# Turn up the Heat? or Pherlure? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 22, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366 "2009-02-22T02:45:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/23 "2009-02-23T05:18:10Z")
I would get ammo it has main pheros you need, some sexual pheros.and balances well with the social pheros start off with 1-2 sprays on the neck and work on your social skills and if see no results then increase maybe to 3 sprays or more but slowly oh and make sure to get [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1x strength ---
**Author:** ![Roceo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Roceo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roceo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/24 "2009-02-23T17:52:51Z")
pherlure works well after you have worn it for a while ---
**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/25 "2009-02-23T19:27:22Z")
> [@dapg01](#): > > That is exactly what pheromones will do. We say ten percent, but it isn’t a set statistic, it’s just a number the forum members use to explain that pheromones aren’t magic potions and that your personality will highly affect their effectiveness. > > For example, if you sit alone and don’t try to talk to anyone, chances are you won’t meet a girl that day. If on the other hand you find yourself being social and trying out your game, you will see better results when you wear pheromones. Probably these results will give you a success rate much better than 10% (assuming your expectations are realistic), but you do need the initial 90. > > Let’s say that it is 90% personality, pheromones will give you an extra 20% and you will have a total of 110%! I know it’s not a correct statement lol, but it helps illustrate my point. Don’t take the statistic too seriously since many statistics are not always reliable or precise, and rather are made up numbers that help illustrate a point; over 60% of people know this. Oh, I talk to girls, sometimes I’m playful, but there is a lack of attraction. Do you think AMMO will boost that? I really have no problem approaching or carrying on a conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/26 "2009-02-23T20:31:45Z")
No…it does not. And I’m getting a little tired of people associated with pherlure showing up on forums trying to scam people. > [@Roceo](#): > > pherlure works well after you have worn it for a while ---
**Author:** ![d23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/d23/32/1465_2.png) [@d23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/d23)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/27 "2009-02-23T21:30:53Z")
> [@Bonecrkr](#): > > No…it does not. > > And I’m getting a little tired of people associated with pherlure showing up on forums trying to scam people. Not entirely true can cause a placebo effect 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/28 "2009-02-23T21:45:45Z")
I guess anything is possible. There’s always that one guy who hypnotizes himself into thinking, maybe, something, is happening, I guess…but when questioned is pretty vague on the details. However, real [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) have real effects that are reliable, reproducible and, in my opinion, pretty observable. Nothing placebo about that. Pherlure has no effect that I can see. Meanwhile, the company claims it has dramatic, ridiculous effects. And when you run across “customers” who say they’ve experienced them, they turn out to be thinly disguised employees of the company. In this particular example, the person saying it works links to a “blog” that is an obvious advertisement for pherlure. That’s the part I have a real problem with…not the occassional legitimate user who thinks he may have observed “something”. > [@d23](#): > > Not entirely true can cause a placebo effect 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/29 "2009-02-24T00:17:23Z")
I can’t tell you if your game is good or not because even though being playful is usually a good thing, you have to see how girls are responding to it. Are they laughing too? Are they playful as well? If they are, you are definitely on the right track. If it is simply a matter of them not finding you attractive and seeing you just as a friend, I think ammo will give you a great advantage. It might take longer with the girls that already labeled you as a friend, but girls that you meet or don’t know you well will definitely respond to the aura the ammo is helping you project. Make sure you’re congruent with the aura and that “playful” goes hand in hand with “flirty”. You want to be playful, but not the way other girls are playful with each other. It is true that when you meet a girl you don’t want to telegraph attraction too early, but if you never telegraph any attraction then you will never get anywhere. Good luck to you, and I have a feeling that if you take the time to find your right dosage of ammo, you will see the results you want. ---
**Author:** ![LTDshred](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ltdshred/32/1416_2.png) [@LTDshred](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LTDshred)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/30 "2009-02-24T00:19:53Z")
> [@dapg01](#): > > I can’t tell you if your game is good or not because even though being playful is usually a good thing, you have to see how girls are responding to it. Are they laughing too? Are they playful as well? If they are, you are definitely on the right track. > > If it is simply a matter of them not finding you attractive and seeing you just as a friend, I think ammo will give you a great advantage. It might take longer with the girls that already labeled you as a friend, but girls that you meet or don’t know you well will definitely respond to the aura the ammo is helping you project. Make sure you’re congruent with the aura and that “playful” goes hand in hand with “flirty”. You want to be playful, but not the way other girls are playful with each other. It is true that when you meet a girl you don’t want to telegraph attraction too early, but if you never telegraph any attraction then you will never get anywhere. Yeah, attraction is my problem; all they see me is as a friend. However, I do flirt at times, but I try not to overdo it. Maybe I am a little too careful with my game. Maybe its courage or something, or I should quit gaming at school for a while and go to the mall or something. ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/31 "2009-02-24T00:31:24Z")
School can be a good place (not so much in class, but on breaks), while the mall is only good if you like to walk up to girls you don’t know and usually have other things on their mind. However, if you’re good at approaching girls and at captivating them quickly, the mall will work for you. Don’t overdo it, but be confident in your flirting and you’ll see that a lot of girls love when you flirt with them even if they don’t want to jump your bones just yet. It’s more of the doubt of thinking “Is he flirting with me?”. They love to think that you might be, but you don’t give them the satisfaction of being 100% why you are. You can let them know you find them attractive or interesting, but that doesn’t mean they hold any power over you. For example, I find lots of girls attractive, but that doesn’t mean that the first one of them that flirts with me is going to take me home! This works for me because when girls can see that I find them attractive, it only means I want us to get to know each other better, not that they have sealed the deal. Take it one step at a time and know that you deserve the girl you want, keep your options open until you find her! ---
**Author:** ![ndf424](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@ndf424](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ndf424)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/32 "2009-03-05T05:06:43Z")
I’m new here, but thought I’d drop two cents in. I think it might help the gent who started this thread. If you want to develop what dap is talking about, check out David DeAngelo’s stuff at: [Dating Advice For Men | How to Attract Women and Use Pick Up Lines](http://www.doubleyourdating.com) It helps with mindset and understanding women. Start with the free emails and then work up to his e-book and more advanced techniques. David D. has committed his life to the research of how to attract women and then keep them for the long term. I’ve got his e-book, man transformation program, and cocky comedy programs. I’m going to order his advanced program and power sexuality as soon as I get done working what I’ve learned so far into myself. So far I’ve had good success with it. A tertiary effect also is that I keep learning about other gurus of the dating world through David D. Another good one is Rob Brinded at: [Code Of The Natural](http://www.codeofthenatural.com) He has an amazing program for making your body move in sensual ways. It’s specific stretches and exercises that open up your joints, fix your posture, and assist in breathing and relaxation. It calms my mind more than yoga. It’s got a lot of little exercises to use before I go on a date that completely change my mindset and mood into what it ought to be to welcome the ladies into my world. Anyways, enough of that. One of the next steps in my personal evolution is finding me some pheremone colognes. I appreciate the honest and candid reviews here. You all saved me from buying a big wad of Pherlure a minute ago. =) Cheers! -Nate ---
**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/33 "2009-03-05T05:08:46Z")
The Pherlure site is what led me to this forum, so I’m thankful to them for that. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DarkRing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DarkRing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DarkRing)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366/34 "2009-03-05T05:48:49Z")
> [@LTDshred](#): > > Hey, I’m new to the forum, and I’ll be turning 18 soon and almost out of high school. however, i want to try a pheromone cologne that can help me give a significant edge to my game. what would you suggest would be appropriate in a high school setting? turn up the heat? or Pherlure? or anything else on Smartmones? (i heard somewhere it was a scam, so now im a bit skeptical) Turn up the heat works better. I have had more hits with turn up the heat than pherlure. Yes, I did try pherlure and it doesn’t work at all. For a cologne, it just smells nice and useless for pheromones. Research before you buy pherlure, it was too late before I found out about the product. Otherwise I would have never got it had I known. Don’t make the same mistake I did. Stay away from pherlure. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-or-pherlure/26366.md?page=1)