# Trying these out again... Need advice :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 30, 2014, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316 "2014-06-30T05:44:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![biomajor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@biomajor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biomajor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/1 "2014-06-30T05:44:33Z")
So i’m back after a while and want to give these another shot. I restocked with the following: TUTH 2.5 AMM Standard IJ IO A314 (old left over bottle Ive had) So with this I would like to achieve the following things: **Girl 1** : This 22 y/o and I have been talking for a little bit and we both admitted that we were into each other. No physical anything as I was trying to be more gentleman like (now i’m kicking myself). We talked and she confirmed my hypothesis that she had a really bad past relationship and although she was interested in me she freaked out about it and didn’t know what to do. So she convinced herself that she wasn’t ready to date but thinks she’ll regret it (and she will since I’m a freakin stud). Anywho, I have probably been more into her than she was into me and since we decided to forget the feelings part my goal is make this relationship a friends with benefits sort of thing. _We currently run together at night so what can I use to increase her attraction to me and allow me to move into the physical side of things._ I’m usually fairly smooth at these things but I would love the mones to help out. _Then once I get her to come over to my place (which i don’t think should be too hard) what should I use to get things even more physical without coming on to strong?_ **Girl 2** : This girl is also one that I could see hooking up with. Not much history except some good conversations and us hanging out this week. Would IJ help with this? She already knows me so I feel that if I pull the jerk out it will make me more desirable? Maybe IJ + AMMO + IO? I’m not sure how/if the A314 would work here. **Work** : I work with sick kids and their parents. _I want them to trust me._ I am also the leader of my team, I want to be seen as such (I usually do this anyway, but ill use the A314 to give me an edge). Any other tips would be great. **Social life** : Just started this new job with a lot of new people so I want to put out a good strong first impression and definitely be an alpha if possible. I do quite a bit of coffee shop studying. I’m NOT into the bar scene or clubs that much, although I do go occasionally when the girls need something to dance on. Thanks guys ya’ll are great! ---
**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 10:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/2 "2014-06-30T10:37:14Z")
**Girl 1:** A314 + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). It seems like you two already have open, truthful conversation. You want to trigger the “leader of men” attraction switches, and the -none in the Ammo will bring out her sexual side while the other ingredients in the signature cologne will steer the interaction as to “not come off to strong.” Once you’re at the crib, apply a spray of TUTH under your shirt. Some will argue this amount, find your sweet spot. She likes you for you; I wouldn’t go adding IJ now. At least wait until after a sexual relationship has been established. **Girl 2:** You’ve given no information about this girl so I’ll just suggest a different mix: IJ + IO. If you see her as a hookup, IJ is something to consider. IO will have her speaking openly, and the high -none content in IJ will steer the conversation sexually. **Work:** Definitely use A314 here. This is the perfect place; you’re the leader of your team, you want them to trust you and have a “tell me what to” vibe. If you act congruently, A314 will certainly provide this. IO will help your patients speak openly about their concerns regarding their children. Consider an IH purchase to enhance this effect. **Social life:** Ammo + IO is perfect for coffee stop studying. Ammo will have girls noticing you and will let them know you’re not just a friend. IO will lubricate conversations, and potential suitors will open about themselves easily and more often in conversation. IH would fare well here too; Ammo + IO + IH is a classic mix and would do beautifully in coffee shops. Hell, they might even approach you, which in a coffee shop isn’t too farfetched (e.g. “Excuse me, is that a good book?”, “I see you’re studying microbiology…” etc.). A314 can be considered for your everyday social life as well, and can be mixed with success to (almost) all of your products–adding IO to the mix can detract some of the more noble qualities of A314. ---
**Author:** ![biomajor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@biomajor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biomajor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/3 "2014-06-30T15:27:02Z")
Good stuff. Appreciate the response bro! ---
**Author:** ![biomajor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@biomajor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biomajor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/4 "2014-07-01T01:52:40Z")
What is the best place for IJ?? In other words, what was the image in mind when someone made that particular spray? ---
**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/5 "2014-07-01T02:46:02Z")
_“[Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/): Rough, uncivilized and rude. Someone who might kick a puppy and like it.”_ 15-30 mcg to the neck is ideal, as the self-effects are part of the “prove it to me” campaign. It’s marketed as a novelty mone. _Edit: If you’re talking location, a mall would probably be ideal; college-age girls, et al._ ---
**Author:** ![biomajor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@biomajor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biomajor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/6 "2014-07-01T04:09:01Z")
Yeah I guess i meant location. I’m considering getting instant honesty in exchange for the IJ (my order is still processing). It seems to me that since I don’t go to malls/clubs/bars very much, IJ would be of little use to me. How can I use the IH in my scenarios above? With **Girl #1** , would IH make her even more honest even though she is pretty open anyway? ---
**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/7 "2014-07-01T07:28:44Z")
> [@biomajor](#): > > Yeah I guess i meant location. I’m considering getting instant honesty in exchange for the IJ (my order is still processing). It seems to me that since I don’t go to malls/clubs/bars very much, IJ would be of little use to me. > > How can I use the IH in my scenarios above? With **Girl #1** , would IH make her even more honest even though she is pretty open anyway? You will get _much_ more mileage out of IH than IJ. IH combines well with many mones, whereas IJ overpowers much of anything you use with it. Like I said, it’s marketed as a novelty mone; a “prove it to me” mone. You certainly couldn’t wear it everyday. Beware of the powerful self effects IH provides, however. It’s responsible for many candid slips IME. ---
**Author:** ![biomajor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@biomajor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biomajor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/8 "2014-07-01T23:22:46Z")
I just replaced the IJ with IH. Hopefully it does me more good in my endeavors 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![biomajor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@biomajor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biomajor)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-these-out-again-need-advice/62316/9 "2014-07-10T04:11:39Z")
So i’m about to go on a walk with girl #1. Any advice on how much AMMO, IH, IO, and TUTH i should use? NEED THIS FAST!! Thanks guys!!!