# turn up the heat vs ammo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 12, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083 "2007-06-12T14:19:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![qvp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c2a13f/32.png) [@qvp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qvp)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/1 "2007-06-12T14:19:52Z")
Hello. Which would you recommend for someone in their early 20’s? I went through all the posts and the product information, but I still can’t deduce which one is better even though both seem to be doing the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/2 "2007-06-12T14:35:51Z")
that depends on what effect you want, they arent the same (i havnt tested neither yet, but) turn up.. well as its name hints, its main job is to turn up the heat if there is any, i cant remember the effects ammo should have, but it should be quite different from TUTH, and works on more people then just people that your already somewhat intimate with ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/3 "2007-06-12T14:42:45Z")
[Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) is a strictly sexual product focused on androstenone. Used alone, it doesn’t fair too well in most social settings without being mixed with lighter pheromones that create a more inviting vibe. Ammunition also contains androstenone, however its well balanced with a number of other social and sexual pheromones. **Ammunition is a mix in itself** and is well suited for new users who want more immediately gratifying results, without dealing with the learning curve in mixing for yourself. Where TUTH by itself is more centered on a sexual/aggressive vibe, the mixture of pheromones in ammunition create a highly social/attractive vibe. Its very effective on its own. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/4 "2007-06-12T20:07:44Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) as it is a great all around mix AND it is very easy for someone your age to OD on TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![qvp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c2a13f/32.png) [@qvp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qvp)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/5 "2007-06-12T22:36:01Z")
so i guess i’ll get almost the same effects out of ammo and turn up the heat only ammo is less “strong”… does ammo come unscented originally or do i have to choose the option to get it unscented for $5 extra? i’ve got a bottle of cool water and am thinking about using it with the unscented unless the original stock is as good smelling as cool water! thanks guys for all the input ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/6 "2007-06-12T22:39:58Z")
i havnt smelled it, but its a well known fact that ammo has a professional created scent that should smell quite good. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/7 "2007-06-13T00:25:25Z")
Ammo’s scent is very good. Anyway IMO if you are good at opening conversations in clubs or you are good with girls, you will find more useful Turn Up The Heat, to attract, conclude moments and eliminate LMR. If you don’t have lots of experience with girls, need or prefer help with openings and first phases of flirting, buy ammo or PheroProof, they’re very good stand-alone products (Both have the same scent). ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/8 "2007-06-13T00:30:06Z")
what is pheroproof? ---
**Author:** ![xclo0sive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b487fb/32.png) [@xclo0sive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xclo0sive)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/9 "2007-06-13T00:45:55Z")
Is there a AMMO that is scentless? ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/10 "2007-06-13T00:58:01Z")
well, im sure you can get it with no added scent, but that doesnt mean that it doesnt smell of anything 🙄 EDIT ya, i just checked, for 10$ extra you can get it with no added scent ---
**Author:** ![xclo0sive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b487fb/32.png) [@xclo0sive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xclo0sive)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/11 "2007-06-13T01:13:08Z")
Where can you select to choose scentless? ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/12 "2007-06-13T01:43:28Z")
when on the shop theres a menu to the left under "**Advanced (Researchers & Serious Enthusiasts Only):"** theres at the bottem the link: “[Custom Additions](https://a314.com/)” click that link, then select “mens fragrance” choose the fragrance “unscented” and the product “ammunition” just to be clear, [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) smell like body odour, the scent is there to cover it (and do a few other things as far as i remember) you can though use your own scents if you want, but just so you know your not ordering somthing that has no smell at all. ---
**Author:** ![qvp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c2a13f/32.png) [@qvp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qvp)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/13 "2007-06-13T01:43:50Z")
[Men’s Fragrance Customization :: Custom Additions :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://a314.com/) ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/14 "2007-06-13T01:55:50Z")
> [@rollercoaster](#): > > what is pheroproof? It’s a “standalone” product (like ammo, but different) designed by Futurist (a user of this forum) and made by androtics, search the forum, you will see many posts about it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-vs-ammo/4083/15 "2007-06-13T01:57:32Z")
ok, i couldnt se it in the shop, so i guessed it wasnt androtics, then searched google, only two hits ^^