# TUTH Immunity... Is it possible? How to conteract it!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 18, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693 "2010-10-18T04:27:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/1 "2010-10-18T04:27:51Z")
Ok, in one of my orders, I was sent a gift of TUTH togo (Thanks again AD! AD is GREAT!!!) I have tried out TUTH fearing it’s effects… so I took it slow…I wasn’t looking to OD from the get go… 😃 And just to test the mones out, I DID NOT try to initiate during these times… I have tried it on the evenings where I thought things would go well, she was relaxed, having fun. BUT, when I applied 1x TUTH, nothing but a peck on the check and that’s it. Next evening when the time looked right as well, I applied 2x TUTH, and was expecting to be jumped, BUT, a good night to you and that’s it! So, several days later, I waited again for the evening when I thought things looked right (maybe what I think is right, isn’t?), relaxed, happy, good convo, BUT with 3x TUTH, got the same treatment!!! A couple of days later, I thought, DAMMIT, this TUTH HAS to WORK!!! I applied 4x TUTH, was a little more suggestive, but got SHOT down again!!! Maybe she is IMMUNE to the TUTH?!? 😮 BTW, I also tried it with IO the last time…She’s in her early 40’s, BTW. I guess I can try IJ or AMMO next time I order, see if that makes her crazy!!! ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/2 "2010-10-18T04:42:19Z")
> [@foneguy9](#): > > Ok, in one of my orders, I was sent a gift of TUTH togo (Thanks again AD! AD is GREAT!!!) > I have tried out TUTH fearing it’s effects… so I took it slow…I wasn’t looking to OD from the get go… 😃 > > And just to test the mones out, I DID NOT try to initiate during these times… > > I have tried it on the evenings where I thought things would go well, she was relaxed, having fun. BUT, when I applied 1x TUTH, nothing but a peck on the check and that’s it. > > Next evening when the time looked right as well, I applied 2x TUTH, and was expecting to be jumped, BUT, a good night to you and that’s it! > > So, several days later, I waited again for the evening when I thought things looked right (maybe what I think is right, isn’t?), relaxed, happy, good convo, BUT with 3x TUTH, got the same treatment!!! > > I thought, DAMMIT, this TUTH HAS to WORK!!! I applied 4x TUTH, was a little more suggestive, but got SHOT down again!!! > > Maybe she is IMMUNE to the TUTH?!? 😮 BTW, I also tried it with IO the last time…She’s in her early 40’s, BTW. > > I guess I can try IJ or AMMO next time I order, see if that makes her crazy!!! Early 40’s? Thats the age where they get more -none tolerant… which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it. Now seeing as I don’t know more details on exactly how you got shot down, I don’t know for sure, but it doesn’t sound to me like you’ve OD’d yet, and a lot of people when first trying tuth can’t tell the difference between too much and not enough. It can be a subtle difference. But also, applying more may help increase the attraction, but I think you probably already have more than you think there, and that more likely than not she is waiting for you to make a move. That’s just my opinion of course, and I can’t tell too well from this small bit, but if I were you I would try making a move if she is slightly more suggestive. Just my thoughts. Some of them jump on you, some of them want extremely badly to be jumped upon, but won’t jump unless an almost supernatural force is propelling them. Sounds to me like she’s waiting for you. Either way, best of luck to you, Flight edit: oh and btw, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) actually has less none in it, and can in some regards be considered less potent… both in good and bad ways though, so for a young kid like me I find it to be more potent simply because I don’t automatically start OD’ing with just half a spray. The steerer’s are different too… and that becomes more obvious to me every time I use AMMO. TUTH is freaking strong/creepy stuff in the vibe it gives off, ammo is much smoother. So if you think its because you’re giving off slightly the wrong vibe, try a lil ammo with your tuth, but I have a feeling you are giving off just the right vibe, but not working with it right. TUTH gives off the vibe that you’re a jumper, so she’s probably using that vibe in her thoughts to rationalize her waiting for you to make a move if thats what she’s doing. IJ for me gives off a slightly different vibe than TUTH… in fact I actually find it to be a more publicly tolerable vibe surprisingly. You should try it! I think you’ll be intrigued as to the differences between what you think you’ll get and what you do with each and every product, at least I have for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/3 "2010-10-18T04:54:38Z")
> [@flight](#): > > Early 40’s? Thats the age where they get more -none tolerant… which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it. Now seeing as I don’t know more details on exactly how you got shot down, I don’t know for sure, but it doesn’t sound to me like you’ve OD’d yet, and a lot of people when first trying tuth can’t tell the difference between too much and not enough. It can be a subtle difference. But also, applying more may help increase the attraction, but I think you probably already have more than you think there, and that more likely than not she is waiting for you to make a move. That’s just my opinion of course, and I can’t tell too well from this small bit, but if I were you I would try making a move if she is slightly more suggestive. Just my thoughts. Some of them jump on you, some of them want extremely badly to be jumped upon, but won’t jump unless an almost supernatural force is propelling them. Sounds to me like she’s waiting for you. > > Either way, best of luck to you, > Flight Thanks Flight! I had a notion that the TUTH would be a ‘man, I’m getting hot all over’ feeling from her! But, the last time, I was somewhat more suggestive and got more of a let’s just cuddle response. I was looking for the fireworks, thunderbolts and lightening, very frighting, brace yourself, response. 4x TUTH seems to be excessive from others posts, but since I don’t have a personal frame of reference on its use, well, I could always try 5? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/4 "2010-10-18T05:01:30Z")
> [@foneguy9](#): > > Ok, in one of my orders, I was sent a gift of TUTH togo (Thanks again AD! AD is GREAT!!!) > I have tried out TUTH fearing it’s effects… so I took it slow…I wasn’t looking to OD from the get go… 😃 > > And just to test the mones out, I DID NOT try to initiate during these times… > > I have tried it on the evenings where I thought things would go well, she was relaxed, having fun. BUT, when I applied 1x TUTH, nothing but a peck on the check and that’s it. > > Next evening when the time looked right as well, I applied 2x TUTH, and was expecting to be jumped, BUT, a good night to you and that’s it! > > So, several days later, I waited again for the evening when I thought things looked right (maybe what I think is right, isn’t?), relaxed, happy, good convo, BUT with 3x TUTH, got the same treatment!!! > > I thought, DAMMIT, this TUTH HAS to WORK!!! I applied 4x TUTH, was a little more suggestive, but got SHOT down again!!! > > Maybe she is IMMUNE to the TUTH?!? 😮 BTW, I also tried it with IO the last time…She’s in her early 40’s, BTW. > > I guess I can try IJ or AMMO next time I order, see if that makes her crazy!!! The pill is TUTH’s mortal enemy. Its not for sure that this is the issue with this particular woman but it is a feasible notion. Otherwise she can be one of those women that responds more to mental stimulations and foreplay and is very reserved and controlled in her “actions” ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/5 "2010-10-18T05:11:04Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > The pill is TUTH’s mortal enemy. Its not for sure that this is the issue with this particular woman but it is a feasible notion. Otherwise she can be one of those women that responds more to mental stimulations and foreplay and is very reserved and controlled in her “actions” Hey, didn’t know the Pill was that detrimental to TUTH! Thanks for that tidbit! She is not on the pill, for sure! And I would agree with your statement’ on mental stimulation required and reserved. Guess there are always exceptions to the TUTH… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/6 "2010-10-18T05:18:07Z")
> [@foneguy9](#): > > Hey, didn’t know the Pill was that detrimental to TUTH! Thanks for that tidbit! > She is not on the pill, for sure! And I would agree with your statement’ on mental stimulation required and reserved. > > Guess there are always exceptions to the TUTH… ☹ Didn’t know about the pill either, but it totally makes sense. And yes I was a bit dissappointed when I found out how little usefulness it had for me too, but I wouldn’t be too down. Everyone has their turn on’s, you just have to find the right vibe for them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/7 "2010-10-18T05:29:50Z")
Also remember that [pheromones](https://a314.com/) are not really fishing with dynamite - you still need to be aware that each person is different and also she just may not have been into you that way. It is also possible that she was extremely tolerant and her body chemistry was just wrong for TUTH, like everybody else said. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/8 "2010-10-18T05:52:47Z")
> [@flight](#): > > Didn’t know about the pill either, but it totally makes sense. > > And yes I was a bit dissappointed when I found out how little usefulness it had for me too, but I wouldn’t be too down. Everyone has their turn on’s, you just have to find the right vibe for them. Well the pill in a sense gets rid of the whole cycle aspect. Women react the best to enone when their ovulating. I didn’t know any of that when I starting mones so I thought blasting myself with TE everyday would be okay. I was more than wrong as I found out considering I ended up having fights with women that I wasn’t so great with and their period + my enone was o so lovely a combo. ---
**Author:** ![thundercat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thundercat/32/2345_2.png) [@thundercat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thundercat)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/9 "2010-10-18T06:21:12Z")
Shes on the pill. EDIT: Afew people have already said this. I noticed with my girlfriend; 80% of the time TUTH really doesn’t effect her, well it does but not in the intended direction it’s pretty hard to explain. 15% she seems to get pretty horny, but then again i couldn’t tell you 100% if this was TUTH related or just normal interaction as alot of you out there who are in a “Attraction based” relationship will know what im talking about ;] 5% of the time its pretty bad with her being real “catty” with me , Although not as bad as [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) lol If you play your cards right you can turn this into some real fiesty sex, Weird thing is though once my girlfriend told me “You’re real dodgy, im sure your sleeping around on me” amd just started to literally rip me apart verbally and emotionally. Once a few days passed she told me how weird she felt that night, Aparntly she felt pretty angry towards me and i was giving off a bad vibe as if i was just using her for sex loll ---
**Author:** ![ppHamelin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pphamelin/32/758_2.png) [@ppHamelin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ppHamelin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/10 "2010-10-18T09:16:48Z")
Do you get hits from others with the same TUTH from that bottle? It could have gotten bad or reduced in effectiveness. I have a bunch of TUTH from free gifts & from the 30ml. The TOGO one happens to be bad (didn’t get much hits of it but I got hits from other bottles). Probably because that one got exposed to mildly warm temp of my bathroom. Btw, I don’t know how feasible it is in your case, but it’s nice to have mone "benchmark"s to see if the mones are doing anything. Currently I have 3 consistent benchmarks for A314, Tuth & IS (the rest are harder). It works best with people who you know and interact regularly. Basically notice something different when you wear the mones and when you are not wearing it around them. There’s a consistent behavior shift or hit that you might or might not get (note not all ppl are good subject). If you can find that hit, you can use it as a benchmark for the mone. Say for TUTH, one of my female friend ALWAYS plays with her necklaces when I’m about 2 feet away and stares her right on the eye. She does this sub consciously but I pick up on that. This happens consistently whenever I wear TUTH (except when I used that TOGO bottle and thats how I noticed). Note that the opposite should also be true, when you are not wearing any of those mones, those ppl should not show any of the “hits” you are getting. ---
**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/11 "2010-10-18T09:20:00Z")
Hey foneguy. Have you gone in the other direction? Instead of 4X times; try 1/2 spray. ODG ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/12 "2010-10-18T19:09:16Z")
Yeah, here is a post from another thread that I generated: _About finding my sweet spot with the mones , I have this clip from Rad :_ _**Your General Sweet Spot (the level at which you get the best reactions, and the best consistency of reactions) Your Specialized Sweet Spot (the pheromones , quantities and ratios at which you get the best results with a particular person)**_ _So, I can check my application to GSS or SSS!!!_ Basically, I’m looking at a very SSS! I don’t know what the effects of TUTH as a GSS, as I haven’t tried it with that in mind. I tried 6x of TUTH and was given a not in the mood response. Though, during the day, had been fooling around some. So, basically, TUTH is a bust in this test! I’ll have to check out other products such as AMMO and IJ to see if I get any reaction. Again, this is a SSS, not an General Sweet Spot search for a reaction. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/13 "2010-10-25T20:39:19Z")
Well, Ok, I wanted to update this thread as well! I thought about this some and decided to put on the fireplace, get a light dinner ready, and have a chick flick A had been looking forward to seeing. Told her I had an evening for 2 planned and to get home quick! She was pleasantly surprised and she got comfy and we spent the evening together in front of the fireplace, eating some dinner, popcorn for the movie, and just relaxing! During this time, got kino and indications that she was ready and needless to say, things got hot and heavy that night. So, I was hoping AMMO or IJ would be the ticket but at this time, it was my usual sexual tool, da brains, to think about how to win her over!!! I hadn’t gotten my AMMO yet, which was my next in line to test. NO MONES applied that evening! I was thinking that in the SSS (A’s specific case) much has to do with your attitude, environment, her feelings. Mones could have been screaming ‘let’s do it!’ but other variables weren’t conducive to it happening. A isn’t much into the romance, is more of an analytical kind of gal, but you get to her with what relaxes her, then the outcome is more likely assured!!! ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/14 "2010-10-25T20:49:10Z")
Shame about the pill affecting -none as every other girl in the UK seems to take the pill more often than I take air into my lungs. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/15 "2010-10-25T21:26:18Z")
> [@England](#): > > Shame about the pill affecting -none as every other girl in the UK seems to take the pill more often than I take air into my lungs. Yup, I had no idea! However, if there is a mix with TUTH that will counteract the Pill’s negative effects, that would be a good discovery too!!! We can’t just sit and take other’s word for it, I see that we need to confirm or deny it ourselves, then if it is confirmed find a MX or combo that WILL work!!! Can’t say IMPOSSIBLE Damn IT! In my case, A IS NOT on the PILL so I couldn’t test with her… I want to do further testing on this point as well!!! SOoO much to test out!!! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/16 "2010-11-02T08:49:19Z")
Ok, the update on this point is that AMMO does a better job in my SSS than the TUTH did. I was attacked when I was in bed with A after a bit of a talk and I thought we were going to sleep. After a few minutes of silence, the fun started, with her initiating. I was ready and willing! I did have AMMO on that night and there was NO reason for that to have occurred, that I see, other than the AMMO. That was at 3x’s. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/17 "2010-11-30T08:45:57Z")
Ok, I’ve been posting about my good results with IS at about 4 sprays of 2x strength. Similar reactions with 40 to 80 mu of TAA… My LTR is so attracted to the IS and the TAA… these are what she needed to really get into the mood. Of course, nothing will work 100 % of the time and even if she will be attracted to the thought with these, if she is tired or wants to rest for a long day that will be coming up, then, she’ll dominate her urges… I think that someone that controls their feelings and urges, will have more ability to control their responses to the mones signals. As I don’t frequent the club scene, I think that the women are already putting out ‘feeler’s’ for a guy to spend time with and possibly go home with…they, guys and gals, are letting loose their feelings and cultivating their urges and looking for others that will click with them, to different degrees. Mones will thrive exquisitely in this environment. In my case, Socials, specifically IS, are the alternative to TUTH for sexual attraction…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![bryank30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@bryank30](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bryank30)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/18 "2011-02-08T22:33:09Z")
I am kind of curious now if I will get a better response from AMMO versus TUTH..haven’t tried either of them yet. I also really wonder, even if its government controlled lol, if there is a mone that IS very powerful that literally puts men or women in an uncontrolled lust filled state (think Ocean 13). Unlikely..but with our government..you never know LOL. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/19 "2011-02-08T22:43:10Z")
> [@bryank30](#): > > I am kind of curious now if I will get a better response from AMMO versus TUTH..haven’t tried either of them yet. > > I also really wonder, even if its government controlled lol, if there is a mone that IS very powerful that literally puts men or women in an uncontrolled lust filled state (think Ocean 13). > > Unlikely..but with our government..you never know LOL. Yeah, I’ve read some crazy TUTH journal entries from guys on the prowl and some gals already have low inhibitions that TUTH just demolishes. But, if you have a LTR, sometimes that same ‘Sex Now’ vibe will NOT work out to your advantage. There are many variables, from your own attitude, conversations, dress as well as the other person, could be upset or angry, sick, depressed, etc… so even if there is a strong MONE signal, several reasons why it may not be ‘heard’… Government mone research?!? How could you think that they would be doing this type of research?!? They only test MENTAL abilities by trying to kill goats by staring at them… 😉😉 ---
**Author:** ![bryank30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@bryank30](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bryank30)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693/20 "2011-02-08T22:45:43Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Yeah, I’ve read some crazy TUTH journal entries from guys on the prowl and some gals already have low inhibitions that TUTH just demolishes. But, if you have a LTR, sometimes that same ‘Sex Now’ vibe will NOT work out to your advantage. There are many variables, from your own attitude, conversations, dress as well as the other person, could be upset or angry, sick, depressed, etc… so even if there is a strong MONE signal, several reasons why it may not be ‘heard’… > > Government mone research?!? How could you think that they would be doing this type of research?!? They only test MENTAL abilities by trying to kill goats by staring at them… 😉😉 maybe goat mones is the answer? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-immunity-is-it-possible-how-to-conteract-it/42693.md?page=2)