# Tuth Vs. Ammo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 26, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841 "2008-04-26T15:41:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@Mecca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mecca)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/1 "2008-04-26T15:41:31Z")
Has anyone notice that TUTH is so much more effective than [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). Ammo is more subtle, but need more sprays. TUTH also gives a strong reponse physically. More stamina physically and slight mania emotional. Has anyone felt this way. Has anyone had this response? ---
**Author:** ![Leif](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leif/32/324_2.png) [@Leif](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leif)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/2 "2008-04-26T15:47:53Z")
I got this impression, but with [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) instead of Turn Up The Heat (haven’t really tested TUTH yet). IJ has 12.5 mcg of -none per spray if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/3 "2008-04-26T16:14:55Z")
> [@Leif](#): > > I got this impression, but with Instant Jerk instead of Turn Up The Heat (haven’t really tested Turn Up The Heat yet). Instant Jerk has 12.5 mcg of -none per spray if I’m not mistaken. I really don’t recommend instant Jerk as it is. Really edgy.. and a walking stinking time bomb But with little tweaking you can use the large amount of -none in a good way ( [Instant Jerk - idle Edition ver. 1.0 :)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-idle-edition-ver-1-0/11233) ) And about TUTH and AMMO ammo is more balanced … TUTH is just -none and more sexual (it works great when you know the girl and she is feeling comfortable with you) But at first to attract you should use AMMO ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/4 "2008-04-26T17:54:50Z")
> [@idle](#): > > ammo is more balanced … TUTH is just -none and more sexual (it works > great when you know the girl and she is feeling comfortable with you) > > But at first to attract you should use AMMO Agreed. Ammo is a balanced blend of three [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), while TUTH is just diluted None. Both have 2.5 mcg’s of None per spray, but with the social pheros in Ammo it tones down and balances the impact. Ammo is great for meeting women and creating interest and attraction. TUTH is more for ratcheting things up a notch, oafter the interest has been established. ---
**Author:** ![Curiouschic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Curiouschic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Curiouschic)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/5 "2008-04-26T18:13:24Z")
> [@Mecca](#): > > Has anyone notice that Turn Up The Heat is so much more effective than Ammo. Ammo is more subtle, but need more sprays. TUTH also gives a strong reponse physically. More stamina physically and slight mania emotional. Has anyone felt this way. Has anyone had this response? Now first off I am a girl (if any of you hadnt noticed 😉) and I havent tested Ammo around myself yet, although I am wanting a tester of it to compare with my reactions to TUTH. But your response to the reaction of TUTH is so right on! I usually wear a spray of TUTH to my chest and a dab of it under my nose before “play time” and wowser, does it turn things up a couple of knotches, FABULOUS! Yesterday I was getting the guy I am seeing to try a man’s cologne on for me and I had my TUTH close by…I figured “why not, slip some TUTH in” 😃 Me likeyed the results! One thing I noticed about this experiment is that I totally get a certain feeling when I smell TUTH. I never noticed this before, but it is bringing back scent memories, (now this could be bad at times). The other thing I noticed that I have noticed b4 when I wear it, is that every part of my body is so alive and turned on…very fun 😃 One day i will be able to give a girls perspective on the comparison of the 2 products, but for now, theres the one. CC 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/6 "2008-04-26T22:15:05Z")
I’m not a huge fan of TUTH as an alone product because whenever I use it as a stand alone I get pretty negative feedback from women. I’ve had girls tell me that it just plain outright smells like piss whereas I’ve only received positive responses from ammo. Yea sure ammo contains less none but it’s safer and is generally more effective. If you’re about to have sex for sure then yea just drench yourself in none ---
**Author:** ![marsgate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marsgate/32/168_2.png) [@marsgate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marsgate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/7 "2008-04-27T07:29:06Z")
CC- We are glad to have you in the forum! It’s great to get a female perspective when so much of this seems to be speculation. There’s little double that -none is effective. But I agree with XDragonX that Ammo is just a safer bet when it comes to wooing women who don’t happen to be wrapped in your bedsheets. Have you experienced any other pheromones besides Turn Up The Heat? ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/8 "2008-04-27T07:47:51Z")
does TUTH really smell like piss? seems like I might have to cover it up somehow.. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/9 "2008-04-27T09:34:41Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Agreed. Ammo is a balanced blend of three pheromones, while Turn Up The Heat is just diluted None. Both have 2.5 mcg’s of None per spray, but with the social pheros in Ammo it tones down and balances the impact. > > Ammo is great for meeting women and creating interest and attraction. TUTH is more for ratcheting things up a notch, oafter the interest has been established. IMO, Marks post sums it up perfectly! TUTH is in-your-face-sexual, Ammo is tweaked towards being more social making it the better choice for every day use… ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/10 "2008-04-27T09:36:58Z")
> [@vic](#): > > does Turn Up The Heat really smell like piss? seems like I might have to cover it up somehow.. That depends on the one you ask! Personally I don’t smell a thing sniffing at the bottle, but quite a lot of people indeed said that it smells like a combo of cat piss and old sweat. So yeah, to be on the safe side it’s advisable to always cover TUTH with some cologne… ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/11 "2008-04-27T17:57:13Z")
some one in this thread said ammo contains 3 phero and they balance each out. So as I’m understanding the 3 pheros have very low effect since they all balance each other out?? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/12 "2008-04-27T18:09:16Z")
Not at all! Below are the statements we made about Ammo, or comparing it to Turn Up The Heat. The statements made were that it is a well blended mix of three phero’s and better for meeting and attracting women than Turn Up The Heat. > [@idle](#): > > And about TUTH and AMMO > **ammo is more balanced** … TUTH is just -none and more sexual (it works > great when you know the girl and she is feeling comfortable with you) > > **But at first to attract you should use AMMO** > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Agreed. **Ammo is a balanced blend of three pheromones** , while TUTH is just diluted None. Both have 2.5 mcg’s of None per spray, but with the social pheros in **Ammo it tones down and balances the impact**. > > **Ammo is great for meeting women and creating interest and attraction.** TUTH is more for ratcheting things up a notch, oafter the interest has been established. > [@bubblebob](#): > > IMO, Marks post sums it up perfectly! TUTH is in-your-face-sexual, **Ammo is tweaked towards being more social making it the better choice for every day use** … ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/13 "2008-04-27T19:11:26Z")
Yeah, the -rone and a-nol make other people want to at least have some sort of connection before they let raw sexuality play out. ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/14 "2008-04-27T19:37:11Z")
does Ammo work well by itself for clubbing? Or is it better to mix it with social pheros? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/15 "2008-04-27T19:51:48Z")
> [@akamahyar](#): > > does Ammo work well by itself for clubbing? Or is it better to mix it with social pheros? Ammo is fine by itself, the other 2 pheromones in it are social pheros. However, adding other socials to it is perfectly ok too. ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/16 "2008-04-27T19:56:30Z")
ok how many sprays of regular ammo? And where? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/17 "2008-04-27T20:06:29Z")
Probably 1 to 3. BUT, there is no perfect amount for everybody and you will have to test with and find your own sweet spot with any of the pheromones. That’s half the fun though. Start out with one spray on the first day, then 2 sprays the next day, then 3, until you find just the right dosage for yourself. As to where to spray it, I like to spray it on my chest and neck. However you can really apply anywhere, but I would avoid spraying Ammo or other products containing Androstenone in your hair because None can be hard to get out. You can spray any of the socials in your hair, and it’s actually a really good application point for good diffusion. For the strongest impact and fastest diffusion, apply the pheros to your pulse points, like the wrists and behind your ears. For slower diffusion and longer lasting effects, apply to non pulse points, like the cheeks, neck, chest, forearms, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Curiouschic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Curiouschic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Curiouschic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/18 "2008-04-27T20:24:55Z")
> [@marsgate](#): > > CC- We are glad to have you in the forum! It’s great to get a female perspective when so much of this seems to be speculation. There’s little double that -none is effective. But I agree with XDragonX that Ammo is just a safer bet when it comes to wooing women who don’t happen to be wrapped in your bedsheets. > > Have you experienced any other pheromones besides Turn Up The Heat? I dont reccomend TUTH unless sex is on the menu, so yeah if a guy is wanting a good vibe that isn’t a “OMG F\*\*\* ME NOW!” ammo is definetly a better bet BUT if the OMG response is wanted then TUTH, by all means 😃 And in response to my phero experience, I do have experience with an assortment of products, mainly the female ones or both sex products. > [@vic](#): > > does Turn Up The Heat really smell like piss? seems like I might have to cover it up somehow.. I personally dont find that TUTH smells like piss, but have noted that others on the forum say this. Normally it is a guys response to the product not a girls though. Some people are more scent aware then others. This may sound odd but I dont mind the smell at all to me it more smells like a man or even mens cologne. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/19 "2008-04-27T22:07:38Z")
> [@akamahyar](#): > > does Ammo work well by itself for clubbing? Or is it better to mix it with social pheros? As Mark said, Ammo by itself is good, due to the balanced nature of it. It’s mixed to be a stand-alone product, especially for people who are new to pheros. However, if you’re clubbing and are looking to pick a girl up, you might want to augment it with a little Turn Up The Heat or other predominately -none product. The reason being is that at clubs, all the guys are going to be naturally producing -none, so you have to stand out. In fact, while clubbing, you could even get away with levels that would be an OD in normal, mundane situations. This is where To-Go bottles really have their advantages. Keep one of TUTH on you and give yourself a booster shot of it if it seems like you’re not really clicking. Oh, and regarding the smell of TUTH, I had a [stripper tell me it smells like her bubblebath](http://media.putfile.com/bubblebath), for what its worth. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![tdaos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tdaos/32/730_2.png) [@tdaos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tdaos)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-ammo/11841/20 "2008-04-29T03:10:59Z")
> [@Curiouschic](#): > > I dont reccomend Turn Up The Heat unless sex is on the menu, so yeah if a guy is wanting a good vibe that isn’t a “OMG F\*\*\* ME NOW!” ammo is definetly a better bet BUT if the OMG response is wanted then TUTH, by all means 😃 Wonder note 😉