# Too strong? One spray each of IO, IFM, IS and Ammo feels overpowering

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 7, 2007, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966 "2007-04-07T07:38:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/21 "2007-05-07T16:08:02Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> She might be sensitive, which also means she might be able to detect the pheros!!!  
> I’d encourage people on the forum to ask a friend or something and post what they say regarding the fragrances.

yeah well i have friends that think any scent is too strong, and friends that think you cant wear enough of it. its all relative.

in cars everything is too strong. i put people to sleep in cars 😃

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/22 "2007-05-07T16:08:49Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> …  
> I’m thinking that if I plan to do any serious mixing, I may order up only To Go sized products and request “unscented” or at most the light neroli. And possibly ask for “extra strength” in regards to the pheromone content as the scent doesn’t differ in strength when you do that. I would then use a cologne strength product like Ammo as a final cover, or my own cologne (after drydown). …

I think the “unscented” option is limited to the full size bottles. I’ve used your idea of getting extra strength products so fewer sprays are required and so less total scent applied.

Now I have quite a stock of full-size bottles so it may be a while before I can purchase the unscented versions. What I have is working for me though.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/23 "2007-05-07T16:16:40Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> I think the “unscented” option is limited to the full size bottles. I’ve used your idea of getting extra strength products so fewer sprays are required and so less total scent applied.
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> Now I have quite a stock of full-size bottles so it may be a while before I can purchase the unscented versions. What I have is working for me though.

there is the trading post , too , GWTW.  
🙂  
lucky for me neroli is a different scent so adding it to any other thing i wear still makes me smell different which has worked in my favor.

neroli on a man for me is the equivelent of men wearing mandarin/bergamot scents which are prevalent in alot of colognes,so i never think its strong.

what works the best for you so far?

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/24 "2007-05-07T17:16:48Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> I think the “unscented” option is limited to the full size bottles. I’ve used your idea of getting extra strength products so fewer sprays are required and so less total scent applied.

i was thinking of doing that too lol.

the things we do for unscented…sigh…🙄

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/25 "2007-05-07T17:33:20Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> there is the trading post , too , GWTW.  
> 🙂  
> lucky for me neroli is a different scent so adding it to any other thing i wear still makes me smell different which has worked in my favor.
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> neroli on a man for me is the equivelent of men wearing mandarin/bergamot scents which are prevalent in alot of colognes,so i never think its strong.
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> what works the best for you so far?

I’ve thought of the trading post. Trading takes more time and energy though, and the products I have are working. I may just buy some more unscented bottles of my favorites for times I don’t want neroli.

Actually I like the neroli, but I have a cologne hobby too. The neroli doesn’t conflict too badly with most of them so usually I apply both. My other colognes “spice” things up for me, and if anyone asks what I’m wearing I just tell them it’s a custom blend.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/26 "2007-05-07T23:31:17Z")

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Of all the Androtics products the ONLY one to ever get a comment from anyone in regards to scent was Ammunition, and it was a positive comment.

Everything else, including a314 and the herbal scent IFM seem to pass unnoticed. I’ve only tried TUTH once “in public” and so far no comments on that, but it was only one trial.

I usually apply everything about an hour before expecting to encounter anyone.

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/27 "2007-05-08T00:18:54Z")

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My uncle said I smelt amazing when all I had was 1 spray (to-go) of instant shine hah!

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**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/28 "2007-05-08T22:27:09Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> yeah well i have friends that think any scent is too strong, and friends that think you cant wear enough of it. its all relative.
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> in cars everything is too strong. i put people to sleep in cars 😃

Ditto that one. I did a mix this weekend. A314, IS, IO, IH, and Ammo. One application of each. My brother is waiting for me in the car. As soon as I get in he says “WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WEAR THAT COLOGNE SHIT FOR!?”

“To agitate you with it’s influence.” I told him most sheepishly. He just thinks it’s some cheap cologne. He thought nothing of it, and he cranked some tunes and rolled the windows down and we drove off.

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/29 "2007-05-09T05:50:36Z")

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Too funny.

Older or younger bro?

Sounds your chemcal influence did _exert_ itself over him. His response to your presence sounds _awfully_ “try-hard to out-alpha”. Dontcha think?

Siblng rivalry, _enhanced_!

> [@Pheraoh](#):
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> Ditto that one. I did a mix this weekend. A314, IS, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, and Ammo. One application of each. My brother is waiting for me in the car. As soon as I get in he says “WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WEAR THAT COLOGNE SHIT FOR!?”
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> “To agitate you with it’s influence.” I told him most sheepishly. He just thinks it’s some cheap cologne. He thought nothing of it, and he cranked some tunes and rolled the windows down and we drove off.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/30 "2007-05-31T15:10:55Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> Too funny.
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> Older or younger bro?
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> Sounds your chemcal influence did _exert_ itself over him. His response to your presence sounds _awfully_ “try-hard to out-alpha”. Dontcha think?
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> Siblng rivalry, _enhanced_!

I am SOOOOO glad you said this!!!

I was meaning to start a thread about this very topic,and I think it answers a common question people have even when they have been using for a long time…

Many times I will wear a mix that has proven itself to be fun and happy, and eventually someone will come around that exaggerates its opposite and then leave _no coincidence_ that pheros were involved.

even they will say “wth did i say _that_ for?”

I definately forget that you will meet people challenged by even the softest,most flirtaciously innocent signiture because it threatens the pecking order.

yes, i have an issue with the current “alpha” definitions as well, because i have noticed that even TAH or alpha-nol _if taking too much attention away from the strongest personality in the room_ will illicit a negative alpha response by both men and women.

I have experimented and purposely set out to be the least “alpha” presence available, only to learn that dominant phero signitures for women **do not** equate to the postitive qualities we are using pheromones to achieve.  
_sometimes_ they are, but they do not **equate** to it.

this is where feeling out the atmosphere and the respective intentions means your choice in mixes may be very different from what you would have left the house wearing…

unless of course you are so aligned and resonate so entirely with a particular mix that you are the most shiny wearing it in _every_ situation.

🙂

i personally will have to-go’s in double strength of most of the stuff i have in bigger bottles in regular strength so that i can manipulate my own signiture spontaneously.  
yes, i carry a small lab with me 😃

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/too-strong-one-spray-each-of-io-ifm-is-and-ammo-feels-overpowering/2966/31 "2007-05-31T15:33:35Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Its just my theory but I think the pheromones may be sort of waking up a part of the brain we dont use all that often and its kinda like you brain saying “what the hell is that” Then you get used to processing it and the weird dizzieness stops.

V interesting concept Tisha. Have you noticed you start noticing how other people smell more since starting to use pheromones?

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