# Unclear results on my first products but an epiphany! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 11, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884 "2008-03-11T04:42:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tuber\_Schredder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@Tuber\_Schredder](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tuber_Schredder)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884/1 "2008-03-11T04:42:29Z")
Tuber here. So I bought my first set of products. Reminder, Im Asian in my 30’s. Ive been testing my products for several weeks now and have been hesitant to report my findings. I would say that Ive dabbled with a combination that starts with some Athena10x that I put in my Marc Jacobs aftershave which I use on my face, 3-4 sprays of Instant Shine on my neck and hair (I have long hair) and maybe 1-2 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). I have to say I had unclear results. However the problem is my job is so fast that I simply dont even have time to look around an notice. I also am with the same people everyday and I have read that the best is go to places where you are unfamiliar and start conversations with new people. So I have found it hard to judge the effects thus far. Now it wasnt until I bought some ammo and started using that that I noticed something that I believe had been going on the whole time. In the mornings I have suddenly become a “chatty Cathy.” Im talking a million words a minute and cracking jokes to everyone, stimulating conversation and stories. Let me tell you Tuber is not a morning person and I can generally be downright miserable. So where as I have not been able to notice the effects it has had on my co-workers i sit with (all women), I truly believe I have been the one put under the spell itself. Is anyone in a similar fast working environment where it is hard to slow down and notice hits. If so what tricks do you have? Well I thought while I havent made any success with the ladies yet it might be helpful to report there seems to be self effects which means something seems to be going on. Would love some comments or advice. How do I get to the next “phero-level?” ---
**Author:** ![galydrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/galydrum/32/5181_2.png) [@galydrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/galydrum)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884/2 "2008-03-11T13:40:33Z")
Yeah, that’s probably your IS working on ya. That stuff is great. Just puts you and everyone else in a good mood. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884/3 "2008-03-11T18:31:14Z")
I say, don’t worry about being in a fast paced environment. While its true that [pheromones](https://a314.com/) won’t work unless it’s in the right environment, I think it’s more true to say that the desired effects won’t appear unless you’re in the right environment. That is to say, that if you’re in a workplace, you aren’t going to have all the girls come up to you and grind on you. But that could happen in a club, with the same mix. So pheromones are always working on their brains, but the situation dictates that they can only respond in certain ways. Anyways, you’re clearly seeing self effects when you’re “Chatty Cathy”. I think that shows you the strongest effects right there. You say so yourself that you are not a morning person and can generally be downright miserable. Sounds quite different than ‘talking a million words a minute and cracking jokes to everyone…’ doesn’t it? And in any case, a fast paced environment might be nice. I find that when I’m in a fast paced environment, I let my instincts take over. If I need something, I’ll just reach out and grab it. If I have something that needs to be said, I’ll just shout it out. And that’s just from the environment. Add the influence of pheromones, and you might find some interesting things that result from the combination of phero-influence, and work pressure. Might not be the most sexual responses, but they are responses nonetheless. Which leads me to seeing hits. Don’t worry about slowing down to catch all the hits. Just focus on yourself, and go through the day doing what you need to do. Of course interact with other people, that’s the main point, but don’t focus all your attention on them. That means you’re reacting to them, they aren’t reacting to you. You want them to react to you. Create direction, and they will follow. If you just go about your day, you’ll find that more hits than you can even keep track of will fly into your lap. Anyways, you’re already on your way to the next ‘phero-level’. You’re trying things, then reflecting on it. If you really want to approach it in a measured manner, try each product for a week on its own, then try combinations. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884/4 "2008-03-12T20:17:18Z")
> [@Tuber\_Schredder](#): > > In the mornings I have suddenly become a “chatty Cathy.” _Im talking a million words a minute and cracking jokes to everyone, stimulating conversation and stories._ Let me tell you Tuber is not a morning person and I can generally be downright miserable. So where as I have not been able to notice the effects it has had on my co-workers i sit with (all women), I truly believe I have been the one put under the spell itself. Those are the results of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Shine but you were so caught up in the self-effects of the IO you did not notice. IO = > [@Tuber\_Schredder](#): > > _Im talking a million words a minute and cracking jokes_ . IO & IS = > [@Tuber\_Schredder](#): > > _stimulating conversation and stories_ > [@Tuber\_Schredder](#): > > Is anyone in a similar fast working environment where it is hard to slow down and notice hits. If so what tricks do you have? Most of the time I don’t. I know the pheros are working for me so I just go with the flow. Everyone now and then I stop and analyze an interaction “in the act” or sometimes I do so afterwards. > [@Tuber\_Schredder](#): > > Well I thought while I havent made any success with the ladies yet it might be helpful to report there seems to be self effects which means something seems to be going on. Would love some comments or advice. How do I get to the next “phero-level?” You _are_ having success with the ladies - social success. You are making them laugh and engaging them in great conversation. That is always the first step. Once you get the Ammo in and start using it - low doses - at work, then you may well find out whom you may have sparked some romantic interest with. _But_ you will have to look for very low level IOIs. The women are not going to jump you at work. It will be the stray look or lingering eye contact, the kind that seems to ask for something just a little more - like a quiet invitation out for lunch or dinner. A little very light innuendo when the looks or flirting is returned will help move things along - if nothing for some light fun. Learn to use your eyes - both literally and figuratively. Look the ladies very directly in the eyes when you speak to them and hold that gaze. It is both polite and a little direct, bold, flirty. Learn to smile and flirt with a glance. A little smile with a half wink connected to direct eye contact goes a _long_ way. ---
**Author:** ![Tuber\_Schredder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@Tuber\_Schredder](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tuber_Schredder)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884/5 "2008-03-13T03:04:37Z")
Big reps guys. Im just going to go with the flow. I think you cant help but want to see the hits work because you know the stuff seems like it is going pretty fast and soon you have to buy another bottle. Im going to narrow my focus to one product at a time for now and see if I can simplify things. laters, Tuber ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/unclear-results-on-my-first-products-but-an-epiphany/9884/6 "2008-03-14T09:39:36Z")
Tuber Schredder? _Tater laughs like Frankenstein at a Tupperware party_