# Trill's Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 6, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702 "2016-12-06T03:13:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/21 "2017-05-26T12:00:04Z")
I responded to your PM and was looking thru your journal and was thinking maybe to switch the P96 for the P74 with your IG/[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) setup and see where it goes? P74 can soften a mix a little so I would stay fairly low on this one like around 10MCG might be a good fit. I was thinking of maybe upping the Ammo like 2 spray to 1 spray IG and then some P74 might be ok to. Just another option to maybe try. If things don’t pan out with this particular woman, just remember it is ok and at 24 there should be plenty of women out there, so no worries. I know it is always hard when you like a particular woman though. If things don’t work out though, there will be plenty of others. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/22 "2017-05-28T20:14:33Z")
For some odd reasons, it’s the first time I notice the existence of this journal. Sorry for that. Good work. I am subscribing! ---
**Author:** ![Trillmendous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Trillmendous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trillmendous)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/23 "2017-05-29T01:01:27Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > For some odd reasons, it’s the first time I notice the existence of this journal. Sorry for that. Good work. I am subscribing! Thanks Conjurator. Right now I’m at the stage where I’m still trying to find my sweet spot. I think so far the only ones I figured out is Ammo and P96. The Rone products I’ve still yet to figure out what works for me and what does not. Justintime is also helping me with a personal issue behind the scenes. I don’t like posting to much on it publicly but I’ll try to keep you guys updated on what mixes and molecules I use and what works and what doesn’t. Long Story Short, Justin and I believe that this might be the withdrawal part of a fallout but we’re not sure yet since in this particular situation the target is being pretty hostile towards me after being the complete opposite about a week before. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/24 "2017-05-29T04:10:27Z")
Glad to see you’ve got some things figured out. Did you ever get TUTH or IJ? I’ve never tried IJ to this day, but it’s on my list. Rone does seem like a tricky one. Rone tends to draw attention from Asians or latins. Otherwise respect hits and ‘you’re like my uncle’ hits are what you can expect to see. ---
**Author:** ![Trillmendous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Trillmendous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trillmendous)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/25 "2017-05-29T11:32:37Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > Glad to see you’ve got some things figured out. Did you ever get TUTH or IJ? > I’ve never tried IJ to this day, but it’s on my list. > > Rone does seem like a tricky one. Rone tends to draw attention from Asians or latins. Otherwise respect hits and ‘you’re like my uncle’ hits are what you can expect to see. I have TUTH but I think I decided to use Ammo in place of it instead in most mixes. Just so you know my sweet spot for ammo seems to be just 1 spray in mixes. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/26 "2017-05-29T13:47:45Z")
I am wondering if you keep whatever you are using with this woman the same and only switch the P96 out for the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) how it would pan out? I am thinking she being younger that she just may not know how to handle things with the P96 connection with the emotions and feelings. The P74 would provide the bonding, just would not be so emotional pulling like the P96 can be. I am thinking if you get the right mix on that she can handle that you should be able to get her outside of work and things would really open up. I am really thinking she likes you and just does not know how to handle things and if you are able to get her outside of work even for something very simple like lunch or something that she will do a 180 on her attitude because she will feel more comfortable at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Trillmendous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Trillmendous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trillmendous)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/27 "2017-06-01T12:51:05Z")
Hey Phero experts. I was wondering if any of you would like to engage in a discussion about Stealth Diffusion. If you read the last few entries I posted here I mentioned getting inconsistent results. Do you guys think the fact that a big chunk of my mones are stealth versions could be playing a part in the inconsistent results I’m getting from the same mixes. When some of my products run out I might look to buy the scented versions so I can test this myself but I really want to hear from you guys if you think stealth products are inferior to the scented ones? ---
**Author:** ![rtj666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rtj666](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtj666)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/28 "2017-06-01T16:07:52Z")
> [@Trillmendous](#): > > Hey Phero experts. I was wondering if any of you would like to engage in a discussion about Stealth Diffusion. > > If you read the last few entries I posted here I mentioned getting inconsistent results. Do you guys think the fact that a big chunk of my mones are stealth versions could be playing a part in the inconsistent results I’m getting from the same mixes. > > When some of my products run out I might look to buy the scented versions so I can test this myself but I really want to hear from you guys if you think stealth products are inferior to the scented ones? I’m an absolute beginner at this lark, so don’t this as gospel, but I’d think the stealth ones are better as you can apply more than with the scented stuff. Sometimes I want to apply more sprays, but don’t as otherwise it’ll smell like I’ve been rolling in a flower bed and it’ll be too strong a fragrance. Never mind the pheromones. I’m swinging the opposite way and thinking of moving from scented to unscented to be able to try more without reeking of smelly stuff. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/29 "2017-06-01T16:28:02Z")
I’m personally very very pleased with the stealth diffusion mones, having ordered & used stealth in 2x ammo, TUTH, Shine oil & CTTM2 oil. I was surprised that the ammo & TUTH mone scents weren’t overbearing without a cover scent & I’m actually getting great hits from the Stealth products which is terrific because I didn’t particularly like the colognes used in ammo & TUTH. The diffusion distances seem to be enhanced with the Stealth versions as well. Yaaaay! ---
**Author:** ![Trillmendous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Trillmendous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trillmendous)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/30 "2017-06-02T01:41:49Z")
would you say they have the same range as scented products or do you have to be in closer proximity for the effects to be noticed by others? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/31 "2017-06-02T04:11:09Z")
I’ve tried a few products stealth and I’d say it just depends. Some seem stronger than others and some I swear I get better results with the neroli. Also, I have P96 both stealth and neroli and I prefer to use neroli because when I use the stealth it seems to be too strong of a odor that I can best describe as musk. The stealth is still fairly new so.. I think we’re all still learning? Honestly I like all my products in neroli, I probably won’t be a stealther in the long run. I just prefer the neroli, since I wear my mixes on my neck I don’t want to smell musk all day. My 2 penns.. ---
**Author:** ![Trillmendous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Trillmendous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trillmendous)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/32 "2017-06-02T11:57:41Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I’ve tried a few products stealth and I’d say it just depends. > Some seem stronger than others and some I swear I get better results with the neroli. > Also, I have P96 both stealth and neroli and I prefer to use neroli because when I use the stealth it seems to be too strong of a odor that I can best describe as musk. > > The stealth is still fairly new so.. I think we’re all still learning? > Honestly I like all my products in neroli, I probably won’t be a stealther in the long run. I just prefer the neroli, since I wear my mixes on my neck I don’t want to smell musk all day. > > My 2 penns.. Thanks for your input and I’m starting to believe that stealth just isn’t as strong as the scented products but I don’t know for sure because I don’t have the both stealth and scented products of the same mones it’s either one or the other. For example my ammo is scented and I usually always notice that one working however my p96 and IG are stealth and I seem to get inconsistent results when I use those and most the times these inconsistent results come from the same people. Question - Are we allowed to talk about mones bought from other retailers in our journals? ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/33 "2017-06-03T06:59:31Z")
I think they are the same, strength-wise. It’s just that for some, a fragrance triggers something in their mind, such as happy memories, that helps in making the pheromone effects/vibe become more noticeable, which leads us to assume that fragranced molecules are “stronger” than stealth. You can bring up mones from other producers into your journal as long as it is not written in such a way that you are marketing it, we certainly do not host affiliate sellers in our boards. And if it dominates your journal, in such a way that it cease to become a journal of your experiences with AD products, but a journal of other products, we have the right to remove it. 🙂 So far, we haven’t exercised that right yet. 🙂 I am trying to be liberal with this too, but it’s a different story if someone/anyone has reported one’s thread to us. Also, those kinds of reports are not going to count if you are aspiring to become an RU. We also do not confirm the veracity of any thoughts, theories, ideas revolving around those other molecules, since they are not within our research range, so any claims are not canon to us. 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702/34 "2017-06-07T15:10:37Z")
> [@Trillmendous](#): > > Thanks for your input and I’m starting to believe that stealth just isn’t as strong as the scented products but I don’t know for sure because I don’t have the both stealth and scented products of the same mones it’s either one or the other. For example my ammo is scented and I usually always notice that one working however my p96 and IG are stealth and I seem to get inconsistent results when I use those and most the times these inconsistent results come from the same people. > > Question - Are we allowed to talk about mones bought from other retailers in our journals? I mention other mones and things like Essential Oils sometimes, but I try to keep it to how it pertains to how they effect my pheromone usage and like Dee mentions not promoting other products is all. I actually just potsed in my journal about using the stealth and I love it as far as the sprays goes. The only ones I will keep in the standard Neroli or Ammo is the TUTH or Ammo or anything with Enone or Erone just to help mask the natural scent of those as they need a little extra scent. I like the stealth because I can adjust the dose of single molecules without having the scent in the equation and then use a cover scent as I see fit to make my mix not only unique pheromone wise, but also in the scent as well and I can control how much scent to how much of each molecule and dial in things better. Just my experience with it and why I choose to use the stealth setup. Really I think it is personal choice and I don’t have enough data yet on the oil stealth setups to decide anything there. I do have a set I keep that I rarely use that is Neroli and that is mainly for testing a mix that others use to keep everything the same for testing purposes as others. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trills-journal/66702.md?page=1)