# Top 3 putatives-2007 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 6, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810 "2007-09-06T06:41:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/1 "2007-09-06T06:41:53Z")
Which putatives are worthy of having a product built around them? Explain why. EST is no putative. Wish there were no patent so Androtics could do something with this. MEO-EST has strong Cray-ola powers but needs to be tamed. P86 may be the gateway to sensuality. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/2 "2007-09-06T20:27:22Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Which putatives are worthy of having a product built around them? Explain why. > > EST is no putative. Wish there were no patent so Androtics could do something with this. > MEO-EST has strong Cray-ola powers but needs to be tamed. > P86 may be the gateway to sensuality. Where is P96? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/3 "2007-09-07T03:24:22Z")
How do you change the poll? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/4 "2007-09-07T06:36:23Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > How do you change the poll? Just hopped in an added 96. Maddy, you don’t see the “Edit Poll” link at the top right? (Might be 'cause I’m an admin 😕) OK! And: I’m really jazzed you posted this poll, Tater! I’ve had this same question itching in the back of my brain for monthsssss. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/5 "2007-09-07T06:41:09Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Which putatives are worthy of having a product built around them? Explain why. > > EST is no putative. Wish there were no patent so Androtics could do something with this. > MEO-EST has strong Cray-ola powers but needs to be tamed. > P86 may be the gateway to sensuality. Speaking of EST being no putative, Have you found any EST-replacements in your putative research journey yet? Estratetraenol has a great calming effect. However, the mad scientist in me is still trying to replicate the effect without a patented molecule (hey man, there’s a lot of mommies out there who would go CRAZY for pheromonal calm-kid juice!!) I’ve been using a [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)-anol mix to calm and sedate, but I’m stumped as to which other juices and notes I should stick in there. Whatcha think? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/6 "2007-09-08T04:51:04Z")
My Top 3 were: P74: Consistently powerful social results for me (when paired with things like Alpha-Nol and MX105/A314). Also P74 has added bonuses like ‘cool guy’ vibe, empathy, making everyone get along famously in groups, etc. P93: Possible replacement for [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for me - but needs to be used with more social pheromones like TAA/P74/Alpha-Nol for example. Friendly effects from males as a bonus. I feel quite driven on it as well. P79: A useful way to push the envelope with girls in the middle of dates without the hassles of bringing in Androstenone. Main problem is annoying side effect of creating discussions - everyone wanting to make their points. Nice intensification effects of mixes as a bonus. Another 4 putatives that I’ve tried that have potential: P83: Possible ‘sensual’ effects with the potential for something even more than just ‘sensual’ effects (see steveo’s and tacitus’ old posts). An interesting addition to a mix though still not very well understood like most of the putatives. P75: Just a few personal exepriences seem to confirm that P75 may give one many of the ‘animalistic sex’ effects of Androstenone in intimate encounters minus most of the hassles Androstenone brings along with it with the other party. P101: Social product but main problem is its smell - it needs to be covered all the time. Also up against many other social products so may not be needed as we already have top notch social pheromones like Alpha-Nol, Beta-Nol and P74. P103: Another social product. From trying it only a few times and reading about it, P103 seems to fill one with energy and which then results in a crash after a while. Some kind of stimulant effect I guess… - I have P90 in a 12.5 mcg ToGo bottle which I have yet to try. Heard a few good things about that one. -Visionary ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/7 "2007-09-08T18:51:59Z")
Jasmin im not sure about [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) as a calming agent. i can see children becoming argumentative with it. Trying to think about something EST-like. TAK seems to have some attributes but not the whole “everythings fine” feeling. Believe it or not, TAL seems similar at 40mcg to EST at 1mcg. P80 at 10-15 mcg has a very similar “its all okay” vibe going on but its different, like when the voices inside my head tell me theyve taken care of everything. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/top-3-putatives-2007/189810/8 "2007-09-09T01:59:35Z")
Here is the bestselling putatives list on the Androticsdirect website as of this moment: **1.** [Pheromone P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) **2.** [Pheromone P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) **3.** [Putative 83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) **4.** [Putative 93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) **5.** [Putative 75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) **6.** [Putative 96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) **7.** [Putative 90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) It seems interesting that [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) is on this list just after the ‘big four’: P79, P74, P83 and P93. I wonder who is buying the P75 and what they are their findings/their uses for it - there is little on P75 on the forum… -Visionary