# TUTH and IG combo backfire: was 5mcg TUTH an overdose behind the accusation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Combos and Mixes\ **Created:** [October 30, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605 "2008-10-30T21:34:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/21 "2008-10-31T12:32:23Z")
> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/20): > > Gegogi and the Boss have spoken. Reps to you both. Great posts. LOL. Thanks for the vote of confidence and the reps. Most of us guys use 'none but we need to remember it is kind of a blunt instrument. So even when used well it is sort of like a blunt instrument used with finesse. Read this post by Jasmin if you have not already. She has discussed this in several posts over the last couple years … [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-these-pheros-look-legit/22242/9](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-these-pheros-look-legit/22242/2) Be sure to read the whole passage to understand her philosophy. This is kinda the meat of the discussion for this purpose: > [@Do these pheros look legit?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-these-pheros-look-legit/22242/9): > > I think all of the more responsible individuals are a little -none wary … > > Think about it. We’re very cautious with -none. We’ll use it, but label the product wisely so you know what you’re in for. (Turn Up the Heat, Instant Jerk, etc.) > > I know, in our case, we’ve had long discussions about designing consumer products to help dress up the “emotional atmosphere” of the world a bit. We’d _hate_ to see a high -none product become truly popular, because of the way it could possibly raise the “emotional temperature” of the planet (making point shorter w/each other, more hot headed, etc.). > > We’d rather give out a high androstenone / high special effect type product as a form of “proof” then steer people towards the more beneficial stuff. _ **Our planned consumer strategy so far is to** _ give a small sample of “balls to the wall” PheroBomb with Ammo, but _ **have the new Ammo be a good everyday, feel good product that spreads emotional benefits beyond the immediate vicinity of the wearer**._ In other words, the folks who run Androtics (experts with this stuff) recognize the serious “downside” to 'none. To the point that a lot of the testing they have been doing and may still be doing with MXes and putatives was/is designed to create a “new” Ammo to give you some of the same results but without 'none and its “dark” side. I would not be surprised to see that if Jasmin and company find a way to reliably create the attraction of 'none with none of its downside that we would see the use of 'none seriously curtailed or even those products that use 'none phased out but that is just me guessing … please do not run with that comment as any kind of wild rumor. This last paragraph is just me contemplating the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) future … ---
**Author:** ![yasserthekid1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yasserthekid1/32/1011_2.png) [@yasserthekid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yasserthekid1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/22 "2008-11-10T15:23:19Z")
Thanks guys for the replies… now i’ve been using the right dosis and girls are just perfectly dosed around me =D… Gegogi, indeed i have big self steem, but the ego and the attitude was for the story to actually persuade the pherousers to be careful about how much pheros they the wear… as for the case, i’m sure she overreacted my friend, otherwise i wouldn’t post this thread ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/23 "2008-11-10T22:54:00Z")
I haven’t worn IG or TUTH yet, but if I were to ever wear them (especially TUTH) I would now most definitely wear equal shots/sprays of IO and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) just to bring that friendly vibe in. Oh, and also if I was single I would never make a first move like that. Not saying that you did ANY move, but I mean in general. My motto was to always make the girl make those types of moves first unless you both felt comfortable and knew what was going to happen. I guess it’s just my pride but I usually don’t like to show a girl the time of day unless they show interest first. It would be better than me looking stupid if I were to make a first move then have it fail on me ha, ha. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/24 "2008-11-11T00:33:05Z")
This is exactly what we have been telling members about TUTH for a long time now. I am going to be rude here because for the life of me I can not find Michaels post where he says this but I know he said it cause its in my notes. AMMO since its buffered is attractive sexy mildly arousing without being “in your face” TUTH is like walking around with your dick hanging out. Tuth is for turning up the heat when your in a intimate situation with a female who has a comfort zone with you already. This is why we dont suggest wearing it in certain environments. Clubs and bars are usually sexually charged so its ok there but just like cvopulins you need to watch where you use it because it works. Tisha PS I will keep looking for his post, he says more… Tisha ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/25 "2008-11-11T02:14:33Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > TUTH is like walking around with your dick hanging out. Here it is…😛 > [@AA314 and adding more Rone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/aa314-and-adding-more-rone/46/4): > > Thanks for your questions. Yes, it definitely provides a bump in status, along with everything that means, including access to higher end people. That much is obvious to me. I always get treated like I’m dress to the nines wearing A314, even if I’m in a tshirt. I love that effect. The “downside”, if you want to call it that, is a seeming an exclusion from lower end people. I’ve noticed a little of that. “Bad” folks seem to intrinsically avoid you. I don’t know how far it’ll go. I imagine th… [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-guidence/207/5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-guidence/207/5) ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/26 "2008-11-11T05:51:33Z")
Thanks Nbully, that is one of the ones I was referring to, There is another where he explains the differences between AMMO and TUTH it was actually kinda funny because it was out of character for him. I will still look for it but you provided two excellant ones to look at. Maybe its in the archive’s Tisha ---
**Author:** ![yasserthekid1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yasserthekid1/32/1011_2.png) [@yasserthekid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yasserthekid1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/27 "2008-11-18T19:07:39Z")
Tisha, you’re awesome =)) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605.md?page=1)