# Turning TUTH into Ammo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 16, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377 "2011-09-16T05:41:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ocd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e19b73/32.png) [@ocd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocd)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/1 "2011-09-16T05:41:39Z")
So my ammo 2x ran out and since I have a nearly full bottle of TUTH which never really worked for me + A314 and IO. I was thinking of creating my own version of ammo by adding equal amounts of TUTH, A314 and IO in an empty ammo bottle. Will it work? ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/2 "2011-09-16T06:14:06Z")
Ehhh…A314 + TUTH + IO could produce some good results but it wouldn’t be the same as Ammo. I’m not 100% sure about TUTH but A314 and IO both contain more than one ingredient so you would not only have extra [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) that aren’t contained in Ammo, the ratios would not be the same. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/3 "2011-09-16T09:07:13Z")
Don’t bother mixing it in a bottle just apply to your skin and see what happens, that way if it doesn’t have the desired effect you have not just waisted expensive product. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/4 "2011-09-16T09:08:17Z")
> [@ocd](#): > > I was thinking of creating my own version of ammo by adding equal amounts of TUTH, A314 and IO in an empty ammo bottle. Will it work? I really doubt it - [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is near equal parts of none nol and rone, wheras the mix you suggest contains a far greater variety of molecules, including very specific steering molecules you won’t find in Ammo. And personally, I’d not use A314/IO together because I find the IO weakens it too much. TUTH/IO/IG **might** be a fraction closer but it would still be a more complex beast. Personally, if I needed to moderate TUTH into something acceptable for a social situation, I would use IO or IH and IS And if TUTH isn’t working for you, have you thought properly about how you want to use it and the sort of situations you use it in. TBH, it is a far more single-minded and limited product to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/5 "2011-09-16T19:06:27Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Don’t bother mixing it in a bottle just apply to your skin and see what happens, that way if it doesn’t have the desired effect you have not just waisted expensive product. Whoops, I overlooked the fact that he mentioned mixing them directly. This would definitely be a bad idea since A314 is oil based and the other two are alcohol based. They won’t mix or spray properly. ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/6 "2011-09-16T19:30:06Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > Whoops, I overlooked the fact that he mentioned mixing them directly. This would definitely be a bad idea since A314 is oil based and the other two are alcohol based. They won’t mix or spray properly. He could Possibly have the 314 Spray Version… As He Never Stated What Version of the Product he had… ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/7 "2011-09-17T06:19:21Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I really doubt it - **Ammo is near equal parts of none nol and rone, wheras the mix you suggest contains a far greater variety of molecules, including very specific steering molecules you won’t find in Ammo**. And personally, I’d not use A314/IO together because I find the IO weakens it too much. > > TUTH/IO/IG **might** be a fraction closer but it would still be a more complex beast. > > Personally, if I needed to moderate TUTH into something acceptable for a social situation, I would use IO or IH and IS > > And if TUTH isn’t working for you, have you thought properly about how you want to use it and the sort of situations you use it in. TBH, it is a far more single-minded and limited product to begin with. I’ve been wondering about this. Doesn’t Ammo contain any steering molecules but just nol, rone and none? I know that making the mix the TS is suggesting would be something totally different than Ammo either way. Could be good or a total waste of product. Like someone else said: just try mixing it all on your skin and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turning-tuth-into-ammo/52377/8 "2011-09-17T10:00:11Z")
Not saying that your combo wouldn’t be good but it definitely wont be ammo. Ammo has 3 pheromones in it. Its simple and brilliant. Tuth has anone but over 11 other putatives. IO has anol but 2 other putatives. A314 is 80% arone but has 17 other putatives in it depending on the version you get and what they omitted because they cant obtain it. Its the steering molecules you need to be mindful of. Over or under dosing those can change the whole effect of the products. If mixing in a bottle you need single putatives. Do not mix mixes. You layer mixes. Tisha