# Trying to Create a Signature..........How Does this Sound? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 21, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197 "2008-06-21T02:33:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/1 "2008-06-21T02:33:41Z")
I just bought some A314, I like what I read about it, seems like powerful stuff. Now, I realize I’m young and this stuff is more for people in the corporate world, and some of you older guys would probably tell me “just stick with Instant Gentleman,” believe me, I’m getting some of that too, but, being the stubborn teen I am, I absolutely NEEDED to try A314. I heard that it makes you seem authoritarian, and I want to be a comfort to the ladies, so you know an [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is coming my way. I don’t want to lose any respect from other guys, so I’m thinking Instant Openness as well. To my understanding, Instant Openness weakens the effects of A314, and I don’t want that, so Instant Honesty is also a must. To top it all off, of course, I’m gonna need some Instant Shine. So 2 drops of A314 (behind ears and down on neck) 2 sprays IO (can’t OD on this?) (on each arm crank) 2 sprays Instant Honesty (MAYBE 2X version) (on each arm crank) 2 sprays Instant Female magic (on chest) 1 spray Instant Shine (on spray) This seems like it is going to cost A LOT, ESPECIALLY on a high school budget, so the IH, IO, Instant Female Magic, and Instant Shines will all be TO GO versions, already bought the A314, so all I need is the Instant Gentleman, which will act as a backup if this signature does not work as I anticipate it should Feedback? Reps greatly appreciated from other younguns who find this helpful to build their signature 😃 ---
**Author:** ![squall1212](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@squall1212](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/squall1212)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/2 "2008-06-21T03:05:17Z")
I think you are going over the top a little bit. You can save more money by choosing between just one, Instant Honesty or Instant Openness, or you can just get come Talk To Me Mix 2 which has both kinds of nols in it. As for [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), the only time you will see huge results with those is only when its that time of the month or feeling sad for whatever reason. You are correct that a social Phero such as Instant Openness can buffer the effect of A314, but thats highly recommended since A314 can cause a lot of distance between you and your target You are around my age so what I recommend based my successes are: Instant Gentlemen Instant Openness or Instant Honesty Ammo Optional: Instant Shine, Turn Up The Heat ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/3 "2008-06-21T03:11:24Z")
> [@squall1212](#): > > I think you are going over the top a little bit. You can save more money by choosing between just one, Instant Honesty or Instant Openness, or you can just get come Talk To Me Mix 2 which has both kinds of nols in it. As for Instant Female Magic, the only time you will see huge results with those is only when its that time of the month or feeling sad for whatever reason. You are correct that a social Phero such as Instant Openness can buffer the effect of A314, but thats highly recommended since A314 can cause a lot of distance between you and your target > > You are around my age so what I recommend based my successes are: > Instant Gentlemen > Instant Openness or Instant Honesty > Ammo > Optional: Instant Shine, Turn Up The Heat That is interesting insight, but [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is really a comforter, and I’m pretty sure that time of the month is just when it is MOST effective, it is still very effective any other time. Also, for you my man, I don’t recommend using Turn Up The Heat. You and I make A LOT of -none, and Turn Up The Heat is VERY easy to OD on, and, knowing about social status and status quos in high schools, the ghost effect will be VERY evident. The Ammo should do it though, one spray of that stuff, 2 if you’re feeling bold, then leave that stuff at home. People have told me to use Ammo, especially in my Hispanic dominated school, but I don’t recommend it AT ALL b/c it tends to confuse people, and guys seem to want to prove that they are a bigger man towards you and may treat you nastily. Yes, I was thinking about choosing between one or the other Instant Honesty or Instant Openness, but I heard Instant Openness helps keep guys comfortable around you with the Instant Female Magic, but it kind of weakens A314, so Instant Honesty strengthens it. Someone w/ mad reps and exp., please confirm? ---
**Author:** ![squall1212](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@squall1212](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/squall1212)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/4 "2008-06-21T03:17:14Z")
Yea I was scared to try TUTH at first. I think a lot of young guys here are scared about the OD effect so I just bought a to go bottle. I can tolerate up to 1.5 sprays of TUTH and I have gotten very obvious results using it. Its become a key phero in my arsenal when I’m out just to have some fun, have been getting more play. If you go clubbing a lot then its a must for anyone IMO. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/5 "2008-06-21T03:21:04Z")
YEAH…unfortunately, I can’t go clubbing yet…I wonder if I’m the youngest in this forum??? lol ---
**Author:** ![Vman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vman/32/1347_2.png) [@Vman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/6 "2008-06-21T04:00:22Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > YEAH…unfortunately, I can’t go clubbing yet…I wonder if I’m the youngest in this forum??? lol I am 17… So not that far away from you. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/7 "2008-06-21T04:08:40Z")
HAHA cool… I was just wondering if a mod. could come on here and tweak my signature so I can make my 2nd order??? ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/8 "2008-06-21T04:12:58Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > HAHA cool… > I was just wondering if a mod. could come on here and tweak my signature so I can make my 2nd order??? Hey, no mod can tweak you a perfect signature. Members or mod here can help you choose a product or give you advices after you tried them if you provide some goals, and difficulties in any while testing 🙂 i am 19 too, and for me I need to wear about 3 sprays of io for 1 drop of a314 to balance out the seriousness ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/9 "2008-06-21T04:20:30Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > Hey, no mod can tweak you a perfect signature. Members or mod here can help you choose a product or give you advices after you tried them if you provide some goals, and difficulties in any while testing 🙂 > > i am 19 too, and for me I need to wear about 3 sprays of Instant Openness for 1 drop of A314 to balance out the seriousness True that. I was just wondering, if it takes 3 sprays of IO to balance out the seriousness (and I do want to still seem somewhat serious, I like the alpha male feel, I don’t like that ‘can’t have fun’ feel), would it take, say, 5 if I were to use [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) so I don’t get a negative effect from other guys? Would IH even be necessary? I’m trying to save money here…lol ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/10 "2008-06-21T04:28:43Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > True that. > I was just wondering, if it takes 3 sprays of Instant Openness to balance out the seriousness (and I do want to still seem somewhat serious, I like the alpha male feel, I don’t like that ‘can’t have fun’ feel), would it take, say, 5 if I were to use Instant Female Magic so I don’t get a negative effect from other guys? Would Instant Honesty even be necessary? I’m trying to save money here…lol Well, some people didn’t get much negative results from ifm, since you know it is already buffered as a consummer product here. So you can try it and see how depressing for guys when you wear it. But I dont think io is a good buffer for ifm, ishine would be better in my opinion to fight that depressive effect of ifm 🙂 Some members here really like ih, like bosshank. I never even tried ih since I like alpha nol and try cttm, but still prefered io much better. I will probably get a to-go soon just being curious and to confirm to stick with io… but ih might work well for you 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/11 "2008-06-21T05:27:18Z")
I’m not a mod and I’m not exactly your age group anymore, but I’ll add my couple of cents. First, I want to say that you’re on the right track as far as being aware of needing buffers (you want to comfort the ladies, don’t want to lose respect from the guys, etc..), but you’ve got it a bit confused, IMO. First, combos are not zero-sum games. If you have 10mcgs of -none on and you buffer it with 10mcg of TAA, the effect isn’t as if you have 0 mcgs of pheromones on, the effect is as if you have 10 mcgs of -none and TAA. So, if you have a base of A314, adding this and that will just result in the ever common ‘phero baptism’ - which is fine, but you can develop more effective mixes by more carefully selecting and dosing your ingredients. Also, as an aside, Instant Openness won’t get you ‘respect’ from the guys. A314 on its own is supposed to do that, Instant Openness will make you seem friendlier. Again, a matter of knowing **what’s in each product as well as in what quantities**. That being said, I would recommend togos of Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine to begin with. You can leave the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) alone, there’s no need for that atm, you’d be better off with IS/Instant Honesty/Instant Openness over Instant Female Magic as a standalone. I recommend getting both IO and Instant Honesty to be able to contrast and compare Alpha Androstenol and beta-Androstenol. Keep in mind that both IO and IH contain a-nols and b-nols. The difference is the ratio between a-nols/b-nols as well as some other pheromones/fixatives I’m sure. Either way, it’s a good way to get accustomed to both nols. Instant Shine is just a great one to have and I suspect younger girls will love you for it, hell as far as I’m concerned, everyone loves it. Great for any and every occassion. I would wear IS to my damn funeral. Finally, once you get a handle on the various products and your experience with pheromones increases, I think you’ll find that while one mix might work well often, more often than not, you’ll slightly adjust a staple mix according to your/her(?) tastes that day. There’s never a ‘perfect’ mix. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/12 "2008-06-22T06:06:20Z")
Yeah I bought the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), but I think I am going to hold on that. I bought the Instant Shine 2X, and have some IO and IH left, so I’m going to experiment with them a little bit w/ and w/o the A314, let you guys know how it goes. Should I only add IFM to the mix if I’m chilling 1on1 w/ a girl, or should I just use some Ammo instead?? Thanks man, reps coming your way. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/trying-to-create-a-signature-how-does-this-sound/14197/13 "2008-06-22T16:49:24Z")
I wouldn’t use [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), as that has -none in it, which I would avoid. Since you already have IFM, it wouldn’t hurt for you to try it, but after using it a couple times, I think you’ll see why I recommended spending your money elsewhere at first. It does have ‘magical’ results in the right place, right time, and right quantity. That also goes for Ammo, if you have it, go for it and try it. But I wouldn’t rush out to buy it or anything.