# TUTH + MX336 = F-Buddy Breakdown **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 19, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422 "2010-06-19T19:10:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/1 "2010-06-19T19:10:32Z")
For those that dont read my Journal, I have been messing with this girl for a couple of months now. [Sometimes an Old Dog Does Old Tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sometimes-an-old-dog-does-old-tricks/38336) We have no comitments but see each other like 3 times a week. She usually comes over and we drink a bit and just hange out along with some “other” activities. This paticular evening I wore, 1x-TUTH 3X-MX336 She LOVES Game scent. (Any chance it will return in the future?) She came over and we had a couple glasses of wine while watching TV. After an hour had passed she decided she just couldnt wait anymore. She pretty much had her way with me while we were on the couch. We continued to watch TV and I suggested that we play some strip Wii bowling. She Agreed and we started to play. We were having alot of fun. Joking, smiling, and just having a nice, calm, fun time. So, I had only lost a sock and she was down to her just her underwear. Man, I love how those boyshorts hug her size 4 waist. There is nothing like a beautiful, confident woman. Anyway, I went into the bathroom, and when I came out she had her close back on and had her face burried in my couch. I asked what was up, and when she looked up at me she had tears pouring down her face. I was completely taken back. I was in the bathroom for like 3 min, and when I went in she was all smiles. I asked her what was wrong and she like completely down. She just started gushing about how much she liked me, and that she hadnt met anyone like me before. She went on about how the last time she felt this way about someone he cheated on her and f\*cked her over. I mean…it was like sobbing. Like lip trembling all out crying. Now, I am caught completely off guard by this. We had never discussed any “feelings” stuff before. Nor was I ready to. I had said in the begining I was not looking for anything serious. We had to have “the talk”, but she assured me that she was ok with the situation the way it was. At this point I am not sure if I believe that. I am going to have to wear this again and see what reaction I get. i have a feeling she will have her guard up this time. Now, technically this is a report so I have to throw some phero thoughts in here. I am not sure if the TUTH had any affect. I have worn anywhere from 2.5 mcgs of -none to 25mcgs around this woman and she does not seem to react much to it. I honestly think it has to due with the fact that she is on birth control. But that is a whole other report. MX336 is giving me a P99 vibe. P99 seems to have some zen-like, bonding qualities. I see alot of this in MX336. At this point P99 kind of feels like bnol on steriods. There is alot of bonding, and comfort in this MX. A feeling of being totally at home. MX336 seems to work great with groups, circles of friends. There is a trusting aspect to it too. How this and the F-Buddy breakdown relate…I am not sure. More testing needed. Wildflower, I now you touched a little about P99 and MX337 in your last journal entry. Id like to hear more of your thoughts on it. Thanks for reading all. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/2 "2010-06-20T00:27:40Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > For those that dont read my Journal, I have been messing with this girl for a couple of months now. > > [Sometimes an Old Dog Does Old Tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sometimes-an-old-dog-does-old-tricks/38336) > > We have no comitments but see each other like 3 times a week. She usually comes over and we drink a bit and just hange out along with some “other” activities. > > This paticular evening I wore, > > 1x-TUTH > 3X-MX336 > > She LOVES Game scent. (Any chance it will return in the future?) > > She came over and we had a couple glasses of wine while watching TV. After an hour had passed she decided she just couldnt wait anymore. She pretty much had her way with me while we were on the couch. > > We continued to watch TV and I suggested that we play some strip Wii bowling. She Agreed and we started to play. We were having alot of fun. Joking, smiling, and just having a nice, calm, fun time. > > So, I had only lost a sock and she was down to her just her underwear. Man, I love how those boyshorts hug her size 4 waist. There is nothing like a beautiful, confident woman. > > Anyway, I went into the bathroom, and when I came out she had her close back on and had her face burried in my couch. I asked what was up, and when she looked up at me she had tears pouring down her face. I was completely taken back. I was in the bathroom for like 3 min, and when I went in she was all smiles. > > I asked her what was wrong and she like completely down. She just started gushing about how much she liked me, and that she hadnt met anyone like me before. She went on about how the last time she felt this way about someone he cheated on her and f\*cked her over. I mean…it was like sobbing. Like lip trembling all out crying. > > Now, I am caught completely off guard by this. We had never discussed any “feelings” stuff before. Nor was I ready to. I had said in the begining I was not looking for anything serious. > > We had to have “the talk”, but she assured me that she was ok with the situation the way it was. At this point I am not sure if I believe that. > > I am going to have to wear this again and see what reaction I get. i have a feeling she will have her guard up this time. > > Now, technically this is a report so I have to throw some phero thoughts in here. > > I am not sure if the TUTH had any affect. I have worn anywhere from 2.5 mcgs of -none to 25mcgs around this woman and she does not seem to react much to it. I honestly think it has to due with the fact that she is on birth control. But that is a whole other report. > > MX336 is giving me a P99 vibe. P99 seems to have some zen-like, bonding qualities. I see alot of this in MX336. At this point P99 kind of feels like bnol on steriods. There is alot of bonding, and comfort in this MX. A feeling of being totally at home. MX336 seems to work great with groups, circles of friends. There is a trusting aspect to it too. How this and the F-Buddy breakdown relate…I am not sure. More testing needed. > > Wildflower, I now you touched a little about P99 and MX337 in your last journal entry. Id like to hear more of your thoughts on it. > > Thanks for reading all. Wow this is good. What mcgs of p99 would you say you’ve used or would be in this mix if you had to ball park it? ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/3 "2010-06-20T22:21:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Joking, smiling, and just having a nice, calm, fun time I find p99 really sets the scene for this kind of experience. Everything and everyone is at peace, everything is just right and consequently everything is calm, fun and happy. p99 is like a hug - but not a hug needed out of support - a hug just to celebrate love, life and the warm, perfect happiness that presently just is. It’s an infallible perfection that doesn’t seem to be caused by anything in particular. It’s just there. The crying seems strange. Was it crying because she’s happy that she’s got you, or scared that she might lose you? Both sides of the same coin really and it has probably been coming for a while now, and not entirely related to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) (obviously there must be attraction and friendship between you based on other than just on pheromones), but if MX337 could create intense feelings of connection and warmth (A1 like) there and then, then I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the catalyst for the crying to happen when it did happen on that night. both anol and bnol have ‘qualities’ and ‘flavours’ about them that you can really feel their presence and vibe. p99 and MX337 don’t seem to have a distinctive feel or vibe, and consequently feel totally natural and organic. It gives rise to the so subtle, yet so incredibly powerful paradox. The effects of p99 and MX337 seem to just manifest themselves without relying on the ‘feel’ of the molecule to act as a vortex and suck people into that reality, zone and feeling. You feel like you aren’t wearing any pheromones because you can’t actually ‘feel’ any vibe your sending out and then BANG, BANG, BANG, hit after hit. Or usually for me it’s massive hit, massive hit, massive hit, “hmm this pheromone doesn’t seem to be doing much”, massive hit, massive hit, massive hit “AHHH I SEE IT NOW!!!”. I love those realizations where the effects suddenly just ‘click’ in your mind, and I’ve had very similar realizations from both p99 and MX337 separately which leads me to think that p99 could well be in MX337. Apart from MX337 I’m at a loss as to what other single or mix of pheromones I can compare p99 to. It’s deep but not heavy, chirpy but not superficial, It’s like A1, anol, bnol and rone all rolled into one with an elusive subtlety about it added. It’s interesting you call p99 a ‘zen’ pheromone and I can definitely see the comparison. I always refer to TAC as the zen pheromone because of it’s lucid mental clarity, laser like focus and eagle-eyed attention. I’m starting to think these two might be a good combination and it’ll be my next experiment with p99. Not sure if the nonchalant nature of TAC may work against the empathetic p99. Jesse, when testing p99 what dose have you been using? p99 is such a gem, I’m surprised it’s gone unnoticed for so long now. I bought it not expecting much from it (due to I’d never seen it mentioned before) and needless to say I’ve been very, very impressed. I also agree with you about anone and birth control. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/4 "2010-06-20T22:43:21Z")
p99 sounds interesting. How would you compare it to p86? Which would u rather have? ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/5 "2010-06-21T00:01:35Z")
I think it’s safe to say that she was feeling the dangerous combination of emotional bonding and physical lust. I know you say that TUTH doesn’t usually create “much” of a reaction however women tend to be much better at hiding their feelings than men. I’ve used MX336 with A-1 before and at first I thought I had struck out on the date but from that day on that girl pretty much lit my phone UP. So if P99 has A-1 qualities then the relationship might become a little complicated because usually once women feel a STRONG bond emotionally AND sexually then they usually aren’t going to settle for being just f-buddies. Even after “the talk” she’s still going to remember that feeling you gave her and if she’s the beautiful, confident woman you described her as then she probably isn’t going to stay in the “f-buddy zone” for long without making a move. Good luck Jess.😉 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/6 "2010-06-21T01:18:36Z")
I think this mix is very intuitive and a good match. From the way you wrote your story it seems like you know why she cried and what to do about it. So, well done! ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/7 "2010-06-21T23:11:03Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > p99 sounds interesting. How would you compare it to p86? Which would u rather have? p99 is unidentifiably beautiful. I think you’ll find it to be absolutely gorgeous but not know why, the effect is very non-localised and seemingly omnipresent. p86 on the other hand is very obviously beautiful and the visual effects are there for you to see right in front of your eyes. p86 does have a non-visual beauty to it as well I find, but p99 has that perfection effect a million times stronger. It’s to early for me to pick a winner between p99 and p86 yet though. I wore 2.5mcgs of p75 to work this morning but took a bottle of p99 with me and left it in my car. I start work at 8 and from then till dinner time at half 12 I judged everyone’s mood and the general atmosphere of the day. At Dinner I applied 15mcg of p99. Seems to hit pretty instant. Instant chatter from everyone in the office. Noticeable lingering like before. A real ‘gorgeous’ feel about it. Everything is right. Definite bonding qualities. Definite chirpy qualities. Definite charisma. Definite comfort qualities. I don’t mean to be vague but it’s way past my bed time, the general jist though is that so far I’m finding p99 has a LOT of potential. ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-mx336-f-buddy-breakdown/39422/8 "2010-07-01T03:00:57Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > What mcgs of p99 would you say you’ve used or would be in this mix if you had to ball park it? I have tested it from 2.5-60mcg with the best results in the 20-30mcg range. I have not mega-dose tested it yet, but did not notice a huge difference btwn 30 and 60 mcg. But, please keep in mind I am still getting to know this P so I cant give you a solid answer at this point. As for how much is in the mix…I have no idea. There could be none for all I know. MX336/337 is very different from any MX I have worn. WF is on point when he says its like your not even wearing phero’s. The only other MX i can even remotely say that about would be mx138. Though they are different, if you are not paying attention, you will never see the hits. I went through 3 bottles of 138 before i noticed what was happening. > [@WildFlower](#): > > Jesse, when testing p99 what dose have you been using? p99 is such a gem, I’m surprised it’s gone unnoticed for so long now. I bought it not expecting much from it (due to I’d never seen it mentioned before) and needless to say I’ve been very, very impressed. I also agree with you about anone and birth control. I actually got P99 in a trade from someone who said that he didnt get much from it. Its been fun to play with, but I feel if it is mixed well with other phero’s, P99 could be the center piece of a MX that could help cause connection where there may not be any, or a reconnection of what may have once been there. I realize that is a bold statement but feel strongly it could be done. As for MX336, i got the last 3 bottles on the shelf. I bought it because it was the only Game scented product left in the store. To think i was using it 5-1 with NPA just makes me laugh now. Needless to say…not a great combo.