# uk journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [September 22, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070 "2008-09-22T20:32:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/1 "2008-09-22T20:32:30Z")
hi to you all, hows it going? i have started this journal for all the uk members to share and swap their experiences. feel free to post your experiences,mixes, advice, ask questions or anything you want to further everyones [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) experience. thanks, and happy hunting. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/2 "2008-09-22T21:39:25Z")
Hey thanks for that. In short, I’m doing fantastic, I’m on a roll at the minute. The weather getting a bit better in the UK must surely have helped matters too. Last month, my very first newbie experiences with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) have been scuppered by the miserable weather… people just weren’t that receptive in the rain and wind. Let’s hope we get an “Indian summer” in the UK for a couple of months. I have a few attractive leads to follow up, too. Quite a few hits in this past week alone. I’m going to do the sensible thing and wear nothing for a couple of days, then give the putatives a thorough test - P74 and P79. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/3 "2008-09-22T21:48:12Z")
cool keep us updated on your tests, and thanks for contributing to the journal. i’m due to place my third order at the end of the week and im considering some putatives, what have you got from p74 and p79 so far? what i really want is taa oil but it only seems to be available in a spray. we are getting some pretty good weather down in cornwall, very cold in the mornings but hot during the day, and FINALLY STOPPED RAINING. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/4 "2008-09-22T23:00:17Z")
Still trying to get an idea about the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and P79, just got it 5 days ago or so… I actually wore a little mix to work today, with P79 to spice it up, and got loads of hits, it was insane 🙂 > [@A modest "work combo" proves to be formidable - P79 effect?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-modest-work-combo-proves-to-be-formidable-p79-effect/20064): > > So I was out on a job today, at a place where there are lots of nice women, in fact I had 10 minutes of DHVing with one of them the other day, outside of work, (details in this thread: [P74 and Instant Shine report](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-and-instant-shine-report/19892)) I thought I could wear 1 drop of A314, 1 Ishine, 10mcg [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), and I even added a spray of TUTH because I’m of the age where I can get away with that during the daytime. And I sprayed on 5mcg of P79. A modest combo, I think, that I can get away with in the workplace and just spread some… Now I meant to get a few empty to-go bottles, and some pipettes, with my last order (beta-androstenol, P79 and A1 - they threw the P74 in as a free gift 🙂) but forgot in all the excitement of ordering new stuff… Well, I now have an empty to-go thanks to going wild with a previous free gift from Androtics, the IFM. Once I realised I wasn’t getting the negative side effects that some men have reported, I went a bit mad with it, and now I’ve used it all up. So now I need some pipettes (can you get them at Boots or something? Well, I don’t need eardrops or anything, just the pipettes - long-necked ones really) to measure out a little mix I can fill the to-go with. I want 2 parts TUTH to 2 parts betanol (@ 10mcg from the 30ml spray) to 1 part A1 (@5mcg)… make the maths easier, as it is a 5ml bottle. So… each spray delivers, proportionally, 0.4 of a spray of TUTH, 0.4 of a spray of betanol, and 0.2 of a spray of A1. 5 sprays from my handy little bottle will give… 2 sprays of TUTH, 20mcg of betanol and 5mcg of A1. Actually less, because to-go sprays are smaller than sprays from a 30ml bottle. So it’s more like 1.66 x TUTH, 16.6mcg betanol and 4.15mcg of A1. 10 sprays will give me 3.22 x TUTH… etc. There are 4 such applications in a to-go bottle. I found I can get away with all the -none, because I am a) pushing 40, and b) pick my locations wisely: I certainly wouldn’t go to the football or certain nightclubs or pubs wearing 10mcg of -none, but there are places that are not too rough, and not too snobby either, that I can get away with it. But I am looking forward to having a mix I can move around with, and if the opportunity strikes… I can get the bottle out of my pocket and discreetly sneak off to a quiet spot and spray 🙂 I will probably have another empty to-go soon, nearly used up my to-go of IG, so a supplementary mix will go in that, one which I’m still thinking up. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/5 "2008-09-22T23:42:04Z")
i like your way of thinking, i wanted to mix up tuth, ifm, instant honesty and versace blue jeans (i love the smell of this aftershave), but i need to do some more experimentation first. if i were you i would order some fresh togo sprays so you don’t contaminate your mix aswell because the chemical compounds aren’t easy to wash out. when i do i am thinking 1 tuth 2 ifm 4-5 honesty but im unsure about the cologne, dont really want to waste the pheros too much. what do you think? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/6 "2008-09-23T01:51:57Z")
Well, I’m not too bothered about having traces of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) in my first mix, as I am putting some of the active ingredient Androstadienone in there anyway, I don’t think it’d be too bad. My calculations are showing that, for my mix, anyway, I’d need 5 sprays for a decent combo and 10 for a really potent one. With 40 sprays in a to-go bottle, that’s 8 of the former and 4 of the latter. So… I don’t know if I’d dilute it with any non-pheromonal scent, as there’s not a lot of room in a 5ml bottle anyway. Possibly I’ll buy a little separate portable atomiser of something that smells good, or carry a little EO bottle with me. Everything mutually “dilutes” everything else in a mix, so one needs more sprays of the final product, but it all works out. So I see the need for stronger concentrations of experimones now, to decant into these little bottles. 1:2:4 TUTH: IFM : IH… so in the bottle, one spray delivers, er… 1/7 of a spray of TUTH, 2/7 of a spray of IFM and 4/7 of a spray of IH… and you’d need to fill it with: (1 x 5ml/7) or 0.71ml TUTH, (2 x 5ml/7) or 1.42ml IFM and (4 x 5ml/7) or 2.857ml IH. And with 7 sprays from the to-go bottle you’d have applied the equivalent of 1:2:4… although again it’d be less, because the sprays from a to-go are only 83% of a spray from a 30ml bottle. But the proportions would remain the same. If you want 1:2:5 then you’ll need 8 sprays of the final mix. I suppose it depends if you’re intending to use the to-go up just in one night, or over the course of a weekend or whatever… but the required number of sprays gets quite large with some of these mixes… so there’s not a lot of room for extras IMO. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/7 "2008-09-24T22:38:20Z")
well i was going to report on my first day using ammo but due to my laptop taking the \*\*\*\* out of me and deleting everything i had written i have decided that some meditation is in order for the screens sake, so will report two days tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/8 "2008-09-24T22:52:57Z")
Oops. Sorry to hear that you had computer troubles. Also, there is one form of IOI that I have been forgetting to look out for, so I’ll post it here as a reminder to myself and others. That is pupil dilation. Of course, pupil dilation is relative to whether it is bright or dark in the environment too. It is an unfakeable IOI and I need to drill it into my head that I should be looking out for this effect. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/9 "2008-09-24T22:57:38Z")
pupil dilation is definately a well established sign for reading body language but you have to be quick and alert to spot it. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/10 "2008-09-25T19:07:29Z")
two days of using ammo. yesterday was my first day of ammo use and i found it pretty good. i woke up late, five mins after i should have been at work, a good start to the day. i put on 2 sprays of ammo, 1 to chest and 1 to inner elbow, 2 sprays of ifm to the side of neck. this was going be my first day mix but as i was late already i decided to take my time and let the magic dry down and put a couple of sprays of shinex2 on top. i got lots of looks from females of all ages, sweet. at work last week i upset a young lady, her car failed its mot and i charged her £200 to for a new headlight, bulbs and the mot. she was definately not my friend that day, i think she thought i was ripping her off. anyways like i said friends we weren’t that day but she came in again, hit my mix and was my new best friend totally different but much more comfortable. this was the only thing i class as a hit for the day but in my eyes it was a beauty. today was second day and unfortunately i had very very very little female contact with not much to report on the positive side. there is a woman, i would say about 35ish who i have seen out and about, in the past i have caught her giving me serious eyeball, this was before i was single and before i used pheros. today she was at the checkout opposite me in tescos, but she completely ignored me, this was 20 past 6 ish and about 20 after a spray of ammo, my 5th of the day. had 2 at 8, 2 at 2 and 1 at 6 nut with no other pheros other than ammo today. im now a bit pissed because im single now and nothing, when i was in a relationship… ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/11 "2008-10-02T06:40:00Z")
Well, the recent spate of nice weather in the UK seems to have come to an end, I’m wondering if I should adjust my phero-signature accordingly. Aha, in\_uk I missed your last post with the ammo and stuff. Just read it now… do you think this lady in her 30s pointedly ignored you, or casually ignored you? 20 minutes after a spray is like the peak of phero efficiency. Did you say hi, or just try to get some eye contact off her? Of course, there are many social factors that could have conspired to cause her to ignore you - she could have just had a bad day that day. ---
**Author:** ![UnknownUser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknownuser/32/979_2.png) [@UnknownUser](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UnknownUser)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/12 "2008-10-02T19:14:32Z")
Hey to all UK members! I just wanted to say hi really. Not much to report; I’ve tried the phero’s I’ve got a few times (I’ve ‘journalled’ the experiences) but have had no reaction to them at all from anybody yet. Still, I’ll keep on trying! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lightray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/51bf81/32.png) [@lightray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/13 "2008-10-05T22:58:54Z")
Hi all, I’m in London. I’ve just started using Pheros and writing up my own journal in this forum: > [@Lightray (Gay Man's) Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/lightray-gay-mans-journal/20883): > > So having had mixed results with the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) I’ve decided to start a journal and try to keep it updated regularly. So who am I: Age = 42 Gender = Male Sexuality = Gay Blood Type = A Location = London, UK I have various pheromones and will be trying them over the coming weeks. I’ve already had some good/bad experiences with them and will start journaling these here. A314 Smell: I have a version with Akuto smell. The scent receives mixed reports on here. My experience is that it reall… I’ve had mixed results so far. I have noticed that the social mones seem to have more obvious hits (good/bad). [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) : seems to make me too dizty to wear - I’ll write about what happened soon. I used Instant Shine with Ammo and two pints of cider at the weekend. I was able to open up loads of sets (groups of strangers) in the gay bar I was in. Partly because I was in such a tip-top mood. Got loads of attention and mobile numbers too. Not sure how much the mone had to play in it…but I think they helped. I did use about 4 sprays of Shine-X2 and 3 of Ammo-X2. CH5497, if you are not seeing any effects then try to up the dose. Give about 5-8 sprays of your Shine X1 a try in a bar/party with 18-30 year old people. I hope you’ll get a good affect. Let us know. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/14 "2008-10-05T23:04:03Z")
keep at it but be careful not to up the -none too much. ---
**Author:** ![lightray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/51bf81/32.png) [@lightray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lightray)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/15 "2008-10-05T23:26:24Z")
In\_UK is correct. Do be careful with the none products like TUTH and Ammo. People say that overdosing can cause people to avoid you or be aggressive (I’ve not experienced that OD yet). The [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) does not contain any none so it should be fairly safe to risk a high dose. I would advise you should be careful not to drive or operate machinary, etc. just in case Shine or in fact any of the mones affect you. I suggest you test mones out first on days you don’t need to work or drive just in case of bad reactions. Also, if you are a passenger in a vehicle, e.g. a taxi or bus or mates car then do be considerate of the driver…your mones may be adversely affect the drivers ability. You don’t want to be the cause of an accident do you!! ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/uk-journal/20070/16 "2008-10-06T02:19:35Z")
Hmmm… I have to say, Lightray, that my mate was driving like a nutter the other day, and borderline road raging, and I was wearing quite a bit of -none as a passenger (one of, in the back seat), which did make me think… Well, I’m here in one piece, LOL I imagine you will get used to the androstenol products like Instant Honesty very quickly indeed; it’s not like alcohol although some of the effects can feel similar - I don’t think motor control is impaired substantially during its active period. But then there is a “crash” afterwards when you might feel a bit more clumsy than usual. I would think that the second IH experience would be much less of a dizzying experience, and the third you would be so used to it that it would just be a mild lifting of mood. This was kind of my experience with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), anyway. There is a warning against driving or operating heavy machinery with spaceland, which is a megadose of alpha-androstenol (50mcg). Elsewhere there is a caution from Jasmin about megadosing on beta-androstenol and driving/operating heavy machinery. But I haven’t read a report yet about an accident caused by modest doses of -nols. To be on the safe side beginners should probably take it easy on their very first experiences, because of the “exciting” effect, especially with -nols or TAA. One does get used to the phero effects very quickly, unlike the effects of alcohol which will always “work” to impair motor control and judgement even in small quantities. Here is a thread by Butterfly about Spaceland: [Spaceland-Oh how I needed you!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/spaceland-oh-how-i-needed-you/20605) I will say however that my typing turned to absolute crap after the very first IO experience I had, after the post-phero “crash” 7 hours later; my fingers seemed to be twice as fat as normal, I was hitting two keys where I meant to press just one. It took me quite a while to type up and fix the typos in my first report. Again, this did not seem to me to be potentially catastrophic clumsiness. As far as the effects on others (who may be driving) go, well, the -none thing did give me pause actually. There have been a couple of other times when I have been a phero-wearing passenger in a car, once with a fair bit of Ishine/IO on (male driver), the other was with a woman driver and I was wearing loads of IFM… nothing perceptibly different or risky seemed to be happening on those occasions, the drivers were driving, talking, changing CDs as normal.