# TUTH, AMMO, or RAW Power?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 17, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713 "2007-05-17T03:41:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713/1 "2007-05-17T03:41:13Z")
Hello again… After a little break, I’m back in full effect. I have a few things to say. 1. Classes are NOT a good place to test [pheromones](https://a314.com/), especially androstenone-containing ones. Because, as I’ve realized, girls are already nervous, flipping their hair and stuff and you can easily confuse that. After not wearing pheromones for some time, I’ve realized no wonder some girls would seem disinterested after I started talking to them…it was because they were just fidgety from the boring lecture, not my pheromones. A lot of those “signs of interest” are typical for a nervous girl sitting in a math class. 2. When I don’t wear pheromones, GIRLS ARE FRIENDLY!! Seriously, it’s been a long time since I used anything with lots of androstenone, and I gotta say, girls are A LOT more friendly! It’s like I must have been frequently OD’ing in the past but didn’t know it. 3. PHEROMONES EFFECT YOU MORE THAN YOU THINK. I’ve realized that I used to view the exact same situations differently when under the influence of pheromones versus when not. A lot of the “effects” are your own different perceptions because you’re effected by the pheromones yourself! I noticed that wearing pheromones on the back of my neck allows myself to not be effected while I try to observe the effects…and oddly, I have seen a lot less ‘effects’ since starting to do this! So…I’m kind of disappointed because PI doesn’t seem to work for me as much as I thought (on the back of neck). Seems like it was mostly effecting myself. So anyway, I want to get something again, but I want a strong androstenone. I don’t think I’ll ever have issues with OD’ing any more because 50% of the time back then, I wasn’t sober. I was high/drunk on something honestly, so that effected my delusions of thinking I smell or whatever. Now that I’m back to my confident self, I think I want something strong and effective. So… I want to hear some opinions. Which product is the most CONSISTENT? TUTH? AMMO? or RAW Power? I used to use Ammo, but again, it was to my chest and probably effected myself a lot. Since TUTH and AMMO both have the same amount of androstenone, which one do you think is better? Also, if Jasmin happens to read this…is there any IS ingredients in Ammo? If that’s the case I’ll just go with TUTH..Also, is TUTH pure androstenone, or does it have other ingredients? Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713/2 "2007-05-17T04:28:57Z")
I’d say go with ammo if u dont want it strong in none. It has the same none in it but it is buffered with other stuff to make it not really noticeable. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) ingredients r in the 1.5 ammo version i think. I ordered ammo without knowing which version i would get but i got the 1.0 version so im guessing u will get the 1.0 version if u dont ask for 1.5. as for tuth i used to spray it to my chest and the smell turns me off after a while spicy smell sorta as with ammo it is a lot better ---
**Author:** ![Flipcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/47e85d/32.png) [@Flipcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flipcat)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713/3 "2007-05-17T17:43:54Z")
So you don’t like androstenone, but you want an androstenone based product? That’s a little weird. 🙂 Why not try something else? Some of the new non-androstenone mones are really cool. ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713/4 "2007-05-17T22:55:39Z")
> [@Flipcat](#): > > So you don’t like androstenone, but you want an androstenone based product? That’s a little weird. 🙂 Why not try something else? Some of the new non-androstenone pheromones are really cool. No, I love androstenone! I just don’t like the inconsistency with what I had been using, Primal Instinct. Yeah, I decided on Ammo and [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/). I think when I read Gegogi’s post about CTTM, I just could not help but to get some. Gegogi has solid reviews, and that thread “CTTM rips” where he ranked it over SOE…wow, I just have to try it. I think with these two I can balance things out pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713/5 "2007-05-18T01:18:03Z")
Smoothplayer, If you are young ie 18-25 (and thus producing lots of 'none naturally) adding more 'none to the mix may have become overwhelming to these young college age women. If you are younger than 25 you probably ought to stick with the rounded mixes - Ammunition - or use some of the “friendly” products - [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) or maybe TAA. SOE works well too. Gegogi always has great advice and this is a repeat of advice he has given to other young bucks. And remember Gegogi, like me, is a little up there in age (I think he mentioned 50ish in a recent post) so his choice of daily products - say heavy with NPA - is based on age, ethnicity (oriental) and diet (vegetarian) which as he has stated all probably equate to low natural 'none production. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-ammo-or-raw-power/3713/6 "2007-06-06T23:49:45Z")
From what I understand Raw Power is the closest thing to Primal Instinct in terms of Androstenone content/strength. I think the primary differences may be the source of the ingredients (I think Androtics uses 100% American-made androstenone. Others may use Chinese-made.) Turn Up The Heat and Ammunition are similar except Ammo has more more of a mix of pheromones and is supposedly more “buffered.” (And different scent packages. Turn Up The Heat has a moderate “cover” scent and Ammo is designed as a full-fledged cologne product.) I think CTTM is a androstenone-free product _similar_ to Scent of Eros (a -Androstenol/-Androsterone mix), in terms of being a “socially oriented” product, but CTTM (I think) is primarily a mix of alpha- and beta- nols. Don’t recall if there is androsteRone in CTTM. Thoughts from my fried brain…