# Twilight Alchemy Lab's 'Caliph's Beloved' **URL:** \ **Category:** Parfum / Fragrance\ **Created:** [July 6, 2007, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510 "2007-07-06T08:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510/21 "2007-12-15T08:04:35Z")
Thanks…the artists name is Aubrey Beardsley.I think his drawings are fantastic. he he im fascinated about art crime and have read lots of books on it so ill definitely be looking out for “f for fake” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510/22 "2007-12-15T08:10:19Z")
Flaming mate I have never ordered from BPAL but I do believe Tisha’s advice would be right on the money. I would email them first though to confirm shipping costs, how long it will take for delivery, how they recommend you use the product, etc. > [@helius9](#): > > hey Visionary, > > Can you share your experiences with these products??? > > helius To tell you the truth Helius I have not actually tried any BPAL / TwilightAlchemyLabs products because of my budget. Basically the number of essential tried and tested useful pheromones there are here at Androtics means that I have limited funds for other purchases. I am just impressed by the user reports of some of their products on the BPAL forum. With regard to ‘Caliph’s Beloved’ like Tisha said earlier in this thread, I expect it be **mildly arousing** only. It isn’t going to be like Androstenone which is all about representing ‘physical prowess’ and ‘dominance by force’ which is **consistently powerfully arousing** but in the wrong contexts causes a lot more problems than it is worth. Perhaps a combo of ‘erotic notes’ like Androtics’ P83, TAF, P79, and TwilightAlchemyLabs ‘Caliph’s Beloved’ all together might do something very interesting when combined together… Anyway let us know Helius or Flaming or anyone else if you did try some of the products from over there… -Visionary ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510/23 "2007-12-15T08:27:18Z")
Thanks Visionary i appreciate it ! 🙂 Their products look good but ill have to wait till after Christmas too. ---
**Author:** ![helius9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@helius9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/helius9)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 9:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510/24 "2007-12-15T09:14:34Z")
hey Visionary, thanks for your quick response. I thought of seeking your opinion, as my pheros are arriving & I was confused about buying EOs or parfum as cover scents. Mostly I would start with parfums & at a later date experiment with EOs & magickal stuff. helius 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Proginoskes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9adbd/32.png) [@Proginoskes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Proginoskes)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510/26 "2008-03-18T23:39:48Z")
Hi there. I’m new here, just stumbled across this thread and site while doing research on Caliph’s Beloved. Since I’m a BPAL customer as well as a Twilight Alchemy Lab customer I though I’d clear up a couple things that seem to be causing a touch of confusion.🙂 Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab and Twilight Alchemy Lab are separate companies, though they are owned, and their products are created, by the same people. (There is also another, called Back Phoenix Trading Post that sells things like soaps, perfumed bath oils, BPAL tees, and more. All three are separate companies, with separate ordering, payment, shipping, and policies.) BPAL creates and sells essential perfume oils, and only essential perfume oils. TAL creates and sells magickal oils for ritual use. Although some smell nice, the TALs are not perfumes, aromatherapy, or pheromones. BPAL has a section of perfume oils called “Love Potions”, but they are perfumes and not to be confused with the magickal oils under the “Love, Lust, and Beauty” section of TAL. BPAL takes credit cards through their cart system, except for international orders, as has been noted. They also take Paypal for all orders, though _not_ through their cart system - add up your costs (including shipping) and detail your order in the comments after you log into Paypal on your own. It would be a good idea to check with them on Int. shipping costs before sending payment. TAL does not have a cart system and only takes Paypal. Just log into Paypal, “send money” to the proper email, and detail your order in the comments, including shipping. TAL does ship internationally as well, but they do not sell any samples. They also do not have any rule that says you must be a customer of BPAL to order. Joining the BPAL fan forums at [bpal.org](http://bpal.org) is a good way to learn more about the BPAL scents, as well as BPTP and TAL products, but you do have to join to post and to see most of the discussion. You don’t have to join to see the FAQs, Recommendations, or Reviews sections. Just to be clear, this is a fan/customer forum that is _not_ owned or administered by the owners of BPAL, BPTP, or TAL. (Though they have been known to hang out there.😉 ) Also, I know it wasn’t suggested that anyone put Caliph’s Beloved itself on lips, but I just want to be sure y’all understand that just because Caliph’s Beloved obviously has cinnamon in it does not mean it’s ok to use on lips. None of the TAL oils (or PBAL perfumes, for that matter) are remotely edible and they should absolutely not be used on lips. In fact, though the “Love, Lust, and Beauty” TAL oils are safe to touch, there are other TAL oils that aren’t safe even be touched at all. (Safe in a physical sense, I mean. Your soul and karma are different problems.) Probably if someone doesn’t know how to use a magickal oil properly, it’s best if they don’t. Just something to think about… ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510/27 "2008-03-25T20:44:28Z")
> [@Proginoskes](#): > > BPAL has a section of perfume oils called “Love Potions”, but they are perfumes and not to be confused with the magickal oils under the “Love, Lust, and Beauty” section of TAL. I do NOT want anyone to confuse these potions from BPAL with perfumes discussed in the thread titled “Love Potions”, as well as in other numerous places on this forum. The Love Potions discussed elsewhere are from “Love Potion Magickal Perfumerie”. Love Potion Perfumerie is the creator of the **original** “Love Potion” perfume. Further, I have been using products from the original “Love Potion” line for a while now, and I will tell you that no other perfume on the marketplace matches their quailty. In addition, their customer service is top notch. If you wish to try one of the ORIGINAL Love Potions, I would suggest that you pop over there and give them a try. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/twilight-alchemy-labs-caliphs-beloved/4510.md?page=1)