# Traderblk's Trials

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [February 24, 2010, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501 "2010-02-24T07:46:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/21 "2010-03-03T12:06:01Z")

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Dude thats good shit. It goes to show you don’t always need none to get your gal going. Keep up the good work.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/22 "2010-03-04T23:48:34Z")

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Musk should be OK if you’re feeling adventurous and mixing stuff up, but please do remember this. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) depend on the bacteria of the skin for diffusion just as it does certain scent packages like Neroli. If you’re going to use an EO, just make absolutely sure you are not using an anti-bacterial or all you’ll have is a wasted product and no good results 🙂

Thanks for inviting me to check out the journal too 🙂

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/23 "2010-03-05T07:04:45Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Musk should be OK if you’re feeling adventurous and mixing stuff up, but please do remember this. Pheromones depend on the bacteria of the skin for diffusion just as it does certain scent packages like Neroli. If you’re going to use an EO, just make absolutely sure you are not using an anti-bacterial or all you’ll have is a wasted product and no good results 🙂
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> Thanks for inviting me to check out the journal too 🙂

Hey Steve,

I am glad you showed up Thats an important point. I have mixed some npa into a bottle of musk fragrance, glad its not antibacterial.

What do you think about using a tiny cotton wool ball thats absorbed some A314 and then placed into the ridge above the ear canal. This is an old method used in some cultures when applying perfumes.

Regards

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/24 "2010-03-05T07:08:06Z")

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Thursdays Results

Product used: 2 sprays IG to chest  
Location: Work  
Self Effects: Mild: subtle improved concentration,focus.  
Results: Consistent subtle respect hits, good approachability, good social mone.

Left early for home and spray 2 sprays IMPI and met SO at home.  
Things got hot pretty quick.

Another good combo.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/25 "2010-03-07T18:49:11Z")

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I think I am goint to stop reporting on home affairs except to say that I am convinced that these mones could help to improve in varying degrees the quality and quantity of intimacy in any marriage. A combination of IG and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH definitely heats things up!

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/26 "2010-03-10T14:07:29Z")

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My regular work mix seems to be doing well for me, keeps coworkers from bothering me unless absolutely necessary people.  
I dont like being bothered for petty issues.

A314 2 drops  
IH 1 spray  
Cttm2 1 spray

Today I added shine to the mix 1 spray and found that the nearby ladies were very chatty and upbeat.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/27 "2010-03-10T14:09:50Z")

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I have been on the road to self improvement and am using supplements and mones for different aspect of my life and can truly say that my mojo is improved so much. its like i am at least 5-10 years younger. my so is like “what is with you! what are you taking!” i hope she can stick with me lol.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/28 "2010-03-12T07:11:18Z")

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Friday  
Product used: 2 sprays IG to chest  
Location: Work  
Self Effects: Mild: subtle improved concentration,focus.  
Results: Consistent subtle respect hits, good approachability.

I noticed that the girls at work were not as upbeat and chatty as when i used cttm2 and is.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/29 "2010-03-15T14:51:35Z")

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Monday

Product used A314 1 drop spread below ears to jawline.  
Environment Work  
Self Effects Mild focus boost, confidence  
Effects on other: good respect.

A 314 is great for work. I think 1 or 2 drops is still fine. Once I go over that it becomes too serious and I can get a bit cranky.

This is what i have noticed so far regarding self effects using different mones.

A-nol: Initially it gives me a slight headrush, almost euphoric, but then burnout and crash, I feel lethargic and when i wake from sleep i am sluggish.

Rone: this is a balance between nol and none. I feel friendly calm, but missing something ( perhaps a bit of none)

None: makes me feel strong and powerful, confident, too much makes me aggressive and omg this stuff makes me horny. using none really increases my sex drive

Has anyone else noticed this.

I am finding that the best self effects i get are from a combo of rone and none-perfect for work ie A314 and for going out and social occasions i would look at AE, A7 or Ammo with IS.

Using IO or IH is difficult because the stuff makes me lethargic and sleepy. Who else gets this effect.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/30 "2010-03-18T07:35:00Z")

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Wed

Products Used: 1 drops A314 spread below ears to jawline, 1 spray Ammo to lower back.  
Self Effects: Usual confidence, seriousness attributed to A314. Ammo adds a feeling of adventure and attraction, makes me want to make social contact with women.

Location: Work

Effects on others. I am noticing subtle effects on women. They are giving me more attention and IOI’s. Not yet sure about this, needs further testing.

Part 2

Went home and added a spray of tuth for home affairs. Got lucky.  
After shower left for the local park for regular jog. Met some friend and noticed good respect hits from other guys and good rapport while communicating.

A good day, lots to think about.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/31 "2010-03-18T07:45:51Z")

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Thurs

Because of the interesting results yesterday. I decided to add a little ammo to my regular work mix. It seems to make life more exciting.

Products Used 1 drop A314 applied to a little cotton wool ball which I have placed between the cartilage “grooves” on my ear. This is how many people in the east apply oil based perfumes. More on this later.  
Ammo: 1 spray at lower back  
IS: 1 drop applied the same as A314- in the future I will apply this by spraying normally since it is not oil based.

Location used: Work

Self Effects. Less than usual immediate effect of A314 since the application method allows for a more subtle but prolonged effect.  
The ammo I notice more intensely. After a few minute it smooths out and give an adventurous feel to life, like I want to do something different today. Life needs to be more exciting. I feel more attractive and interesting and more interested in making contact with women (visual and social.)

Effects on others: I have been getting more than normal eye contact and IOI’s and this is unusual. I wonder is it the mones, my entire attitude or am I just looking better physically, since I have been on self improvement vibe for the last few months.

I have been working out almost daily doing a lot of conditioning exercises. I have brought my weight up to 145 lbs. from 140 in the last month. I also ran a couple of times a week and my muscles have grown some.

I am also using some products for improving hair growth, and preventing hair loss.

This is an interesting mix so far.

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/32 "2010-03-18T21:12:13Z")

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Traderblk, these are very interesting application points:🙂

- 1 drop A314 applied to a little cotton wool ball which I have placed between the cartilage “grooves” on my ear. Do people quesition for the reason you have cotton in your ea(s)?
- Ammo: 1 spray at lower back: Why? Is there a paricular reason for the lower back?

MVKBugatti

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/33 "2010-03-19T07:41:04Z")

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> [@MVKBUGATTI](#):
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> Traderblk, these are very interesting application points:🙂
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> - 1 drop A314 applied to a little cotton wool ball which I have placed between the cartilage “grooves” on my ear. Do people quesition for the reason you have cotton in your ea(s)?
> - Ammo: 1 spray at lower back: Why? Is there a paricular reason for the lower back?
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> MVKBugatti

Hey MVKBUGATTI,

Good to hear from you!

Anyway, to your question.

The cotton wool ball is not visible since it fits within the grooves. Even I do not see it. Since it so absorbent a little is sufficient.

I am testing this method out to measure the difference between this application method and the normal one ie. spreading around jawline.

This method of application itself gives rise to a few observations and some food for thought.

**1)** The oil is localized in one spot as opposed to being smeared around an area, naturally causing the scent to emit more intensely from a specific area.

**a) How would this effect the potency of the mones?**

Answer) I am not sure, but I suspect it would work efficiently. I will continue this experiment to get more data.

**2)** The majority of the oil is absorbed into the cotton wool, with only a little at a time making full contact with the skin, as opposed to smearing which would see all the product interacting with the skin from initial application.

**a) Would this change the burn rate of the mones? Would it last longer?**

Answer) Unsure, will have to experiment to learn. It’s a possibility that not all the oil would be reacting on the skin from initial application and would be used up slower than normal. This would also depend on how efficient the cotton wool is in “storing” the oil. I suspect it would be better than expected, since it has been used this way traditionally. I think that I would be able to give the cotton wool ball a little squeeze to release a little of the oil that is “stored” within the ball, sort of a controlled “time release”.  
This may have some potential.

**b) Would this reduce the intensity? Does the contact with the skin have a lot to do with the efficacy of the mones?**

Answer) I do not know the answer to this. I am open to suggestions and will learn from experience. I suspect that it would not really reduce the intensity, only reducing the amount of mones in contact with the skin at any one time, which can also be adjusted by causing the release of more mones with a little squeeze.

**B]c)** Would some of the mones just dry up in the cotton wool?\*\*

Answer) Possibly, but maybe not since the cotton wool is reasonably insulated from air and light since it is mostly surrounded by cartilage. Normal application is much more exposed to air and light. Even so this will be clear in time.

**3)** Applying at the ear is much higher than the neck and jawline, and height wise is more within the range of other’s nasal scent range.

**a) Would this cause the mones to be smelled more easily since the scent would be at the “right height” for most?**

Answer) This might be an efficient way to deliver the scent through an horizontal plane that is in proximity to most peoples scent range.

Whew! This adventure into the world of mones is really stimulating in more ways that one. Thanks to Androtics and to all the great people of the community. This gives me something more to look forward to.

Pls pardon all the text editing, I am new to that.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/34 "2010-03-23T23:08:58Z")

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Its a great experiment and only time and experience will tell. The bacteria on skin helps the pheromones diffuse, but I don’t see any reason why the bacteria on the skin of the ear wouldn’t suffice.

I’m interested so keep us informed 🙂

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/35 "2010-03-24T08:29:06Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Its a great experiment and only time and experience will tell. The bacteria on skin helps the pheromones diffuse, but I don’t see any reason why the bacteria on the skin of the ear wouldn’t suffice.
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> I’m interested so keep us informed 🙂

Steve, thanks for the input. Somedays I can post and somedays not. I will try to keep you guys informed.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/36 "2010-03-24T19:07:14Z")

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Do it when you can, that’s all I can ask and expect anyway 🙂

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/37 "2010-03-25T07:40:21Z")

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Thursday

Product used: 2 drops A314 applied on cotton wool ball placed in ear groove, placed in such a way so that it is not visible.  
1 spray IS to back of neck.

Some more observations on this application method.

I noticed that normal washing of hands and face usually causes loss of mones, but with this application method the soap and water would not contact the mones.

I will sooner of later have to test this out on other oil based mones.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/38 "2010-03-29T13:13:50Z")

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I have been maintaining my dose of A314 at 1-2 drops and have decided to test the difference going up to 3 drops. The effects on others are more blatant. Since I have been testing only oil based products using an unorthodox application method, I decided to combine NPA, A314 and an oil based mens perfume.

I mixed 1:4:1 NPA to Perfume to A314. I really like this mix. For self effects it truly makes me feel like rising to the occasion, any occasion. I have been more assertive and confident when dealing with people and it is bringing out latent strengths from within my personality.

I have also been pushed into contemplating the subtleties of confidence ie comparing aggression to assertiveness. I realise that alpha-the opposite of weakness - is not brooding, aggressive and angry, rather comfortable and able, able to use the positive power of determination rather than anger.Alpha is also about using the full gambit of human emotion as needed, not shying away from any of them, or being stuck with any one state.

These mones can truly take a person on an amazing journey of self discovery. I am busy with NLP and hoping to use it to replicate self effects eventually.

So far I have been applying any oil based mones using a tiny cotton wool ball placed with the external ridges of the ear. This has prevent wastage through hand and face washing and allows for the quick " removal " of mones for a “mone signature change” when needed. Possible way of avoiding OD and buildup. There are probably other similar mone carriers with more benefits.

Since I was out and about I went for a mine pherobomb, more like a pherocloud.

**Sunday**  
Products used 3 drops A314 on cotton wool ball to left ear, 2 drops NPA to cotton wool ball rt ear. covered with spray cologne.  
2 IS, 1 on each side of neck, plus 1 spray of AMMO on chest. (smells good)  
**Location** : Mall  
**Self Effects** : Confidence, assertiveness, YES I CAN attitude. Self Belief.  
**Effects on Others:** Cockiness does appeal to women conditional on u being what u represent. Many hits, I was also dressed up and looking good and feeling good.

I have noticed a tendency for me to get mentally drained after using the nols and possible IS. Other than that this mix was very fun.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/39 "2010-04-14T08:29:38Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Do it when you can, that’s all I can ask and expect anyway 🙂

**Update on using cotton wool ball method.**

_Stunning discovery:_  
I kept a couple of the cotton wool balls from previous days. I squeezed one that was over 2 days old and found my finger wet with the remnant mones still there. amazing that it lasted that long and had its scent intact.

I have stopped this experiment for now so that I can continue testing other products. So far I can say that everyone should try the mix listed previously of A314, NPA and perfume oil. 1:1:3 or 1:1:4

It is really awesome with self effects.

I still notice that A-nol tends to give self effects of lethargy and weariness, although I am getting used to it, whereas none and rone fire me up. Wonder what this means.

I have tried ammo, but notice that it can make me irritable, whereas Tuth is just great and it works well to establish the mood, sort of like a subliminal foreplay.

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**Author:** ![traderblk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@traderblk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderblk)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/traderblks-trials/36501/40 "2010-04-20T07:00:26Z")

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**Saturday**  
Products used: 1 drop A314 and 1 gel pack SOE spread around arms and neck  
Location: Went for a seminar.  
Self Effects: Not much  
Effects on Others: Got decent respect and attractiveness hits, and overall mild increase in conversations (small talk).  
Proximity: seats were close to each other  
Later I refreshed with 2 sprays cttm2 and 1 spray ig to neck.  
Self effects: slight buzz from the nols, I felt more dull and lethargic as time wore on. I feel it is the nols that effect me this way. By the time the evening came around I was mentally drained.  
Effects on others: The girl next to me turned into a friendly (chatterbox).

_Overall I would says cttm2 and IG make for an excellent combination, except for me the cttms2 would have to be in mild doses as the nols do me in by undermining me mentally.  
The rone, I like. It makes me feel confident. The none I like especially, but in measured quantities it gives me energy, I use it when I hit the gym._

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