# TUTH + Instant Openess (2 sprays each) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 13, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850 "2009-06-13T14:40:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/1 "2009-06-13T14:40:31Z")
Last night I went dancing at a nightclub with 2 Sprays of TUTH and 2 Sprays of instant openness. The amount of attention that I got from women at the nightclub was about equal to what I get when I don’t wear any Pheromones at all - no more or no less. In the past I got very positive results with 2 sprays of TUTH unbuffered. But adding 2 sprays of Instant Openess seemed to weaken the effects of TUTH. I wasn’t repulsing anyone but I wan’t getting super strong IOIs either. (Also Ammo2X didn’t do anything for me either the other day.) Seems like buffering -None really weakens it’s effects. ☹ I think part of the problem for me is that I have a very soft & easy going personality with some feminine mannerisms. (Despite having a strong feminine side I am 100% straight.) I’m wondering if [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) enhanced this feminine effect. I want to be more masculine, not more feminine since I am feminine enough. Tonight when I go out, I’m thinking about wearing 1 spray of Instant Jerk and one spray of TUTH so I can be more masculine. I’m just debating whether or not to add 1 spray of Instant Openness to that mix or not. I’m just afraid that the 1 spray of Instant Openness will soften the effect of the -none too much and I need all the aggression/masculinity I can get since I am so naturally passive. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/2 "2009-06-13T20:23:11Z")
Keep experimenting till you find what works best for you. Remember when clubbing with a straight -none product that alcohol plus too much -none has been reported to cause aggressive guys to pick fights. Make sure somebody has your back. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/3 "2009-06-13T23:17:37Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Keep experimenting till you find what works best for you. Remember when clubbing with a straight -none product that alcohol plus too much -none has been reported to cause aggressive guys to pick fights. Make sure somebody has your back. Yeah, I’m a bit worried about that since I almost always go clubbing alone. I’m hoping that my naturally soft and easy going personality will balance out the -none enough so that no one attacks me. If someone does start giving me trouble I’ll just hang out near a bouncer. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/4 "2009-06-14T05:47:01Z")
So, I went out to a nightclub tonight with the following Pheromones: 1 Spray of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) on my Chest 1 Spray of Turn up the Heat on my stomach I had one massive hit shortly after I walked in the club. After I walked into the club I went to the bar to get a seltzer water. On the way to the bar, a girl taps me from behind and I don’t recognize her so I thought it was some sort of mistake. After I get to the bar she comes over and grabs my hand and pulls me to her group. Then she pushes me into her friend and her friend starts grinding on me. So I start dancing and grinding with her for about a minute and she all of a sudden gets uncomfortable and pulls away. Too much -none? I don’t know but this made me self-conscious because I’m overly sensitive by nature. So, I start dancing on the dance floor. I danced for about a half an hour and I don’t think I got any IOIs. I started to feel like there was a buffer zone around me where people where trying to avoid me. I started to get more and more self-conscious to the point where I was constantly looking around me and my entire mental state got totally screwed up. I started wondering if I smelled and I started imaging that I smelled like piss to those around me because I had a total of 15mcg of -none on me. At this point I was becoming a mental mess so I decided to get the hell out of the club and go home. ☹ There are a couple of other potential factors involved here besides the pheromones. 1. Around 6PM I went to the gym and did an intense weight lifting session for over an hour and I pushed myself to muscle failure on several of the machines. I wonder if this boosted my natural -none production. 2. I was feeling a little drowsy so I took 2 nodoz before I left. That could have made me a little paranoid. Anyway, before I left I went to get my umbrella at the coat check. A very attractive girl was behind me and started a conversation with me. I don’t know if that is a hit because that could happen without the pheromones. I introduced myself to her after a little bit of banter and she gave me really good eye contact as we were shaking hands. But I was still a mental mess at this point and I was worried that I was smelling so I said bye and took off. Next time I go clubbing I think I’ll try just one spray of TUTH. I have gone out a few times with 2 sprays of TUTH unbuffered and I definitely got hits with that but I was also repulsing some people I think. It’s not a bad trade off but I just want to see if I get any hits with just one spray of TUTH while clubbing. ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/5 "2009-06-14T08:58:40Z")
> [@metalTree](#): > > So, I went out to a nightclub tonight with the following Pheromones: > 1 Spray of Instant Jerk on my Chest > 1 Spray of Turn up the Heat on my stomach > > I had one massive hit shortly after I walked in the club. After I walked into the club I went to the bar to get a seltzer water. On the way to the bar, a girl taps me from behind and I don’t recognize her so I thought it was some sort of mistake. After I get to the bar she comes over and grabs my hand and pulls me to her group. Then she pushes me into her friend and her friend starts grinding on me. So I start dancing and grinding with her for about a minute and she all of a sudden gets uncomfortable and pulls away. Too much -none? I don’t know but this made me self-conscious because I’m overly sensitive by nature. > > So, I start dancing on the dance floor. I danced for about a half an hour and I don’t think I got any IOIs. I started to feel like there was a buffer zone around me where people where trying to avoid me. I started to get more and more self-conscious to the point where I was constantly looking around me and my entire mental state got totally screwed up. I started wondering if I smelled and I started imaging that I smelled like piss to those around me because I had a total of 15mcg of -none on me. At this point I was becoming a mental mess so I decided to get the hell out of the club and go home. ☹ > > There are a couple of other potential factors involved here besides the pheromones. > > 1. Around 6PM I went to the gym and did an intense weight lifting session for over an hour and I pushed myself to muscle failure on several of the machines. I wonder if this boosted my natural -none production. > 2. I was feeling a little drowsy so I took 2 nodoz before I left. That could have made me a little paranoid. > > Anyway, before I left I went to get my umbrella at the coat check. A very attractive girl was behind me and started a conversation with me. I don’t know if that is a hit because that could happen without the pheromones. I introduced myself to her after a little bit of banter and she gave me really good eye contact as we were shaking hands. But I was still a mental mess at this point and I was worried that I was smelling so I said bye and took off. > > Next time I go clubbing I think I’ll try just one spray of TUTH. I have gone out a few times with 2 sprays of TUTH unbuffered and I definitely got hits with that but I was also repulsing some people I think. It’s not a bad trade off but I just want to see if I get any hits with just one spray of TUTH while clubbing. Try carrying a togo of a buffer with you. If you feel that you may have od’ on -none, you can add a spray and buffer the effects until you can find a sweet spot. ---
**Author:** ![Juche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Juche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Juche)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/6 "2009-06-14T16:23:02Z")
Yeah, that is good advice. A Togo of IO would be a good idea. You might want to experiment with more androsterones too. I am not 100% sure which [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) is heavy on -rone but adding that in might be something you’d like. I know IO & IH are heavy -nols, and TUTH is basically pure -none, but I don’t know if there is a pheromone that is heavy -rone or if there it, what it is called. You can always buy it pure. > **[Experimental Human Pheromones - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/)** ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/7 "2009-06-15T20:23:46Z")
Hey guys, that’s a good idea to have a togo bottle of Instant Openess. Right now I have a togo bottle of instant shine and a togo bottle of instant honesty. Perhaps those will work. I had a date last night with a girl I meet two weeks ago while wearing 2 sprays of TUTH. Last night I wore 2 sprays of TUTH and 1 spray of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). The date went well and she is definitely attracted to me but the sexual tension is building up very slowly. That is usually how it works for me without any pheromones. I’m not the kind of guy that a woman will sleep with on the first date. I think women see me as a 3rd or 4th date kind of guy to sleep with. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/8 "2009-06-15T21:12:46Z")
MetalTree, what were your app points on the 2 TUTH 1 IO you wore on the date? One thing I always think about when I wear IO is something a guy named Tacitus said on the forum a long time ago. He said that it was his belief that alphanol (main component of IO) was the most romantic pheromone. Tacitus was a smart guy. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/9 "2009-06-15T22:04:17Z")
> [@renny](#): > > MetalTree, what were your app points on the 2 TUTH 1 IO you wore on the date? One thing I always think about when I wear IO is something a guy named Tacitus said on the forum a long time ago. He said that it was his belief that alphanol (main component of IO) was the most romantic pheromone. Tacitus was a smart guy. 1 spray TUTH above belly button 1 spray TUTH middle of chest 1 spray IO to throat area So far I have found Instant Openess to be very good for hanging out at a local bar but it doesn’t not seem very good for dancing at nightclubs. My best results at a night club have been 2 sprays of TUTH unbuffered. These results are preliminary because I have not done enough experimenting yet. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/10 "2009-06-15T22:53:57Z")
Good pattern, I like keeping the -none/-rone close to the center and putting the socials farther out on the extremities. Try moving that IO out to your wrists or backs of hands and putting a spray of IH on the back of your head/neck. ---
**Author:** ![laosracer12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5daacb/32.png) [@laosracer12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/laosracer12)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/11 "2009-06-17T03:26:41Z")
try some a314 to boost up the masculine side. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/12 "2009-06-17T15:57:30Z")
I’ve experienced this exact pattern before. You could be drawing your confidence externally, and relying on “hits” or [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) to be the man for you. When you have internal confidence, you can stick it out, buck up and make things happen. Remember that in some cases those who stay out the latest have a greater chance of getting laid. If you want to have masculinity, be a man. A314 or not. I think TUTH already provides the masculinity. However, if you really want that confidence boost I recommend Ammo. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-instant-openess-2-sprays-each/29850/13 "2009-06-17T18:51:10Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > Remember that in some cases those who stay out the latest have a greater chance of getting laid. I’ve found it to be much more difficult to connect with women later in the evening than earlier in the evening. Do you think a different style of “game” is required later in the evening?