "2008-10-21T15:39:08Z")
> [@MeDieViL](#): > > just take an opiate, amphetamine, SSRI, tramadol or whatever Well, I don’t think this would work for hubby who’s had a drinking problem in the past (an still does, to some degree) so I think adding another potentially addictive substance would be the wisest choice. Hey, each to his own, I guess! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/32 "2008-10-21T15:48:28Z")
This thread begs the question, that when I take a mild muscle relaxant, I play games much better, but then I haven’t taken one and tried to make whoopee, ---
**Author:** ![MeDieViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/medievil/32/1650_2.png) [@MeDieViL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MeDieViL)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/33 "2008-10-21T15:58:04Z")
> [@river](#): > > Well, I don’t think this would work for hubby who’s had a drinking problem in the past (an still does, to some degree) so I think adding another potentially addictive substance would be the wisest choice. > > Hey, each to his own, I guess! then taking an SSRI wich arent addicting as needed may be the best choice no natural treatment of any of that kind would work ---
**Author:** ![MeDieViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/medievil/32/1650_2.png) [@MeDieViL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MeDieViL)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/34 "2008-10-21T17:36:11Z")
also for everyone with this problem, do you also suffer from other things like OCD, anxiety etc?? ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/35 "2008-10-21T18:33:03Z")
> [@woofie2](#): > > This thread begs the question, that when I take a mild muscle relaxant, I play games much better, but then I haven’t taken one and tried to make whoopee, For Gosh sakes Man! For the sake of science…get a’testing!!!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/36 "2008-10-21T19:08:32Z")
> [@river](#): > > For Gosh sakes Man! For the sake of science…get a’testing!!!😃 I fell asleep soon enough after, why should I have to worry about falling asleep during… 😃 Actually it was a few years ago I was on muscle relaxants, not something I would want to do again. talk about feeling wiped out. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/37 "2008-10-22T17:00:12Z")
I’m wearing [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) so probs shouldn’t say this but I’m considering buying a fleshlight for the sole purpose of making me last longer/ better in bed. Do you think it would work? I’m really prepared to put in the extra work if it makes me a better lover. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/38 "2008-10-22T17:11:30Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > I’m wearing Instant Honesty so probs shouldn’t say this but I’m considering buying a fleshlight for the sole purpose of making me last longer/ better in bed. Do you think it would work? I’m really prepared to put in the extra work if it makes me a better lover. 🙂 Ok…call me naive, but I had to google fleshlight…😮 :o 😮 So how would that help you? More practice??? Gosh, that’d be a LOT of extra “work” on your part!😃 🙄 Honestly, though, as a woman I can appreciate your enthusiasm and dedication to becoming a better lover, which is more than I can say for some! XOXOXO ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/39 "2008-10-22T17:29:18Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > **I’m wearing Instant Honesty so probs shouldn’t say this..** 🙂 Lol, I wonder how many times that’s been said. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160/40 "2008-10-22T19:39:16Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > Lol, I wonder how many times that’s been said. 😛 haha I know. > [@](#): > > Ok…call me naive, but I had to google fleshlight…😮 :o 😮 > > So how would that help you? More practice??? Gosh, that’d be a LOT of extra “work” on your part!😃 🙄 > > Honestly, though, as a woman I can appreciate your enthusiasm and dedication to becoming a better lover, which is more than I can say for some! XOXOXO haha it is only recently I found out about them as well. I wish I’d known about them a few years ago when I REALLY needed one lol :o . I don’t know if it would make me any better but apparantly reading reviews there suposed to feel very close to the real thing so I guess it would improve technique and the ability to control how long you last. For sure it would be a LOT of extra work but It’s honestly not just self indulgence. 🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-quick-in-the-sack/21160.md?page=3)