# Trust: which pheromones help win back someone you hurt badly, and is AFA any good? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 3, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116 "2007-12-03T19:16:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BlueTearsOfLove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueTearsOfLove](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlueTearsOfLove)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/1 "2007-12-03T19:16:09Z")
Well… I know there are pheronomes for trust out there… but could I get some tips wich are the best to get back the trust from someone you hurt BADLY! As in very very very badly. I know [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) dont solve everything but still I want to give it a try. I orded: **Androstenone Fragrance Additive (AFA)- unisex** actually because I could only find one site who sells them in the netherlands. Did anyone use this one? Is it good? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/2 "2007-12-03T23:27:38Z")
I would not choose androstenone … ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/3 "2007-12-04T00:10:56Z")
Mark is right what you bought is a sexual pheromone and its not going to create trust. Use to much of that around her and she will most likely just become agitated even though she will also be aroused. pheromones cant create trust were there is none. Trust is earned by your actions. There are pheromones that can make a person feel safe and comfortable and give them feelings of trust but they wont erase what they already consiously know about you. My suggestion for pheromones would be Instant gentlmen and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). But keep in mind that you hurt this person and this is not going to solve that or win that trust back. That comes from you. The pheromones may just make her willing to give you a chance. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/4 "2007-12-04T10:36:44Z")
I’d also give A314 a try, it should improve the respect given towards you and as a result trust and loyalty should follow given you play it right. That said, pheros wont overcome the mental filters now in place of the person you hurt. You simlpy cant re-wire someones brain using pheros. If I were you I’d try and make up for whatever it is you did by righting the wrongs and using pheros as a extra boost. Hope this helps Rattle ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/5 "2007-12-04T11:28:33Z")
Blue, I’ve thought some more about what you wrote and I may have a somewhat comparable _relationship repair_ situation to relate. I am living solo in the city, my wife of twenty years and two sons (15, 13) out in the suburbs; I spend the afternoon and evening with my boys twice a week. Although living separated for over three years, we’re still married without any legal separation. I see my wife perhaps six times a year – a birthday dinner for the boys, a holiday, school play – and started wearing Spaceland and Instant Shine last December when I stayed overnight at Christmas. There was an instantaneous – and strongly suppressed – but positive response from my wife. In spring I added both A-1 and A314 and a traces of -none and the response – on another four or five meetings – has become progressively more positive, and less suppressed. (It’s ~not~ a matter of cynicism for me to note that my wife has started buying dinner out – her treat – since I started wearing A314 around her.) A month ago, we had the longest conversation since we began living apart … ten months or so after I started wearing pheros around her. Was it just finally time for the healing to begin, or were the pheros integral to the shift? I know my answer, but whichever way you see the evidence, my advice is Be patient; be exceedingly patient; and then when you feel so frustrated that you can’t wait find a way to be even more patient. And have a care not to give even the least cause to lose trust again. Try **social** pheros first, is my suggestion. Spaceland, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Come Talk to Me, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine. Perhaps A314, if respect was also lost with the trust. I suspect that the only reason traces of -none helped in my case is that I am a male in my mid-fifties. ---
**Author:** ![BlueTearsOfLove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueTearsOfLove](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlueTearsOfLove)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/6 "2007-12-04T21:39:53Z")
Thanks for the info… the reason why I bought that one is because I wanted to attract people and it didnt just include Androstenoneeventhough thats in the name… it also includes androstenol. ( it says its an unisex pheromone for attracting people of both gender ) And it wasnt untill this site that I found so many diffrent types of pheromones! also thanks for the advice. 😃 I didnt really know were to put this… but about **Androstenone Fragrance Additive (AFA)- unisex ( mix of** androstenone and androstenol ) what effect it has… well I didnt notice so much yet about people around me… a few things only 1. some guy at work glaring scary at me _shudder_ 2. a girl I normally talk to… she talked ALOT more…o\_. 3. I feel better about myself… normally I feel like very insecure… but now I think im sexy when I look in the mirror… xDDD great suprise. I hardly notice the things I’m annoyed by normally. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trust-which-pheromones-help-win-back-someone-you-hurt-badly-and-is-afa-any-good/7116/7 "2007-12-04T23:06:43Z")
What about [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)? Is that still around? Seems to me that Androsterone would help a guy seem more trustworthy.