# TUTH and P83 together **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 7, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047 "2008-07-07T09:00:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/1 "2008-07-07T09:00:22Z")
This weekend, my GF and me had our weekly Saturday Night Sexion. I decided to try something before we started. I wanted to try if [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)´s lack of inhibition effect was right. I must say it is! 🙂 I’m a happy owner of a P83 30 ml bottle with 10 mcg per spray. I applied 5 sprays of it (50 mcg total) and two sprays of TUTH (just to lead the supossed lack of inhibition). Sex was fantastic, I would say the sensations were amplified, as if the whole body was a sexual organ. The body hair bristled to her and desire increased with time. When we finished she told me she had the most intense and long orgasm ever! This experience was really good! ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/2 "2008-07-07T09:08:51Z")
Good report there, Tyler. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) + TUTH. Good idea ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/3 "2008-07-07T09:34:17Z")
If you have it, next time add in P79 as well. P79 sex is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/4 "2008-07-07T09:38:20Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > If you have it, next time add in P79 as well. P79 sex is amazing. Unforunately I haven’t P79…yet. It is in my wishlist and it won’t be long on it. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/5 "2008-07-07T10:47:38Z")
Hey Tyler i like that your doing with tuth…and im very interested to see how your experiments go with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Congratulations! ---
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/6 "2008-07-07T11:16:06Z")
> [@flaming](#): > > Hey Tyler i like that your doing with Turn Up The Heat…and im very interested to see how your experiments go with P83 > > Congratulations! I’m just a little grasshopper in your hands, flaming 😃 . I’m following your wise advice trying to grow up in my relationship with pheros. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/7 "2008-07-07T12:16:31Z")
> [@TylerDurden](#): > > This weekend, my GF and me had our weekly Saturday Night Sexion. I decided to try something before we started. I wanted to try if P83´s lack of inhibition effect was right. I must say it is! 🙂 I’m a happy owner of a P83 30 ml bottle with 10 mcg per spray. I applied 5 sprays of it (50 mcg total) and two sprays of Turn Up The Heat (just to lead the supossed lack of inhibition). Sex was fantastic, I would say the sensations were amplified, as if the whole body was a sexual organ. The body hair bristled to her and desire increased with time. When we finished she told me she had the most intense and long orgasm ever! This experience was really good! Me like. 😛 Rep-amondoooooooos! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/8 "2008-07-07T13:10:50Z")
We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. P79 is an interesting one, too. I’m not sure more of that in TUTH would be good. It’s tougher consideration. It might make make TUTH too intense, especially for those that can only use 1 spray as is. What do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/9 "2008-07-07T13:33:07Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of P83 to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. > > What do you guys think? I’ve been testing with combining SteveO’s ICM 1a (Androstenone based) and 1b (P83 based) mixes the last couple of nights, except with a much higher concentration of P83. I have been wearing 3 sprays of each mix, but with the P83 bumped from 15 mcg’s to 75 mcg’s. The mix seems to reduce initial sexual tension and provide the fun-flirty-touchy-feely aspect of P83, but still becomes quite sexual. I think P83 could make a great addition to [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), if it’s not already a component of the new Ammo test mixes or retail product. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/10 "2008-07-07T13:39:06Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of P83 to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. > > P79 is an interesting one, too. I’m not sure more of that in Turn Up The Heat would be good. It’s tougher consideration. It might make make TUTH too intense, especially for those that can only use 1 spray as is. > > What do you guys think? Definitely yes to the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I have had mixed results with P79 although in all honesty the “no results” could have been due to outisde or other influences. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/11 "2008-07-07T14:10:59Z")
I’ve not tried my p83 with none yet but I plan on doing. I read that none and p83 don’t work well together but guessing from my p83 reactions and none reactions combining the two would be stellar. ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/12 "2008-07-07T14:57:56Z")
I don’t think it should be added. For one, it’d make the younger crew a lot more sensitive to Turn Up The Heat (I’m lucky enough to have 7.5 mcg none as my sweet spot at the night scene, but many others have less of a 'none tolerance), and in addition it’d increase agitation potential by 10 folds. Don’t get me wrong, the two together are GREAT in two situations: A.) Being older, and using a lot of none to begin with B.) It’s late at night, your girlfriend’s around, and you know you’re going to have sex. Outside of that, I think it’d throw the versatility off, and make Turn Up The Heat even more exclusive to certain situations than ever. The [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) causes irritation in a lot of children and at times older folk, and even though kids aren’t around at clubs and such.. you do have to be careful with its use even at wine-n-dines. At higher doses it causes irritation to the people around you too. I’ve always believed in one rule; if you’re not guaranteed sex that night, don’t mix P83 and 'none together : P. But if you do decide to add it, I’d recommend it be lower than the androstenone, at least that way the mix would be more universal and have less agitation potential. Then again, I’m just one person with one opinion. P.S. As you’ve stated, P79 wouldn’t be a good addition to Turn Up The Heat. In this case, more like an anti-buffer by amplifying aggression. EDIT: I strongly suggest making it an MX if P83 is seriously being considered to be added to Turn Up The Heat. That way we can atleast test it more thoroughly. > [@Jasmin](#): > > We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of P83 to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. > > P79 is an interesting one, too. I’m not sure more of that in Turn Up The Heat would be good. It’s tougher consideration. It might make make TUTH too intense, especially for those that can only use 1 spray as is. > > What do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![big\_guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f07891/32.png) [@big\_guns](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_guns)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/13 "2008-07-07T15:51:41Z")
> [@TylerDurden](#): > > This weekend, my GF and me had our weekly Saturday Night Sexion. I decided to try something before we started. I wanted to try if P83´s lack of inhibition effect was right. I must say it is! 🙂 I’m a happy owner of a P83 30 ml bottle with 10 mcg per spray. I applied 5 sprays of it (50 mcg total) and two sprays of Turn Up The Heat (just to lead the supossed lack of inhibition). Sex was fantastic, I would say the sensations were amplified, as if the whole body was a sexual organ. The body hair bristled to her and desire increased with time. When we finished she told me she had the most intense and long orgasm ever! This experience was really good! > [@Pheraoh](#): > > If you have it, next time add in P79 as well. P79 sex is amazing. I’ve used these on occasion, using 50 mcgs each P83 and P79 and two sprays Turn Up The Heat. For me they do exactly what these guys have posted. Very Intense. Add a little [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and things get interesting also. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/14 "2008-07-07T17:50:55Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of P83 to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. > > P79 is an interesting one, too. I’m not sure more of that in Turn Up The Heat would be good. It’s tougher consideration. It might make make TUTH too intense, especially for those that can only use 1 spray as is. > > What do you guys think? No to P79. That whole coming on too strong perception in some cases would be worsened. It’s good for relationship situations for great sex, but I think for other applications it wouldn’t be as consistent. Then again, TUTH outside of relationship use can be so hit or miss it probably wouldn’t be so bad. Maybe do some MX editions of TUTH with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) + P79, TUTH with P83, and TUTH with P79, and see what happens with feedback. ---
**Author:** ![FunkJunk2007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f6c823/32.png) [@FunkJunk2007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FunkJunk2007)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/15 "2008-07-07T18:34:17Z")
I’ve had good results with p83 and tuth. It also depends on how long have U and yo girlfriend been 2gether…I think ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/16 "2008-07-07T23:25:35Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > Maybe do some MX editions of **Turn Up The Heat with P83 + P79** , **TUTH with P83** , and TUTH with P79, and see what happens with feedback. Repo-mondo, Pheroah! I would be interested in those editions as a MX package … and will post as well. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/17 "2008-07-08T09:10:02Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of P83 to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. > > P79 is an interesting one, too. I’m not sure more of that in Turn Up The Heat would be good. It’s tougher consideration. It might make make Turn Up The Heat too intense, especially for those that can only use 1 spray as is. > > What do you guys think? Perhaps you could package it as “TUTH Plus” with salescopy reflecting the additions and maybe a warning to people who are already sensitive to regular TUTH? It’s funny, I’ve got both [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and TUTH and never thought to combine them. I just figured P83 was sexual but less aggressive than -none and was good for those situations where -none would come on too strong. Oh good lord… I’m already cooking up a new strip club mix in my head. Someone slap me, please! (said while hiding his 50 mcg/spray bottle of P79) -D4 ---
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/18 "2008-07-08T09:22:16Z")
Can’t wait to read your results data ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/19 "2008-07-08T13:54:48Z")
> [@big\_guns](#): > > I’ve used these on occasion, using **50 mcgs each P83 and P79 and two sprays Turn Up The Heat**. For me they do exactly what these guys have posted. Very Intense. Add a little Instant Female Magic and things get interesting also. 😃 Knowing that definitions vary from person-to-person, what’s your definition of **INTENSE** , BG? What do you find [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) doing to the mix? Thankya! > [@FunkJunk2007](#): > > I’ve had **good results with** **p83 and Turn Up The Heat**. It also depends on how long have U and yo girlfriend been 2gether…I think If I may … your product strengths (mcgs per spray) and what do you call **good results**? What was you mcgs per spray and ratios FJ? Thank you, too! **SLAP!** That’s for DATA. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![allafs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@allafs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allafs)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/20 "2008-07-08T14:13:53Z")
Hello everyone, I am a 35 year old male who is engaged to me married at the beginning of next year. My fiance and I have been going through a serious drought in bed. It has been about 6/7 months since we last had sex. We had a serious talk and she isnt sure why her sex drive seems to be completly gone. Ive done some research and found that running reduces testaterone in the body which lowers sexual libido. I dont know whats wrong and she doesnt either. Can anyone tell give me advice on what pheramone can help if any. PLEASE give me serious advice because I dont want to end up getting left at the alter because I cant arouse my fiance. Thanks in advance. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047.md?page=2)