# Troubled: a few weeks in, tried every spray count and situation, no real difference **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 20, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150 "2008-06-20T04:17:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150/21 "2008-06-21T02:09:40Z")
Yea it’s a common reation from -none OD, intimidating and aggressive…pure sexual attraction is aggressive in nature, too much of that, you get the one extreme… ---
**Author:** ![Vman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vman/32/1347_2.png) [@Vman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150/22 "2008-06-21T03:58:12Z")
> [@denec](#): > > Hey Vman, > > I am older and in NYC as well > > I can only give you my experience from meeting total strangers, not from around friends. > > All of my hits that you read on the boards are from people I either meet in the streets or trains of NYC, or going to bars or clubs. > > To be honest I notice very little change from around friends or family when i started to use pheros, I think you will only see differences with people who you have not met before. > > Are you trying out pheros at bars and clubs? And not having any hits? > > Also one other thing to keep in mind, there are days that go by that I get no hits at all. I only post about my positive hits, unless I am doing a specific report about a product. No clubs and bars yet. I’m only 17. Waiting to hit 18. I also don’t take the train much. Just a few stops 3 times a week to work and back. On the other hand I went to a feast today. It was wack. But to the point… I wore Ammo [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and MX271. My friend told me I smelled good and it went relatively well. I wish I was able to repeat it without pheroes in the same exact way. I can’t tell the difference when I am wearing them and when I am not. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150/23 "2008-06-21T11:08:53Z")
Vman Perhaps the problem is you not picking up on the cues. Reactions can be subtle a lot of the time and the products are designed to give you a edge. Being able to read body language is a skill you develop more and more as you age. So IMO I feel for the younger guys under 20 its a little tougher when they start out using pheromones then it would be for the older users. Learn all you can about reading body language. I just posted a pretty good link over in the ladies section under “How do I know I am getting hits” [Using Body Language](http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/body_language.htm) Hang in there sometimes it jut takes time Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150/24 "2008-06-21T12:43:34Z")
> [@Daddy](#): > > Are you saying this from personal experience? You purposely OD’d on TUTH and this is exactly what happened to you? Yes, mine leaked a little in shipping (~1/5 of the bottle) so I wiped the bubble pack up my arms and dried it on my shirt. Then saw some interesting things. > [@Vman](#): > > Thanks everyone. I just hope I get too see some results sometime soon. Like I said I am not expecting anyone to jump up on me and start humping my leg. Judging by some reports it seems its possible lol. I am just looking for that smile or longer hug or anything of that matter. I will say this much, at least you are having troubles socially, not parental troubles like the guys at Gloucester High School. ---
**Author:** ![wiseowlk12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wiseowlk12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiseowlk12)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150/25 "2008-06-21T13:31:40Z")
Vman, yes I agree with Tisha, noticing body language, esp. female body language is often subtle. I have a bit of an advantage in this since i have a fine-art background and observation is key to my training. I would also try to stay away from scented soaps/shampoos/deodorant etc since this may be throwing off you phero scent. Yea…especially if you take a shower 2x a day. See what happens then… Good luck! -ND P.S. Oh what I would give to be in my teens again, with this stuff of course… ---
**Author:** ![Vman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vman/32/1347_2.png) [@Vman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150/26 "2008-06-21T13:52:05Z")
> [@wiseowlk12](#): > > Vman, yes I agree with Tisha, noticing body language, esp. female body language is often subtle. I have a bit of an advantage in this since i have a fine-art background and observation is key to my training. I would also try to stay away from scented soaps/shampoos/deodorant etc since this may be throwing off you phero scent. > > Good luck! > > -ND > P.S. Oh what I would give to be in my teens again, with this stuff of course… Oh I did not know about the soaps and stuff. I use body wash that is scented… shampoo is head n shoulders so I am not sure what kind of scent that has. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/troubled-a-few-weeks-in-tried-every-spray-count-and-situation-no-real-difference/14150.md?page=1)