# TUTH and IG combo backfire: was 5mcg TUTH an overdose behind the accusation?

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**Category:** Combos and Mixes\
**Created:** [October 30, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605 "2008-10-30T21:34:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-ig-combo-backfire-was-5mcg-tuth-an-overdose-behind-the-accusation/23605/19 "2008-10-31T09:23:44Z")

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> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/1):
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> I received a call from the Dean of Students at my college to talk to me about an issue.
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> So the bitch to the Dean that she wanted me to stay away from her or she was gonna press worse issues on me..
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> So yeah buddies, if you don’t wanna be in a position like mine, keep your TUTH and IG dosis low.

> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/3):
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> yeah dude, I never thought Instant Gentleman would fail me like that…

> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/4):
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> maybe the fact that my TUTH is 5mgc was the reason of that OD

A couple things:

first - a lot of colleges take any form of sexual harassment or misconduct seriously. At least they take harassment and sexual misconduct by _guys_ seriously to the point they consider you guilty upon accusation and you have to prove you are innocent as opposed to someone actually having to prove/demonstrate you did something. Just check the news carefully and you will see this happens more than most people are aware … so you guys in college need to take the accusation seriously … Gegogi alludes to this in his comments.

Second - you hit it - the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) was fine but the 'none was too high. You probably only needed half of that at most.

Third - when you _know_ - when you can tell your 'none doses are making women nervous - _smile_, _be friendly_, _avoid jokes_ or anything that can be taken as innuendo - _but keep your distance_. If you look in my post that was mentioned I kept my distance from the one lady who seemed put off by the 'none - about 6 feet to be safe. All I would do is smile, nod hello, say hello, how are you, having fun? - that kinda thing. It will not take much as you have seen for something to happen - your actions or words - for them to misinterpret. Or to make a boyfriend get aggressive. I know there was no boyfriend in this case but it is worth the mention. Trust me on this. Please.

The final thing to consider is that a lot of the more experienced users trend away from 'none - they kinda cut down on the 'none and often use other products - P93, etc. - to get the same effect but without the downside of the 'none - hostile guys and nervous women. If you look at some of the mixes - say Steve’s 1a and 1b mix - you will see this. The 1a mix has 'none but it is very well buffered.

> [@Robbie](#):
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> Keep in mind that Bosshank is in his mid-forties, so he can handle that spray of TUTH in his mix.
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> I don’t think Instant Gentleman failed you so much as TUTH works a little too well with your natural mones. 🙂

Exactly - the Instant Gentleman was fine but go much lower on the none.

> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/8):
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> It actually reminds me of a situation I had a month ago with this same combo. I actually only had 2.5 mg of TUTH on with 3 sprays on Intsant Gentlemen. I was in Alabama performing for a show, after the show a woman who was one of the promoters wanted to take me around town and hang out a little bit before I had to fly out early that morning. Well all was going at first but then I noticed that she started getting distant. I immediately assumed she was having a reaction to the none. I told her I was going to turn in but she insisted I stay. I did stay but she was really distant and nervous around me. I again told her I was going to turn in for the night. She came up to me gave me a hug and then commented that I smelled good. I asked her did she want to smell me some more in a joking way. She then got really mad and said to not ever speak to her again. … but this was the first I ever got the creepy dude experience.

I go back to my earlier comment - keep your distance - I know she initiated the hug - but _carefully_ choose your words and avoid jokes or anything that can be taken as innuendo. Keep it very friendly and non-sexual.

> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/11):
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> I was told by some of the people she worked with that she was funny anyway and to not really associate with her. This was after the fact though. I guess she has some issues when it comes to men. I’m fine with that, I just wish I would’ve known so I could’ve been more cautious and not have worn none around her.

Exactly - you never know what could be going on - wrong time of the month for 'none, past issues with men - and as Gegogi pointed out - sometimes we guys are not as sensitive or aware of things as we should be - so when you sense they are getting uncomfortable around the none - just be friendly and cautious with your words with them …

> [@Turn Up the Heat and Instant Gentleman led to a sexual harassment accusation](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/turn-up-the-heat-and-instant-gentleman-led-to-a-sexual-harassment-accusation/22298/18):
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> I work for a major university system …
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> Now if the OP’s story is accurate, obviously she overreacted. But I’m sure there’s more to this situation than he’s letting on and/or understands. What was the conversation about? Politics? Sex? Race? [or other hot button topics] Was the OP acting cocky, loud, overbearing and basically wearing out his welcome? After all, it was the vic’s home and a guest should be mindful of the host’s beliefs and sensitivities. I’ve seen similar problems many times in student group projects and usually the guy is clueless he’s offensive or acting like an ass. Sometimes it’s an innocent cultural clash of values. However, the OP knew damn well she was uncomfortable or unset and yet violated her personal space. And, judging from his large ego and attitude, he didn’t take the situation seriously, hence the dean’s threat of further action.

Gegogi has been at this a while. He works at a university and sees you young folks in action all the time. And believe it or not we old folks actually do catch on to what is going on around us every now and then so please mark his words carefully … OP may or may not have done something but Gegogi is right - we guys tend to be a little brash and often not as aware of the situation around us as we should. I know I was more perceptive than most of my peers but looking back I realized I often missed the equivalent of freight trains rumbling by …

But again - when the ladies get uncomfortable because of the 'none - get outside that 6 foot personal space cone and stay friendly.

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