# Trying P83 for the first time: what mcg, given I already love Ammo and TUTH?

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**Created:** [March 21, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-p83-for-the-first-time-what-mcg-given-i-already-love-ammo-and-tuth/27295 "2009-03-21T23:37:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Racer3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Racer3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Racer3)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-p83-for-the-first-time-what-mcg-given-i-already-love-ammo-and-tuth/27295/1 "2009-03-21T23:37:47Z")

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Looking to try [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). What would be the best mcg to go with. I currently have AMMO, TUTH, and Honesty.  
I really love ammo and tuth and get good hits with them. Wish I knew about these years ago!

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-p83-for-the-first-time-what-mcg-given-i-already-love-ammo-and-tuth/27295/2 "2009-03-21T23:41:22Z")

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Ok, well, if you are ready to start testing [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) please remember that it’s an experimental SINGLE molecule. I tend to get putatives at 12.5 mcg the first time, as that’s the lowest dose you can get a to-go sized bottle of (5ml). 12.5mcg seems to be a good number for P83.

It will probably be harder to get a good gauge on what p83 does as it’s just one single molecule, and they put some stuff in the consumer mixes to makes the hits more noticeable.

P83 works fairly well from around 6mcg to 60mcg on average for many people. Beyond that you can use the search function to search for individual posts and reports (Highly encouraged, but going in blindly might be valuable so you don’t have a preconceived notion of what it does).

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**Author:** ![Racer3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Racer3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Racer3)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-p83-for-the-first-time-what-mcg-given-i-already-love-ammo-and-tuth/27295/3 "2009-03-22T00:03:26Z")

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Thanks for the info Marty

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**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-p83-for-the-first-time-what-mcg-given-i-already-love-ammo-and-tuth/27295/4 "2009-03-22T09:59:55Z")

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For an extra 7 dollars you can get the 30ml 5mu/spray thats what i have. it works at low doses too, and is better for mixing on your skin. considering you might want to combine it with ammo, the lower dose per spray would be better than the togo bottle for roughly the same price.