# Tried this mix: "Mixed" results **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 30, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432 "2012-04-30T11:21:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![max4334](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@max4334](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/max4334)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/1 "2012-04-30T11:21:04Z")
Pun not intended So I tried: 1 Part IG 2 parts IS 3 Parts p83 1 Part p74 1 part Alpha version b 2 Parts [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1 Part IH Maybe I went overboard. I wanted something to make me approachable, but in the celebrity kind of way, as well as real bf material. I always feel these things much more than others do. They make me feel a little more grounded. Happier definately. I’ve noticed with 1 on 1 interactions this one girl was really open and friendly. Not much kino. Doesn’t seem to effect people much beyond “You smell nice”. Maybe it’s just harder for people who’ve been around me for years. I don’t doubt that. No real noticable effect on males. People in general seem a bit more friendly. Can’t say much more beyond that. Any advice? Concerns? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/2 "2012-04-30T12:31:59Z")
> [@max4334](#): > > Pun not intended > > So I tried: > 1 Part IG > 2 parts IS > 3 Parts p83 > 1 Part p79 > 1 part Alpha > 2 Parts Ammo > 1 Part IH > > Maybe I went overboard. I wanted something to make me approachable, but in the celebrity kind of way, as well as real bf material. > > I always feel these things much more than others do. They make me feel a little more grounded. Happier definately. > > I’ve noticed with 1 on 1 interactions this one girl was really open and friendly. Not much kino. Doesn’t seem to effect people much beyond “You smell nice”. Maybe it’s just harder for people who’ve been around me for years. I don’t doubt that. > > No real noticable effect on males. People in general seem a bit more friendly. Can’t say much more beyond that. > > Any advice? Concerns? If you want celebrity, try mx297 2 sprays 1 spray ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/3 "2012-04-30T12:34:24Z")
> [@max4334](#): > > So I tried: > 1 Part [IG](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) > 2 parts IS > 3 Parts [p83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) > 1 Part [p79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) > 1 part Alpha > 2 Parts [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) > 1 Part [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) What is the dosage (mcg) of your Putatives? ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/4 "2012-04-30T20:32:49Z")
My best celeb/omg you’re the coolest guy in the world mix. 2 a314b 3 shine 2 Ijerk I’d say use more of fewer mixes. I think using just a bit of such a big variety makes for a confusing mix for people. Ive had the most success using one product primarily then tweaking it with other products. Edit: and beer. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/5 "2012-05-01T05:46:42Z")
> [@max4334](#): > > So I tried: > 1 Part IG > 2 parts IS > 3 Parts p83 > 1 Part p79 > 1 part Alpha > 2 Parts Ammo > 1 Part IH There is a lot of doubling and even tripling-up on certain major pheros in there - particularly rone and nols. It could be that you are creating a major conflict/confusion between the bubbly/chatty nol vibe and the solid/serious rone vibe and overmoderating the none and IS along the way. Reducing the number of products with common components will let the rest get their heads over the parapet in the mix. Less is very often more in phero mixing. Oh and dose would also help let us see what is going-on here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![max4334](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@max4334](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/max4334)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/6 "2012-05-01T09:00:07Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > There is a lot of doubling and even tripling-up on certain major pheros in there - particularly rone and nols. > > It could be that you are creating a major conflict/confusion between the bubbly/chatty nol vibe and the solid/serious rone vibe and overmoderating the none and IS along the way. > > Reducing the number of products with common components will let the rest get their heads over the parapet in the mix. Less is very often more in phero mixing. > > Oh and dose would also help let us see what is going-on here. 🙂 p83 is 30mg p74 is 15mg all non putative are their 1x versions ---
**Author:** ![max4334](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@max4334](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/max4334)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/7 "2012-05-01T10:20:36Z")
which ones specifically are prone to conflicting? Which would you reccomend then that I ditch? ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/8 "2012-05-01T11:36:20Z")
> [@max4334](#): > > which ones specifically are prone to conflicting? Which would you reccomend then that I ditch? I’d say IG & a314. Take IG out of that mix IMO. I think that makes the mix more “beta” which you don’t want if your’e going for a superstar vibe. I also haven’t tried IH at all, so I can’t really speak to that being in/out of that mix. ---
**Author:** ![max4334](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@max4334](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/max4334)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/9 "2012-05-02T07:58:16Z")
> [@romodinho](#): > > I’d say IG & a314. Take IG out of that mix IMO. I think that makes the mix more “beta” which you don’t want if your’e going for a superstar vibe. > > I also haven’t tried IH at all, so I can’t really speak to that being in/out of that mix. any other suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/10 "2012-05-02T10:57:21Z")
> [@max4334](#): > > Originally Posted by max4334 > So I tried: > 1 Part IG > 2 parts IS > 3 Parts p83 > 1 Part p74 > 1 part Alpha version b > 2 Parts Ammo > 1 Part IH IG, Ammo and A314 all contain rone and IG/A314 makes for a lot of rone. Very mature/fatherly and with the A314 steering hi-status and maybe serious or standoffish. On a 17/18 yr old, that is very likely to appear old way beyond your years to others around your age or just no-fun at all. Could give an impression like someone’s dad walking into the party and just sitting there, watching. And not BF material at all - That much rone might suggest you actually have the ring in your pocket and are ready to pair-off permanently. Which is not that attractive to a lot of girls around your age who are still likely to be in a mood to have fun and play the field. Ammo and IH contain nols and the IH is mostly betanol - which again is deeper and more serious than alphanol. The P74, although more friendly also has qualities similar to betanol. And both the above combos are effective none moderators so the none from the two sprays of Ammo and the tiny amount in the A314 is likely to be almost entirely negated. Otherwise, the rest looks good. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![max4334](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@max4334](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/max4334)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/11 "2012-05-03T10:11:02Z")
wow. thanks for the heads up. no more IG and alpha for me ---
**Author:** ![Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6bbea6/32.png) [@Zombie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/12 "2012-05-04T17:59:48Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > If you want celebrity, try mx297 2 sprays 1 spray ammo. This sounds very tempting. Would A314 be equally suitable as [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), or would it be in danger of giving the old man vibe previously mentioned? Just kind of curious as to what role MX297 has in creating that VIP vibe. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tried-this-mix-mixed-results/55432/13 "2012-05-04T18:35:51Z")
Not suitable at all - A314 and [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) are almost polar opposites. Although A314/Ammo is an excellent mix in its own right. However, MX297 (and its variant MXs) is a superb social/socially engaging mix if you work with it. Real “life and soul of the party” and centre of attention stuff and it certainly won’t carry any kind of old man vibe. More or less, its exactly the kind of mix OP wanted to create. It lacks none which may not be a problem for a younger guy with good natural none production but a lot of us older ones find it can be helped into a more sexual direction by the addition of none. Ammo does work but personally I don’t think the rone in Ammo (or any other rone product) helps the 297 vibe at all. I found the simple and direct message of a little TUTH or even plain Androstenone far better.