# Total noobie to pheromones!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [January 25, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906 "2011-01-25T23:31:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/1 "2011-01-25T23:31:09Z")

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Hi,  
I’m married for a while and as time goes on (& we age!) “things” just don’t have that same “zest” to them as they used to. I’m a male ending my fourth decade soon and a.m anxious to “spark” & fire up that romance on a consistant basis.  
Please let me know any good suggestions.  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/2 "2011-01-26T02:02:02Z")

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Hi Ocean County, welcome to the forums. 🙂  
I think Turn Up The Heat is the product you’re looking for. There are lots of men who come here hoping to spice up the marriage. TUTH is mainly for the bedroom, but there are also other products like Instant Shine and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) that you might be interested in. Instant Shine is the mood-booster and will make you seem more youthful and vibrant. Meanwhile Instant Honesty promotes intimacy and depth in conversation. A few searches on the forum should provide you with everything you need to know - and if you have questions, don’t hesitate to ask! 🙂 Welcome aboard, and I hope to hear your success story soon.

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/3 "2011-01-26T02:24:15Z")

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> [@Spinach](#):
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> Hi Ocean County, welcome to the forums. 🙂  
> I think Turn Up The Heat is the product you’re looking for. There are lots of men who come here hoping to spice up the marriage. TUTH is mainly for the bedroom, but there are also other products like Instant Shine and Instant Honesty that you might be interested in. Instant Shine is the mood-booster and will make you seem more youthful and vibrant. Meanwhile Instant Honesty promotes intimacy and depth in conversation. A few searches on the forum should provide you with everything you need to know - and if you have questions, don’t hesitate to ask! 🙂 Welcome aboard, and I hope to hear your success story soon.

Thanks. you’re right in line with Steve who recommended the same just in reverse order, not to come on too strong at first. I appreciate your input & look forward to starting with IS & IH & then TUTH like you recommend. Good luck with your mones too.

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**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/4 "2011-01-26T02:48:18Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> Thanks. you’re right in line with Steve who recommended the same just in reverse order, not to come on too strong at first. I appreciate your input & look forward to starting with IS & IH & then TUTH like you recommend. Good luck with your mones too.

Thanks, I’m happy to help! And yes, definitely go with Steve’s suggestions, as he’s the master of all. 😃

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/5 "2011-01-27T01:59:39Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk Ocean!

Spinach did a good job in her suggestions to you. In addition, you already spoke to our [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) expert Steve so you are good to go.

In order for me to issue your gift certificate I need more information from you though.

Please let us know your personality and how you got to know about this forum?

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/6 "2011-01-27T03:06:57Z")

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I updated my profile (pretty boring sounding, I’m sure, compared to other single “swingers” out there). I’m really only trying out mones to spice up my relationship with my wife who truely deserves to feel always secure, “fulfilled” & turned on. It’s do to my love for her & for my children’s sake that I wish to have a perfectly harmonious house with which my precious children can grow up in and be happy & secure human beings.  
Truthfully I lost track of which blog I was reading that mentioned your wonderful & friendly sight!

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**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/7 "2011-01-27T07:15:39Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> Truthfully I lost track of which blog I was reading that mentioned your wonderful & friendly sight!

That’s okay, as long as you’re here now! 😃  
Welcome aboard.

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 11:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/8 "2011-01-27T11:49:56Z")

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> [@Spinach](#):
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> Thanks, I’m happy to help! And yes, definitely go with Steve’s suggestions, as he’s the master of all. 😃

After reading what Mickaelia wrote (“she”), I thought that that the ordering of your suggestions were interesting. I didn’t realize that you were female. In that case I’m wondering why you would suggest using a sexual stimulant b4 a gradual attractant, which is what I thought ladies need first?

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**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/9 "2011-01-27T12:22:48Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> After reading what Mickaelia wrote (“she”), I thought that that the ordering of your suggestions were interesting. I didn’t realize that you were female. In that case I’m wondering why you would suggest using a sexual stimulant b4 a gradual attractant, which is what I thought ladies need first?

Sorry about that, I was just jotting them down as they came to mind, no particular order. 😃 I hope I didn’t confuse you! 😛

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/10 "2011-01-27T12:32:50Z")

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> [@kelsey](#):
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> Welcome to Pherotalk Ocean!
> 
> Spinach did a good job in her suggestions to you. In addition, you already spoke to our pheromone expert Steve so you are good to go.
> 
> In order for me to issue your gift certificate I need more information from you though.
> 
> Please let us know your personality and how you got to know about this forum?

I was just wondering…why there’s a checklist by my profile for instant female magic while after searching for it, I’m having trouble finding it on the store websight? Please guide me. thanks

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/11 "2011-01-27T14:12:53Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> I was just wondering…why there’s a checklist by my profile for instant female magic while after searching for it, I’m having trouble finding it on the store websight? Please guide me. thanks

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is no longer being sold in the store. Why is a long story and you can find numerous threads on it if you search.

The closest equivalent is A-1 from Love Scent.

Musk

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/12 "2011-01-27T15:23:14Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> Instant Female Magic is no longer being sold in the store. Why is a long story and you can find numerous threads on it if you search.
> 
> The closest equivalent is A-1 from Love Scent.
> 
> Musk

Tried finding A 1 or A-1 or A1 on Love scent, but nothing comesup.  
BTW what do you think would be a really incognito (as far as scent is concerned) with “doing the job” that I need done (for my dear wife who is SUPER DUPER sensitive to any scent besides her ‘secret brand’ deoderant)?

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/13 "2011-01-27T20:22:20Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> Tried finding A 1 or A-1 or A1 on Love scent, but nothing comesup.

My bad. A1 is forum shorthand for androstadienone. If you move the mouse over A1, you’ll see a small pop up window. I’ve searched for androstadienone on Love Scent and it came back with a result.

> [@](#):
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> BTW what do you think would be a really incognito (as far as scent is concerned) with “doing the job” that I need done (for my dear wife who is SUPER DUPER sensitive to any scent besides her ‘secret brand’ deoderant)?

There is no such thing as an [unscented pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/). By themselves, they will smell like unwashed body parts. Most of AD’s products come with their own cover scent called Neroli (orange flower). This is a light scent that can be easily covered with your own cologne if needed.

If your wife is used to the smell of your own scent(s), she shouldn’t object.

Musk

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/14 "2011-01-27T20:56:18Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> My bad. A1 is forum shorthand for androstadienone. If you move the mouse over A1, you’ll see a small pop up window. I’ve searched for androstadienone on Love Scent and it came back with a result.
> 
> There is no such thing as an unscented pheromone. By themselves, they will smell like unwashed body parts. Most of AD’s products come with their own cover scent called Neroli (orange flower). This is a light scent that can be easily covered with your own cologne if needed.
> 
> If your wife is used to the smell of your own scent(s), she shouldn’t object.
> 
> Musk

Thanks. Tammy at LS emailed me that it’s called dienone. I’m gonna check it out. How did it work for you?  
Also I see great feedback about [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) in putting that drawing-tingly feeling in your target & A79 to help you concentrate better at work and intensify effects of other mones. I’m trying to fabricate a comfortable, exciting & intimate atmosphere while still getting my work done & balancing the kids & house. May I ask you for your take on that?

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/15 "2011-01-27T21:24:27Z")

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I ordered in IS, IH, IG & TUTT. I like how A314 sounds since stress over the years has beaten me down from the fighter (figuratively speaking) that I used to be.

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/16 "2011-01-27T22:16:15Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> I’m trying to fabricate a comfortable, exciting & intimate atmosphere while still getting my work done & balancing the kids & house. May I ask you for your take on that?

It’s worth mentioning that many men make the mistake of believing that women get aroused like we do. Flick a light switch and it’s on, baby! That’s why they reach for the dynamite (TUTH), blow half the neighbourhood to kingdom come and then wonder why she’s not lying there naked and ready.

For women, they need to feel safe, secure and connected with their partner. Only then do they feel aroused. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule but I’ll bet your wife falls into the majority.

Androstadienone or ‘Dienone’ will help with the feelings of comfort. Arousal will arise from that if you steer it correctly. Pheromones won’t do all the work for you.

> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> I ordered in IS, IH, IG & TUTT. I like how A314 sounds since stress over the years has beaten me down from the fighter (figuratively speaking) that I used to be.

Good choice. Even [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) can be sexual. A happy woman can be a frisky one. Honesty can promote deeper, more intimate conversation and you know where that can lead. IG for the mature, dependable vibe and TUTH for when you think, ‘Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!’

Musk

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/17 "2011-01-27T22:37:43Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> It’s worth mentioning that many men make the mistake of believing that women get aroused like we do. Flick a light switch and it’s on, baby! That’s why they reach for the dynamite (TUTH), blow half the neighbourhood to kingdom come and then wonder why she’s not lying there naked and ready.
> 
> For women, they need to feel safe, secure and connected with their partner. Only then do they feel aroused. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule but I’ll bet your wife falls into the majority.
> 
> Androstadienone or ‘Dienone’ will help with the feelings of comfort. Arousal will arise from that if you steer it correctly. Pheromones won’t do all the work for you.
> 
> Good choice. Even Instant Shine can be sexual. A happy woman can be a frisky one. Honesty can promote deeper, more intimate conversation and you know where that can lead. IG for the mature, dependable vibe and TUTH for when you think, ‘Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!’
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> Musk

Exactly! I would say at least 90 percent musyt be like you’re describing which is what I’m after. The intention anyway isn’t to chain her down to her bed 24/7. She’s got way too much to do between everything (although submissiveness & giving me passes all the time definitely can’t hurt).  
How about the other p’s that I mentioned?

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/18 "2011-01-27T22:51:06Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> How about the other p’s that I mentioned?

The putative series are molecules suspected of being [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) but haven’t been confirmed as such. They’re recommended only for advanced users.

If you do decide to go for the P and MX mixes, I can’t stop you. But I’ve never used those and cannot give you any guidance of my own. You’ll find experimenting with them to be a lot easier on your wallet if you get some experience with the standard lineup first and become a reporting user. AD offers discounts on the advanced mixes when you join the elite. 😉

Musk

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**Author:** ![OCEANCOUNTY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b77776/32.png) [@OCEANCOUNTY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OCEANCOUNTY)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/19 "2011-01-27T23:01:29Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
>
> It’s worth mentioning that many men make the mistake of believing that women get aroused like we do. Flick a light switch and it’s on, baby! That’s why they reach for the dynamite (TUTH), blow half the neighbourhood to kingdom come and then wonder why she’s not lying there naked and ready.
> 
> For women, they need to feel safe, secure and connected with their partner. Only then do they feel aroused. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule but I’ll bet your wife falls into the majority.
> 
> Androstadienone or ‘Dienone’ will help with the feelings of comfort. Arousal will arise from that if you steer it correctly. Pheromones won’t do all the work for you.
> 
> Good choice. Even Instant Shine can be sexual. A happy woman can be a frisky one. Honesty can promote deeper, more intimate conversation and you know where that can lead. IG for the mature, dependable vibe and TUTH for when you think, ‘Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!’
> 
> Musk

Also do you think that I can enhance my concoction with some Androstadienone or is sufficient & it’s over kill.

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/total-noobie-to-pheromones/44906/20 "2011-01-27T23:15:25Z")

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> [@OCEANCOUNTY](#):
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> Also do you think that I can enhance my concoction with some Androstadienone or is sufficient & it’s over kill.

Use each one alone and try to get a feel for how they effect you and others around you first before jumping into combinations.

All of the products you have ordered, including androstadienone, are capable of getting you to where you want to be. Some might pull the wheel in one direction, others will pull it the other way. But they will get you there in the end.

You’re still the driver though and you are ultimately responsible for success or failure. Too many pheromones at once will result in the car weaving all over the road, out of control. Too many signals and too many hands fighting over the wheel. You catch my drift?

I’m not going to be popular with the throw-everything-in-but-the-kitchen-sink crowd, but the single products will work fine.

Musk

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