# TUTH and P83 together **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 7, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047 "2008-07-07T09:00:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![big\_guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f07891/32.png) [@big\_guns](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_guns)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/21 "2008-07-08T19:15:47Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Knowing that definitions vary from person-to-person, what’s your definition of **INTENSE** , BG? > > What do you find Instant Female Magic doing to the mix? > > Thankya! > > If I may … your product strengths (mcgs per spray) and what do you call **good results**? > > What was you mcgs per spray and ratios FJ? > > Thank you, too! > > **SLAP!** That’s for DATA. 😛 Intense, I really don’t know how to put it into words, but it was enjoyable. Maybe I could say our feelings were magnified. The [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) always seems to make things a little easier. My wife relaxes and is more receptive to my ideas and request.😉 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/22 "2008-07-08T20:12:21Z")
> [@allafs](#): > > Hello everyone, I am a 35 year old male who is engaged to me married at the beginning of next year. My fiance and I have been going through a serious drought in bed. It has been about 6/7 months since we last had sex. We had a serious talk and she isnt sure why her sex drive seems to be completly gone. Ive done some research and found that running reduces testaterone in the body which lowers sexual libido. I dont know whats wrong and she doesnt either. Can anyone tell give me advice on what pheramone can help if any. PLEASE give me serious advice because I dont want to end up getting left at the alter because I cant arouse my fiance. Thanks in advance. I know this is not going to go well, but … it’s not your job to arouse your fiance … but you can help \, but it sounds like something’s missing from her thought processs. As with most relationships … time is a theif! 😠 I hear people say how much they’re in love, but there’s no sex. To me, how can you love someone and not want them? I often question people’s definition/meaning of love 🆒 , and to me, it’s a generic brand of love. 🙄 As for the pheromones … you might as well start with the basics AMMO - _I’m it and you could want it_, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) - _relaaaaaax it’s okay_, Turn Up The Heat - _fire down below!_, Instant Openness - _conversation is always healthy_, IS - _I feel good !_, and maybe Instant Honesty - "_tell me what you’re thinking"_ if there’s some hidden issues that are not on the table. The products are not guaranteed to fix your problems, BUT … it sure can add some spice to the norm. Good luck, and hang in there! And if she leaves you at the alter … GENERIC. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/23 "2008-07-08T21:30:11Z")
> [@allafs](#): > > My fiance and I have been going through a serious drought in bed. It has been about 6/7 months since we last had sex. We had a serious talk and she isnt sure why her sex drive seems to be completly gone. I have a friend who went through the same thing after his wife had twins. She always had an excuse for not wanting to have sex, and it nearly cost them their marriage. She finally went to a physician, who checked her hormone levels, and I can’t remember whether it was her estrogen level or some other hormone, but she was naturally producing very little of it. He put her on some prescription and things got back to normal pretty quickly. M&M gave you good advice on the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) front. Here’s another possible solution: [Female Sexual Enhancement Patch. Increase Female, Male Sex Drive. Scentuelle Libido Patch](http://www.scentuellepatch.com/index.asp) ---
**Author:** ![allafs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@allafs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allafs)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/24 "2008-07-08T22:47:46Z")
Mark-in-Dallas, you are a God send. You are the 4th person that has told me that it could be something hormonal. Which is what I kind of suspected in the first place. I know its not for sure yet but with the amount of people that thought it might be as soon as I gave the symptoms it definetly seems to be a posibility. Especially since she has been training for and run a couple of marathons. Ive read up and it seems that people that train hard (and she does) have about 60-70% of the testasterone of normal people and that has an effect on the libido. Im going to have to find a way to get her to the doctor to have herself checked out. AT LEAST IF ITS NOT THAT… we can rule it out and find out where the issure really lies. Thanks for you your answers! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/25 "2008-07-09T00:16:14Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Here’s another possible solution: [Female Sexual Enhancement Patch. Increase Female, Male Sex Drive. Scentuelle Libido Patch](http://www.scentuellepatch.com/index.asp) Have you used or know anyone that has used Scentuelle with success, MarkyD? :o Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/26 "2008-07-09T02:26:26Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Have you used or know anyone that has used Scentuelle with success, MarkyD? :o > > Thanks! Actually, I have not. But, I became aware of the Scentuelle patch from a post in the forum by Visionary, and thought I would pass the information along. Here are 2 links where he mentions the patch. > [@Could the Scentuelle libido patches be worn as perfumes/pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/could-the-scentuelle-libido-patches-be-worn-as-perfumes-pheromones/1978): > > [Scentuelle is a libido boosting patch developed by none other than the great Scottish [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) expert, Dr. George Dodd, of Xcite, Pheromol Factor and PheroFragrances fame. Scentuelle contains molecules developed by Dodd that are said to mimic the effects of dopamine, a neurotransmitter directly involved in mood, motivation, excitment, and sex drive. \*\* I wonder if it is possible to some how extract the contents of the Scentuelle libido patches onto the skin to be used as a ‘perfume’/’pheromon… [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-l-e-test-units-wanted/834](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-l-e-test-units-wanted/834) ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/27 "2008-07-09T07:25:54Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > **SLAP!** That’s for DATA. 😛 …thanks. :o -D4 ---
**Author:** ![TylerDurden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tylerdurden/32/2411_2.png) [@TylerDurden](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TylerDurden)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/28 "2008-07-09T15:31:42Z")
Hey Mark! WIth a car like yours, who needs pheros? 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Muffinzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Muffinzilla](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muffinzilla)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/29 "2012-04-24T22:37:23Z")
Interesting, cool stuff man, I’m gonna be trying [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) like this pretty soon… I’m just finishing some more research first ---
**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/30 "2012-04-25T17:02:11Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > We’ve been thinking about adding a good amount of P83 to Turn Up The Heat, so this report really helps! From what we know, there’s not much harm that could come from the addition. Especially if we kept it low. Perhaps an amount equal to the amount of androstenone. > > P79 is an interesting one, too. I’m not sure more of that in TUTH would be good. It’s tougher consideration. It might make make TUTH too intense, especially for those that can only use 1 spray as is. > > What do you guys think? I think [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) makes the perfect compliment to TUTH or vice versa. I have tried P79 with TUTH, but I found that P83, and TUTH combined gave me some really good sessions in bed. It also somehow gets my wife going. I think tonight I’ll try all 3 together. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047/31 "2012-04-25T18:03:30Z")
There was one time I was hanging with this girl. I wore Tuth and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I remember her explicitly starting to talk about sex. Very blunt questions too. We were riding in my car too. Funny, because she didn’t seem uncomfortable at all. I was wearing 2 sprays of tuth. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-and-p83-together/15047.md?page=1)