# Universal Enhancers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 24, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800 "2016-03-24T09:19:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bsk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bsk)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/21 "2016-03-25T13:29:08Z")
> [@dorfmeister](#): > > So what are your P96 dosages? I use 50 mcg/spray. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/22 "2016-03-25T21:47:53Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Mainly solo, yes, or along with P89/91 and a sexual. Dose - up to 5mcg in mixes, more than that, it mostly threw them right-off for me. Solo up to 20mcg where it was certainly ambivalent/gender-neutral - which can be highly attractive to some women but more usually to the extent I was very much just one of the girls. Which was great for closeness/confidence but not a lot more. > > Probably the best with Taf for me was 5mcg alongside P81/91 in various doses up to 20mcg each. Massive connection/sharing qualities that lasted and could be steered sexually but then I found how well these two also worked with A314 and with more direct masculine presence and possibly fallout potential, so I left the Taf hanging for the time being Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Tacitus used a combination of P81 and P89 to generate what I perceived as possible fallout potential. P91 is interesting as well for fallout - I suspect it may be in A314 in small doses. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/23 "2016-03-26T01:24:18Z")
I recently wore Hedione with A314 REV32 and had really great luck with it. I will post in a few days in my journal. This thread kind of opened up my eyes a little in that it did do something with the status, in that a whole lot more men were way more open to me than before with the Hedione. P79 comes first to my mind to. The only problem I have found with it is it can amplify both good and bad feelings so it can take a little time to really make it the best it can be. I want to try P119 as it is suppose to enhance to but I haven’t seen really any reports on it. I find a lot there is a tradeoff with molecules. Like [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) can soften a sexual mix or like P75 can piss other men off, but the women love it. With P77 it would be a perfect sexual molecule, but it does have a lethargic effect with it at least it did for me. ---
**Author:** ![dorfmeister](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dorfmeister/32/5188_2.png) [@dorfmeister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dorfmeister)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/24 "2016-03-26T09:50:53Z")
I am very interested in hedione. What form do you get it in, how do you add it to your mixes, and at what percentage or dosage? ---
**Author:** ![dorfmeister](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dorfmeister/32/5188_2.png) [@dorfmeister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dorfmeister)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/25 "2016-03-26T10:01:13Z")
> [@bsk](#): > > I use 50 mcg/spray. Thanks. It seems like the biggest drawback to P96 for me with it would be its cost to use it daily at fairly high dosages. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/26 "2016-03-26T10:47:30Z")
> [@'Ekscentra \[temp](#): > > ;556075’]Thanks for sharing your thoughts. > > Tacitus used a combination of P81 and P89 to generate what I perceived as possible fallout potential. P91 is interesting as well for fallout - I suspect it may be in A314 in small doses. Apologies - It is P81/P89 I’be been using, not P89/P91 - Posting half-awake at three am! :o Yes, a little TAF does seem to bring something positive to the combination but its not an essential addition IMO and may hamper its use with other products. You could also do well with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), TAC, or P96 in other situations and I’d reckon it would be a possible candidate for use with P79 as well, depending on your choice of sexual/situation ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/27 "2016-03-26T10:50:04Z")
> [@dorfmeister](#): > > Thanks. It seems like the biggest drawback to P96 for me with it would be its cost to use it daily at fairly high dosages. P96 dose range is pretty wide and depends how use it - for steering/complementing a mix, it could be much less and your sweet spot could be different - personally I rarely need to go higher than 25mcg. Also, keep-up your posting. This is where RU status really helps. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/28 "2016-03-26T13:03:48Z")
With P96 I have had good luck at 15MCG and also at 50MCG. For me it depends on what I am trying to get out of it. 50MCG is great when I want to really connect with spouse and 15MCG is good for a mix I am just going out with. I find right at 30MCG is my sweet spot. With Hedione I actually used 1.5ML of Hedione and 3.5ML of cologne Midnight for Men by Bath&Body Works in a 5ML Togo bottle. This is what I used with the Rev32 yesterday. I normally don’t use the hedione like this. Conjurator turned me on to the Dab method where I take the bottle and turn it upside down on my index finger and then use the dab and put on my wrists or neck typically. With this method there is no mixing or guessing on how much to use. Most users use this method or a 30% mixed with PA in a bottle and spray it on. PA does help with the diffusion IMO of Hedione. With the Rev32 I found Hedione adds a big punch to the scent of whatever Essential Oils they do use in A314. This alone may have added to why I had great luck with this and I think the scent hit everyone and they just loved it like I do. I do have to try this more as this was just from 1 experience. ---
**Author:** ![dorfmeister](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dorfmeister/32/5188_2.png) [@dorfmeister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dorfmeister)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/29 "2016-03-26T13:26:05Z")
I am very interested in the positive possibilities of adding some hedione to my daily pheromone melange! ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/30 "2016-03-26T13:39:36Z")
I would check out Jdubs journal and Conjurators also and they can probably help you out way more than I could and get you a great source. Hedione is a key ingredient in Jdubs special mix which is TUTH/TAC/Hedione. With that mix I get really big hits and what is cool about it is I can wear for dayuse and also get respect of men to. So it is a win win. I know what you mean trying to find a molecule that is just an all around great one for any mix. ---
**Author:** ![dorfmeister](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dorfmeister/32/5188_2.png) [@dorfmeister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dorfmeister)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/31 "2016-03-26T14:19:05Z")
Any thoughts on dhea as a universal enhancer? ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/32 "2016-03-26T14:58:40Z")
Less is more with hedione. I use the high-cis form, and in that case I prefer using as little as a 0.1% solution. This is enough to offer hedione’s excellent diffusive capabilities without creating too much presence in the scent itself. I can’t stand aromachemicals, so I prefer to use very little. A number of us have run into problems using higher doses as well - estrogenic effects in itself and/or causing rapid diffusion of the buffers. None of us can be certain what’s really happening at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/33 "2016-03-26T15:01:31Z")
> [@dorfmeister](#): > > Any thoughts on dhea as a universal enhancer? DHEA has ruined many a mix I’ve formulated. Far from a universal enhancer, its application is very specific, best suited to social/sexual mixes. It’s a status reducer except in the sense of social status which is where it really shines. It gives a superficial edge to any mix it’s used in (which can be desirable, depending on what you’re going for) and flattens bonding mixes. ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/34 "2016-03-26T15:09:38Z")
I inadvertently discovered P122 as a universal enhancer. The two times I wore it solo and observed the reports, I noticed people’s reactions to be becoming more extreme. (Although some of it had to do with my natural pheromone signature at the moment.) If someone was gelling with me, their positive vibes were more amplified. But when someone had a problem, even convert hostility was blatantly obvious. The first time I wore P122, when a girl flirted with me, even it was just playful, fun flirting, as opposed to outright sexual, it was more intense. There was stronger body contact and sharper verbal jabs being exchanged. The second time, I wore it when going to a karaoke event right after getting laid. The effects were just “whoa!!!”. I kept getting praised like I was celebrity, even when my singing was pretty damn bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/35 "2016-03-26T15:37:57Z")
I found the same from P122 - like many of the putatives, there’s a pattern with the numbers. P122 reminds me of P102, maybe a bit less problematic? I still haven’t figured this one out yet. Hopefully the consistency issues I’ve noticed with P102 aren’t present here. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/36 "2016-03-26T16:17:24Z")
> [@dorfmeister](#): > > I am very interested in the positive possibilities of adding some hedione to my daily pheromone melange! There are couple of excellent hedione threads in Theory/Lounge, you should look into them. Personally I tend not to use it at work but for after work, it will complement A314 in more social situations. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/37 "2016-03-27T01:18:35Z")
> [@dorfmeister](#): > > Any thoughts on dhea as a universal enhancer? Much the same opinion as Ekscentra for me - It can harm more often than it helps a mix and its presence can actively rob certain mixes of critical properties. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/38 "2016-03-27T01:27:20Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > I definitely agree with the hedione + A314 unwanted interaction. At least with Royale. I don’t wear them together anymore. I must say that I stopped using Hedione/Jasmine almost altogether around Royale - it had enough of a bright/sociable leaning as it is. But with more normal/traditional A314 Rev, it does help in making it more versatile in social situations but you can reduce or even lose the cool/collected aspect of A314 and IMO that’s an important trade-off to bear in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/39 "2016-03-28T02:49:37Z")
Well, now that I have my hands on rev 32, I’ll dabble it solo then retry it with hedione to compare. Thanks Mobo. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800/40 "2016-03-28T03:42:24Z")
I am also curious about others that have tested Hedione with REV32. I liked the combo for me as it traded some status for male freindliness and attraction from women. I posted the results in my journal. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/universal-enhancers/65800.md?page=3)