# Under Dose for club :)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 14, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908 "2008-06-14T08:09:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908/1 "2008-06-14T08:09:13Z")

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hey guys

I wore this tonight clubbing

3 drops A314  
2 drops Molecule A  
4 sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)  
7 sprays [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)  
3 sprays AMMO

4 sprays armani code cover

NO resluts compare to this

A314 3 drops or (2.5)  
[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 4 drops (2 to the neck) and two to the wrest  
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (6 drops on my arms)  
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2 drops (one to my neck and one to my wrist)

> [@A Journey to Create My Reality the way I want it..](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-journey-to-create-my-reality-the-way-i-want-it/13821/9):
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> tonight: 3 drops A314 2 drops Molecule A 4 sprays Instant Shine 7 sprays [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 3 sprays ammunation 4 sprays armani code cover report later slight_smile

(read my 2nd and 3rd posts to see how awesome it was)

I’ll describe the differences in the atmosphere to make a point and ask for your advice

the effective Mix, I wore it on Wednesday night.. in a college town that has 10,000 students in the summer (40,000 in regular semesters). There’s less people in town, and less people going out on a week night.

I went out between 12 and 2 that night, girls were walking up to me, calling me over and talking to me. There was 3 guys/ 1 girl ratio

tonight: girls were pushing through guys trying to walk in and out of the clubs, it was SUPER crowded.. I only went to one bar and one club and I had limited access due to places asking for covers and I don’t want to pay 10 dollars for a small club. It was 10 guys/ 1 girl ratio.. and a lot of the guys were gross, wednesday night the girls that were “hitting on me” and grabbing my hair were super hotties.

tonight all I got was a fatty who happened to be in my class, she opened me by telling me we’re in the same class, I didn’t really recognize her..we start dancing, she’s facing me, i tell her to turn around so she grinds on me but her drunk guy friend keeps making her turn back, lol.. she has beautiful breasts so i told her “you have beautiful eyes” while staring at her titties.. she says thanks but that’s not where ur looking, I said “those are beautiful too”, later cuz she sucked at grinding, i didnt really enjoy it, i ended up playing with her boobs during the smokes from the dj.. i was not IN with her, i kept trying to talk to other people and she keeps asking me to dance with her..

not much IOI from girls, it was SUPER packed.. super smokey, and full of guys..i could hardly walk, however when i first entered this one hottie was kinda checking me out, i smiled at her as I left she smiled back..

some other girl from my class, i caught her talking to her friend looking at me then she looked away, i dont know what they were saying but i don’t care for her..

for fun, i went up to the tallest girl in the bar..and touched her shoulder which I had to reach up to get to,lol..and told her she looks really cute and kept walking, i didn’t even hear what she said..i think it was along the lines of _eye roll_..her friend, my friends heard her, said “who the fuck is this guy?”

some girls had unconscious IOIs and they were friendly at the bar, but i didnt hook the conversations..i was in my head trying to make sure my friends have a good time cuz they came with me.. btw best sarge is sarging alone, or sarging with a pua.. going out with ur normal friends, guys no matter how cool they are, doesn’t produce much game.. anyways

after 2 when everyone closes.. i get opened several times on the street by people, girls about my hair..

just to test whatever was left from [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and not washed by people and the smoke (probably A314 and that one TAA drop) as I returned home..i stopped by the parking garage where there is a big line of people, I wasn’t parked..just did it to observe, I push the guy infront of me out of my way (politely).. the 4 girls infront of him(one was really hot) at the same moment threw IOIs (hair touch) and the hottie was super smiling looking at me, after I pass the crowd I look behind and I catch every girl in the big lane looking and looking away one after another.. its A314 babby!

i go home and now im writing 🙂

**so summary .. I think I was not wearing enough pheromones to hit those girls in that crowdness.. I think it needs something like my 8 shots of turn up the heat trial or something.. or its just the pheromones can’t help in that crowded environment/natural bitchiness at 1 am saturday morning … advice please? and tell me your experience with small clubs that aren’t that high quality as far as ratio and stuff..**

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908/2 "2008-06-14T10:00:57Z")

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First off - it sounds like there were two very different environments you went out in and that alone would help explain a lot of the differences in the reactions you got.

You went from a target rich environment during the school year to one with very few women. Plus from your description there may have been a slightly different social environment at the clubs because it was so guy heavy. Just guessing.

Next - if I understand your post correctly, the first mix posted is what you just wore and the second post is what you wore before with great results. If that is correct, you were wearing MORE none this time. 3 sprays of ammo compared to 2 drops. It looks more like you were edging into OD territory when you first went out which may help explain why you did not get much in the way of reactions from women.

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**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908/3 "2008-06-14T15:51:17Z")

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yea that’s what I’m saying boss… circumstances were different, ok… when its guy heavy/big competition/ crowded… aren’t we supposed to calibrate? shouldn’t I super OD or something?

I don’t know about AMMO, 3 drops of A314 might be intimidating in day time for a shy girl at starbucks..but in the night scene, with me being 5’4 and with a big gut… it makes the girls that look like they came out of a play boy magazine open me without me trying..

anyways, I’ll try the mix that worked… 9 or 10 trials, in different places/times.. I’ll test its abilities with my level of game.. today I’m going to houston, ill be shopping (or walking around) the galleria..that is an awesome testing place..

question for you bosshank: when people here say 1 spray or 2 spray, it makes a difference whether its a to go bottle or big one right? cuz the big bottles spray more..in the same time a big part of the spray doesn’t fall on the arm, it just shatters in the air.. i think ill need to carry a to go bottle of AMMO and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine in my pockets.. driving from home to houston is 2 hours, and then we’re gonna eat lunch and yadi yadi, then go to the galleria which will be after application strength time..ill go with half the sprays, that’s what they recommend here..

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908/4 "2008-06-14T17:52:40Z")

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You gotta love those resluts.🙂

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908/5 "2008-06-14T18:50:13Z")

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The other thing that happens when you go to heavy sometime is you get the “ghost effect” - our best guess is that you have on so much it is basically sensory overload so people subconsciously block you out. It is like you are not even there. Well, except for maybe fatty who can’t dance but will let you play with her boobs - lol.

Anyways - you see what I am saying. I think you did well and found a good club mix. You can tinker with it a little but loading up on the none past that point will either get you the ghost effect again or even worse - scare away girls while pissing off the linebackers from your football team. Not good.

Remember - sometimes less is more.

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**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/under-dose-for-club/13908/6 "2008-06-15T07:12:25Z")

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Awesome night tonight. I followed the mix that worked EXACTLY.

Dude, I think its either AMMO OD, or maybe just a sloppy TAA canceling A314 effect!! that would be so bad, I spent a lot of money on that TAA bottle..instant shine works better..

ill report in my journal after I do my laundry 🙂
