# TUTH + TAC + CTTM2= Holy Sh\*\*t **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 20, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168 "2010-03-20T20:48:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/1 "2010-03-20T20:48:30Z")
Okay so before I start, let me first give credit to Wildflower for suggesting this mix to me. I made a thread a while back, asking what mix would work best for the dance floor at a club, and Wildflower suggested to use: TUTH x2 (5mcg anone) TAC 10mcg CTTM2 x4 Alright so here’s what happened. I went out to very popular nightclub yesterday (most of this club is a dance floor), and I applied the mones (all to my neck) about 20 minutes before I arrived there because I didn’t want to carry them in my pocket. When I arrived to the club, there was a pretty long line out the door, especially because the weather was so nice. Anyways, within about 5 minutes of me standing in line silently, this hot girl starts a conversation with me and my friend. She starts asking where I’m from, what’s my name, basically a bunch of qualification questions. Usually when I’m in line, the girls do not bother starting conversations because they’re too busy talking to their friends. This might have been a hit because she was making very strong eye contact and was qualifying me, all of which are IOIs. But it gets much better than this. Once I actually got into the club, me and my friend chilled for a little bit, maybe like 10 minutes, and then I hit the dance floor. I found a nice little spot on the floor where I would actually have room to move, which is rare considering how packed the dance floor is. Anyways, I started doing some dancing, really moving to the beat and having a good time with a big smile on my face. I tried not to show much interest in any of the women on the floor because I wanted them to come to me. After about 3 minutes of me dancing, I start looking around to see if I could catch any IOIs. Many girls were looking at me, but in particular, I saw a group of girls dancing right next to me giving me a DIHL and talking amongst their friends (obviously about me), and one of the girls even pointed me out to her friend. At this point I knew something very good was about to happen. And I was right. One of the girls from the group latched onto my arm (while I was looking the other direction), and almost threw me into her group. She then proceeded to slap my ass and line up her friends so two girls were backing into me and one was behind me (all grinding of course). This went on for about 3 mintues and then I isolated one of the girls from the group to dance with her separately. She smiled and danced very close to me. Then out of nowhere she grabs me and pins me up to a nearby rail and starts backing into me very hard. Things started to get much more intimate. TUTH was literally turning up the heat minute by minute it seemed. She grabbed my hands and put them on her ass and then ran them down her chest. Then, I started kissing her neck and stroking her hair which she responded very postively to. She kept dipping really low, being very seductive in the way she moved with me. My thighs were starting to get very sore because I was bending my knees constantly. I was sweating quite a bit at this point because I had been moving so much. This probably lasted for about 20 minutes. After I was done dancing with her I was pretty exhausted and went to go chill with my friend. Later in the evening, even though I could barely move, I tried going to floor again and test out my mix more. I danced with a few more girls but only for like 15 seconds and then they left. At this point I was pretty sure that my skin bacteria had turned the CTTM2 to anone and I was starting to see OD effects. However, I didn’t really mind because I was too tired to dance anyways. In summary, this mix was totally awesome. I have never had anything of this nature ever happen to me on the dance floor (and I go dancing a lot). The group that pulled me in had not been dancing with any other guys and then as soon as I came in, they were all over me, it was crazy. Thanks for reading guys. Peace. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/2 "2010-03-20T21:03:48Z")
Nice report! Age ranges of all involved, please. Waiting to read your ROUND 2 report! 😉 Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/3 "2010-03-21T00:13:04Z")
Very cool! That looks like a great combo there! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/4 "2010-03-21T01:04:23Z")
> [@snorida45x](#): > > Later in the evening, even though I could barely move, I tried going to floor again and test out my mix more. I danced with a few more girls but only for like 15 seconds and then they left. At this point I was pretty sure that my skin bacteria had turned the CTTM2 to anone and I was starting to see OD effects. However, I didn’t really mind because I was too tired to dance anyways. I don’t think the lack of hits later in the evening had anything to do with skin bacteria or anything like that. When you have a sexual mix that gets you good hits on the dance floor, most of your hits will come in the first 5 or 10 minutes on the dance floor. You can still get hits later on but they will become more rare. If you changed venues and went dancing at another club, you would have gotten more hits. ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/5 "2010-03-21T01:18:01Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Nice report! > > Age ranges of all involved, please. > > Waiting to read your ROUND 2 report! 😉 > > Thanks! Glad you liked the report. I am 20 years old. The ages of the girls I was dancing with are approximate, but I would say they are somewhere in their early 20s. > [@metalTree](#): > > I don’t think the lack of hits later in the evening had anything to do with skin bacteria or anything like that. When you have a sexual mix that gets you good hits on the dance floor, most of your hits will come in the first 5 or 10 minutes on the dance floor. You can still get hits later on but they will become more rare. If you changed venues and went dancing at another club, you would have gotten more hits. That’s very interesting metalTree. I am curious, why do the hits happen in the first 5-10 minutes on the floor and then become more rare after you’ve already gotten good ones? ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/6 "2010-03-21T01:37:33Z")
> [@snorida45x](#): > > That’s very interesting metalTree. I am curious, why do the hits happen in the first 5-10 minutes on the floor and then become more rare after you’ve already gotten good ones? I don’t know for sure but I have a theory. My theory is that when you go into a club with a sexual mix of [pheromones](https://a314.com/), a few women in the club will feel a strong attraction to you but most won’t like the mix or will be neutral towards the mix. But I think most of the women will notice you when enter the place because the pheromone signature will make you stand out. I think most women who do feel attracted to the sexual pheromones will make their moves on you within the first few minutes and the dance floor is the easiest place for them to make a move on you because the can gravitate towards you in a natural way and bump into you without it seeming too contrived. After your first round of hits on the dance floor, most of the women who were attracted to you would have already made their moves on you so there are not many women left in the club to give you hits. This is just a theory of course so I could be way off the mark on this one. It’s just speculation. ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/7 "2010-03-23T18:44:40Z")
> [@metalTree](#): > > I don’t know for sure but I have a theory. > > My theory is that when you go into a club with a sexual mix of pheromones, a few women in the club will feel a strong attraction to you but most won’t like the mix or will be neutral towards the mix. But I think most of the women will notice you when enter the place because the pheromone signature will make you stand out. > > I think most women who do feel attracted to the sexual pheromones will make their moves on you within the first few minutes and the dance floor is the easiest place for them to make a move on you because the can gravitate towards you in a natural way and bump into you without it seeming too contrived. After your first round of hits on the dance floor, most of the women who were attracted to you would have already made their moves on you so there are not many women left in the club to give you hits. > > This is just a theory of course so I could be way off the mark on this one. It’s just speculation. How often have you experienced this? ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/8 "2010-03-23T19:18:32Z")
> [@snorida45x](#): > > How often have you experienced this? I’ve experienced this more times than I can count. I’ve been going to bars/clubs on average several times a month since last summer with [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) combos that contain large doses of Androstenone. (I’m usually somewhere between 15mcg and 25mcg of Androstenone when I go out.). A disproportionately large number of the hits I get are when I first enter the bar/club or when I go on the dance floor for the first time. Also, another factor might be that I almost always go out alone and I’m often not in the mood to talk to people. Sometimes I just like to stand there, sip my drink, listen to the music and observe drunk people. This could cause my “social proof” to decline as time goes by. ---
**Author:** ![antisoshal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@antisoshal](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/antisoshal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/9 "2010-03-23T20:00:37Z")
Another theory I have that concurs with the basic premise is that in crowded places like danc clubs where air moves A LOT and you already have a moderately strong mix of naturally occurring pheromones and hormones, The “hits” arent really directly as a result of women honing in on you as a source. You have more or less introduced a strong behavioral and emotional cue into a confined space via a mechanism that is NOT particularly directional even in good conditions. The moment this cue hits people, they react, but in the direction of the candidate most likely to be attractive to them. Basically you crop dusted the room with sex and the girl/girls that found you attractive reacted to it. Once all the reactions in the room have resolved themselves, its unlikely too many new ones will crop up unless a large number of new people enter the room. Go to a new club and you have a whole new list of candidates to crop dust. The good news here is you probably did everyone a favor by showing up there, because everyone in the room had a better night. I would say this probably only applies to a 50ft radius or so around you, so I suspect in larger clubs moving around some might serve to sweep the room of all good responses. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/10 "2010-03-23T20:09:20Z")
This game of science! At least it has everybody trying to figure out the WHYs, and that’s good brain exercise! 😉 I’m waiting on that snorida fella’s _ **ROUND TWO** _ report, to see if it’s consistent. He may have just been happy to have his mones, running around smiling, because he had a secret, and didn’t know his fly was open! 🆒 Yes, an open fly attracts, too! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/11 "2010-03-23T22:25:20Z")
Great hits, you’re seeing very similar reactions to what I do when I wear this mix in a club environment. TAC is such a fantastic molecule and 10mg-20mcg is really all you need to buffer anone and make it club friendly. No need for any intricate buffers. > [@](#): > > found a nice little spot on the floor where I would actually have room to move, which is rare considering how packed the dance floor is. Anyways, I started doing some dancing, really moving to the beat and having a good time with a big smile on my face. I tried not to show much interest in any of the women on the floor because I wanted them to come to me. This is definitely the right attitude to have in a club. I actually find TAC helps really well for displaying the best attitude you possibly can. When I wear TAC I feel like a tiger hunting it’s prey (NOT a pun), or an eagle soaring the skies. It puts my mind at complete ease and brings in to focus the present moment. The here and now. Complete mental focus on whatever in occurring now, or whatever I’m doing now. No cluttered thoughts, no worries, no daydreaming, just focus with extraordinary clarity on now. Very calming. It will remove any negative bit of body language I may be displaying, which again can really help portray the right attitude in a club. I think others perceive me as being quirky-charming when I wear TAC. It’s a little bit ‘odd’ but cool at the same time. It definitely says more about your personality than it does evoke a feeling in someone else. It projects persona it seems. I think it works well to buffer anone for this reason - although I can only speculate on the how and why it buffers anone, the important thing is that it _does_ buffer anone exceptionally well. I think people think, “he’s not a creepy perv after just sex, he actually has a really cool personality.”, whatever the case TAC portrays me as being very none-generic and people find getting to know me fascinating. > [@](#): > > I’m waiting on that snorida fella’s ROUND TWO report, to see if it’s consistent. M&M, 2 Turn up the heat, 10mcg of TAC and 4 CTTM is a very consistent mix for me, and I’ve seen hits very similar - almost identical - to the ones snorida reported. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/12 "2010-03-23T22:49:25Z")
I have TAC on order at 25 mcg per spray to use as an anone buffer. I wonder if I ordered too high of a dose. I guess I can always dilute it if necessary. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/13 "2010-03-24T02:19:40Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > M&M, 2 Turn up the heat, 10mcg of TAC and 4 CTTM is a very consistent mix for me, and I’ve seen hits very similar - almost identical - to the ones snorida reported. Thanks, WF. There are a handful of people on here that I’d stamp 10% mones and 90% you, and you’re one of’em! 🆒 😉 Still … so that’s 5mcgs **total** of TUTH -none, not 2 sprays of 5mcgs for 10mcgs of -none?? If that is correct in your lab, would you see a need for the elderly to up that to about 10-20mcgs for hits of 40+ targets? Thanks for sharing your lab notes! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rolltide45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@Rolltide45](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rolltide45)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/14 "2010-04-24T04:15:19Z")
What u guys think about trading out tuth for IJ ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/15 "2010-04-24T04:30:02Z")
> [@Rolltide45](#): > > What u guys think about trading out tuth for IJ What’s your age? I’d say keep TUTH unless you’re really none deficient. ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/16 "2014-12-28T07:47:21Z")
Well, 4 years later and finally I’m posting round 2. Better late than never I guess 😉 **Dosages:** Exactly the same and all were applied to my neck 4x CTTM2 10 mcg TAC 2x TUTH (regular strength) **Report:** This mix never ceases to amaze me; it’s really too bad that Androtics stopped CTTM2 production, but I do still have a bottle leftover from years back: which seems to be working wonderfully. Anyways, tonight I went to a local nightclub and received similar reactions to what I had originally reported. Upon me entering, a beautiful woman approached me (who has seen me there recently, but never approached up until now). She gave me a hug and said she wanted me to go on the dance floor. I smiled, got my drink, headed out to the floor and behaved the same way I did in my original report. Basically I had fun, smiled, danced, and didn’t pay too much attention to the women. Not 5 minutes went by and I already had 2 girls touching my hair and playing with me trying to get my attention. I turned around and one of them started dancing intimately with me. She was smiling and giggling and loving the interaction. Great hits. I changed position about 10 minutes later, receiving DIHL from several women in the venue. Found a good spot, waited about 2 minutes and sure enough, another girl approaches me. This time from behind and she doesn’t even say anything: she just starts dancing like crazy all over me, obviously very attracted, and she also waved her friend to come and join in as well. After we were done, I went to the bar for a quick break, where yet another woman began hitting on me and stroked my hair, giving me compliments. This mix absolutely seems to bring out desire from other women. Like Wildflower said years back, the TAC really does smooth over the TUTH extremely well. It gives off more of a sexy, cool, interesting guy vibe than straight TUTH would. So anyways, continuing on with my report, after my bar break I go back out to the floor and ANOTHER woman approaches me! She was a bit older and started dancing with me, and was trying to kiss my neck it seemed (interesting because that’s where the mones were applied 😉). Finally, before the night ended, a blonde girl who I know very well, came up to me and said hello and kissed me. Now, keep in mind, I’ve known this particular girl for years. She has never once kissed me. Another great hit in my opinion. **Conclusion** Amazing combination, this mix definitely works well with my body chemistry. Interestingly, compared to my first report, the hits didn’t stop after the first 20 minutes, I was receiving hits all night! The mix is definitely best used in the appropriate environment. Ideally on the dance floor, but since I received hits at the bar too, I could see it working there as well. Thanks for reading. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/17 "2014-12-28T08:25:36Z")
Yup - this is a superb club/party/uninhibited and fun mix. In the right environment it will do you very well indeed. And yes, I’ve often had “special attention” paid to my neck and other TUTH app points. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gatsby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gatsby/32/1906_2.png) [@gatsby](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gatsby)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/18 "2015-01-21T17:22:09Z")
I’ve had some of my greatest hits with TUTH and CTTM2 with a 2:3 ratio. Curious what the TAC adds to the mix. Also now that CTTM2 is back has anyone tried it and can compare with the original version? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/19 "2015-01-21T18:05:34Z")
TAC gives it a more goofy/playful/relaxed/carefree vibe, that helps things get right-messy in all the best ways! 😃 You may also need to up your TUTH a bit as TAC and CTTM2 in the same mix will be a hefty moderator. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168/20 "2015-04-21T01:26:36Z")
I totally believe in this and I’ve got to try it! When I first started using these products, it wasn’t long until I found that TUTH and TAC was a gold mine. When I wore this, everywhere I went ladies were dihl with me, even when they were with their men and while I was with my gal. It works like crazy. Lately, for the first time, I’ve been experimenting with CTTM2 and I’m convinced it really opens the door to conversation and bringing closeness. Well I can totally imagine what it would be like with the two combined! I’m not in a position to order all three products at the moment, but I’m just waiting in anticipation to get them.. Thanks for posting this to share your results. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-tac-cttm2-holy-sh-t/37168.md?page=2)