# TUTH vs andrestenone **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 11, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159 "2010-02-11T05:11:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/1 "2010-02-11T05:11:27Z")
what are some main differences between the two? I am thinking about getting the experimental anone and use about 10 mcg per spray… any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/2 "2010-02-11T05:16:38Z")
TUTH is -anon syngergized with a few putatives and other molecules, it gives you the most effective rampant sex-raging product androtics knows how to make. You need to be experienced if you want to use just raw -anone. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/3 "2010-02-11T15:27:47Z")
On the surface there one and the same. The anone in TUTH has been tempered. You may get a few more positives out of using raw none but you can possibly get more of the negatives out of it as well. If your gonna get a 10+ mcg spray of anone you might as well just get Instank Jerk which stands to be at 12.5 mcg of anone per spray. I know your probably looking for something better by using it raw but lots of us here and the other place have used anone to the largest extent over any other phero. I’ve gotten some of the worst reactions you can ever possibly get from anone and you really have to exercise some caution in a classroom/ public/ work scene with higher amounts of anone. If you really want more kick you could try NPA. The best person to ask that about is Gegogi. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/4 "2010-02-11T15:57:59Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > On the surface there one and the same. The anone in TUTH has been tempered. You may get a few more positives out of using raw none but you can possibly get more of the negatives out of it as well. If your gonna get a 10+ mcg spray of anone you might as well just get Instank Jerk which stands to be at 12.5 mcg of anone per spray. I know your probably looking for something better by using it raw but lots of us here and the other place have used anone to the largest extent over any other phero. I’ve gotten some of the worst reactions you can ever possibly get from anone and you really have to exercise some caution in a classroom/ public/ work scene with higher amounts of anone. > > If you really want more kick you could try NPA. The best person to ask that about is Gegogi. Good luck I agree wtih Olfact Amorous. I think gegogi has quite a few years of experiences with NPA and has and some interesting results.😃 ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/5 "2010-02-12T01:22:58Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > what are some main differences between the two? I am thinking about getting the experimental anone and use about 10 mcg per spray… > any thoughts? TUTH is supposed to be more sexual than straight androstenone because of other molecules that are in it. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/6 "2010-02-12T01:31:43Z")
Just as the other guys mentioned, ExperiMone Androstenone is just that, raw. Straight out hardcore, in your face, raw, and non-steered in any direction -none. Best for mixing when you want to steer your own -none in one direction, and great for when you don’t want whatever may be steering TUTH for example to steer whatever other [pheromone](https://a314.com/) may be in your mix that has TUTH as the -none in a different direction. Therefore possibly mis-steering the other pheromone in your mix. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/7 "2010-02-12T01:36:22Z")
Actually TUTH is mostly androstenone with trace amounts of steering mones. The steering mones don’t make it more sexual. You do. The steering mones are intended to buffer the raw animal vibe of TUTH so you don’t get jumped by a cougar or beat senseless by an alpha wannabe badboy. The advantage of chemset mones like the type made by Stone labs is concentration for homebrew mixing. 10mg of androstenone in 10ml of carrier is great for mixing with cologne or other mones, not so great for direct application (too strong). Weaker androstenone products like the Experimone series are great for dosed applications when the user is adding their own buffers. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/8 "2010-02-12T01:45:44Z")
hmm… interesting… I would like try 2x IG (~28 - 30 mcg of rone) + 10 mcG anone + IO + IH and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/9 "2010-02-12T02:33:35Z")
Go ahead and get back to us with your findings =) ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/10 "2010-02-15T19:56:27Z")
what are some negative side effects of using pure anone? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/11 "2010-02-15T20:32:52Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > what are some negative side effects of using pure anone? It’s like trying to ride a Ducati after you’re been riding a Vespa for years. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tuth-vs-andrestenone/36159/12 "2010-02-16T01:38:09Z")
I guess it is probably not wise for me to use raw androstenone then; my natural body seems to favor rone more, so it would be wise for me not to spray something that might give some negative side effects …