# ummm, it's what we call "Luck (On The Way) Up" around here... **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [February 5, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917 "2007-02-05T23:52:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Olorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f17d59/32.png) [@Olorin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olorin)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/1 "2007-02-05T23:52:03Z")
So as mentioned in the title of the thread “luck () up!” to all of you. Why this? It’s ‘cause i’m a german from a mining area and that what is the traditional alas forgotten greeting formula around here. It means I wished you all to see you comin’ outta the shaft healthy. Among others it was uranium that was mined here, so … the formula made sense^^ What comes now will give you something to read an think 'bout reason being i’m a kinda thinkertoy. Anyway, I’ve spend some of the last hours reading your forums, so why shouldn’t you return this favour? _ggg_ Ok, so who am I? A tall and slim man in the middle of the 20ties who has gotten his diploma in physics some months ago. I’ve used pheromones before - first a product called C-18, kind of a spray, and then a bottle of what should be high concentrated “pure” ~none from what the shop meant. I was so dumb never to look for exact data on conc. - but from the smell the shop did not lie and I certainly overdosed it “from time to time”. However it was fun playin with it, as far as I can remember. Anyway this was some years ago and no I’m in a situation quite stuck. So I searched around a little bit for new ideas and came also back to the ideas of pheromones. Primary I tried to find answers to some questions: a) Is there a method to determine one’s own production of pheromones? Reason for this question later… b) How can one alter and control the own production of pheromones? c) How could possibly [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) influence one’s own pheromone budget? d) How does ones phero-budget change with living circumstances? e) damn right now i’ve forgotten question e)…oh well i will post it, once it comes back to my mind. Sadly I have not found answers to any of this questions, but I’ve found my way to here…and I like it here. Maybe you can help. Why did those questions arise? So, what puzzles me is kinda status-related. Considering my almost wolfman-like hairgrowth (alas also the little loss on the head 🙂 ) and e.g. my evidently good odor I would think I’ve got a good amount of Testosterone, Androstenone and Androstenol production going on insida me. You could certainly call me an alpha, also from behaviour. I’m not the too muscular type; sporty but certainly no He-Man. But this has to do with genetic disposition, I suppose. On the other hand, I have many many girls and women around me an feeling comfortable and all this - but I end up as the older brother or father-figurine time after time, the one that understands you female’s of the world. Friendships over friendships. That’s frustrating and also kinda embarrasing, as you surely understand. Beeing a scientific type, this made me doubt and bthink…and led to question a), meaning I wanna know if I’m a man with much ~none or less, accordingly to ~nole and b) can I do something about it?. The next thing to mention is that I move in the “dark scene”. Females here are…strange. Many are dumber than 20 yards of cart road, I must admit. But the ones that are not are “addictive”. And I have become addicted, I can tell you… But the females in the goth-scene are … let’s say complex. For instance the are realy attracted by metrosexual / androgyn look and behaviour, most are kinda bisexuall and so on. Androgyn is something I certainly am not and never wanna be 😉 Much public reaction comes from behaviour, thats for sure, but a not negligible part from scent. So what I also wanna test is playing aroung a bit with phero’s again. Deducted from a) comes the question whether I could need a boost in ~none or rather not, also the question of maybe trying something like “Instant Shine” and ALSO arose the idea of testing the use of copulines with regard to the attraction of androgyn male’s here in the scene. I think I don’t need something like Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, I’m chatted to a lot and am chatty myself, as you see.. You see, I’m not the easy “wanna get the girl next door laid” type^^ Right now I’m interessted in what you think…and if i’ll find answers here. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/2 "2007-02-06T00:19:27Z")
Hi Olorin! I have no answers for you about measuring or influencing your own pheromone production, but from your self-description, it would seem you don’t _need_ extra -none (tall, fit, youngish, very hairy), although you might have fun including it in your experiments. Even if you make plenty of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), you can still amplify your presence a bit with synthetics, and the self-effects can also be helpful to you socially and sexually. If you are being pigeonholed into the friends/father figure category, I have a feeling that may have more to do with your behavior than your pheromones. Are you asking them out or waiting for them to approach you? Are you a flirt, a tease? There are a number of threads in the men’s section about attraction and seduction - you might want to take a look there. Looking forward to more posts and field reports from you! ---
**Author:** ![Olorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f17d59/32.png) [@Olorin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olorin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/3 "2007-02-06T10:00:24Z")
Good Morning and Thankx for the warm welcome! “pigeonholed” - I’ve learned a new world and my tongue likes it. Lets see where i can make use of it. Hmn, of course it is based in the behaviour, you’re absolutely right. It’s just that it’s almost impossible to change personality in a substantial manner and anyway I never had intentions to do so in the first place. The idea was just to give things a little knack in the right direction and that maybe with “The 'Mones”… For the hint of the men’s section-I’ll rummage in there… Greetings ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/4 "2007-02-06T12:33:32Z")
> [@Olorin](#): > > \ > > Hmn, of course it is based in the **behaviour** , you’re absolutely right. > It’s just that it’s almost impossible to change **personality** in a substantial manner and anyway I never had intentions to do so in the first place. > > \ Heya Olorin, greetings and welcome! The greeting _“Luck () Up”_ is modified a bit in the US Navy Submarine service to _“Even Up”_ (the idea being “I hope the number of times you surface is equal to the number of times you submerge.”) But I actually like “Luck Up” better, and would have used it had I heard of it. So thank you for adding “Luck Up” to my phrase bank. Perhaps your personality will expand and grow whether you want to change it or not – but it would be crazy to do exactly the same behavior again and again if you want a different result. So, some pheromones that **will** alter your attitude and behavior are the most popular according to the polls here: A314 and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). For the goth/dark scene, I suggest that Instant Shine will be a hit. As far a moving relationships from “friend” to “sexual”, the Androtics product that is positioned to do that is TUTH … which is -none based. The only way I know of to get a gauge of your own level of -none production is to play with it … get a version of TUTH (or get pure -none from the Experimone menu – for me, I bought 10mcg/spray -none) and SEE what happens. If you OD, you OD, and the price is not too high, and just because you OD once or five times does not mean your life is ruined or that people run from you like a leper in the future. Welcome to the forum again. We will look forward to hearing of your experiments and results. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/5 "2007-02-18T01:42:44Z")
Olorin, you sound _ **fascinating** _. I hope to hear a lot lot lot LOAD TONS from you in the near future; Sounds like you have an interesting perspective on life. > [@](#): > > c) How could possibly synthetic pheromones influence one’s own pheromone budget? > d) How does ones phero-budget change with living circumstances? Now hmm.. I don’t quite understand these questions. Can’t wrap my head around them. What do you mean by pheromone _budget_? I’ve seen in other threads the term “budget” meaning how much one can possibly allow themselves per month to spend on pheromones, but I’m thinking you mean it in a totally different way. Question: What attracts you to the dark scene? The addictive females? (Boy, you could have a lot of fun 'moning up and crawling around… I wonder what crazy stuff would come out of a girl while you wore 2x [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) on her…) Anyhoo… I just sent along your $15 gift certificate. If you need any help selecting what 'mones might suit you best, feel free to give me a call! I luvluvluv getting to know everyone. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Olorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f17d59/32.png) [@Olorin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olorin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 12:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/6 "2007-11-17T12:23:14Z")
It’s Luck Up again to you! Folks, as you guess I’ve submerged over the last months. Reason beeing, it was a budged year so far, I can tell you. You know the word “I don’t need sex, life fucks me every day”? Its so damn thruthfull^^ But hey, I have a new job which totally fits my charakter and have a great time, making good money and spending it for fun and activity. Thus, I came back to finally play with the ~mones. I had not the bucks in the last months to do so… Unfortunately, my domain plus my emailaddress has been deleted, and as far as i can tell, also my account on this forums. 'Tis not bad at all, you havent heard from me for looong time^^ Ok, so I just said “hello again, du ich möchte dich wiedersehen”, all I said 'bove remains true, you know who I am and I’m going to order me a little x-mas present now =) For the time beeing remaining with best regards, the olde Olo ---
**Author:** ![Olorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f17d59/32.png) [@Olorin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olorin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/7 "2007-11-17T14:12:51Z")
Ok now…a warmly “luck up” goes out to you again! Or simply “hello” as most of you here say… In the past months I kinda submerged, as eventually noticed, reason beeing it has been a budged year so far. You know the word “I don’t need sex, life’s fuckin’ me every goddam day”? It is so thruthfull, I can tell ye. But hey, who cares? Got myself a decent job, if you say so, make a good amount of money with something what really fits my charakter and spend it for fun and activites =) All in all, right now I have a great, amusing time! Thus, I have actually come back to spend my money on a little x-mas present for myself. As it seems, I’ve chosen the wrong moment… My old account seems to be deleted, which is understandable, havin’ been quite for quite a long time. My own domain has been deleted, so I could not re-register with the old eMailadress. And above all, it seems very much of the products is right now outta stock and it even is not possible to add them to the wishlist. Wassup? Re-formation of the whole shop and firm? And Jasmin, still drivin’ a veyron? _g_ Thus all in all - what was said above stays true nethertheless and for the time beeing I am remainin’ with best regards, ta olde Olo ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/8 "2007-11-17T20:52:16Z")
Welcome back! Very interesting intro post. Luck up to you too. And luck down and back and sideways.🙂 Several threads discuss natural [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) output. It’ll be great if you can contribute to those discussions. So is it the goth girls with whom you are stuck in the friendzone, or other women? Are you showing that you are sexually interested in these ladies? Maybe Dirty would work for you… Also, yes there has been quite a bit of upheaval at Androtics during the past few months. I got a little worried at one point. But things seem to be calming down now. Orders are shipping on time and Jasmin has even started posting again. What are you going to get? Kitten ---
**Author:** ![Olorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f17d59/32.png) [@Olorin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olorin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ummm-its-what-we-call-luck-on-the-way-up-around-here/1917/9 "2007-11-18T12:59:11Z")
Good Morning! Actually I can’t answer your question right now for a momentary lack of interesst. But you can believe, if interrested, then “playful” I am 😉 Right now I just want to … play. Fool around, one could call it. Thus, I also want to experiment a little. Beeing an olde natural scientist I realize the need for longer test series =) Therefore I’d rather like to order a wider area of 2Go-Version. IShine for sure, TUTH, IJerk, IGentleman (to experiment with beeing even more pigeonholed, hehe) and ISEx/w to play a little woth copulins. Maybe it even makes me horny _lol_ Best would also be a portion of A314 in 2Go-Size. I _have_ a job to do, at last =) As said, unfortunately, not all o’em are orderable in 2GO-Sizes right now. Longer shipping times of 3 weeks would not matter that much, als long as I could get the stuff before the 18th of december, when my x-mas holiday begins. I’d rather not like to bother Jasmin with this, as long as I don’t know whether she has comes to terms with her hubby. Any suggestions? Fine day to ya all!