# update IV: Afternoon class w/ IO (x2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 3, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262 "2006-04-03T14:51:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/1 "2006-04-03T14:51:53Z")
well right after the class i decide to remove IH. had too, cause things were getting out of line… so I wash my neck off, and about 5 hours had passed. I spray 4 sprays of IO x2– about 20 min thru the class, everyone turned into class clowns. it was all cool jokes and all, but I couldnt get people to stfu. lost control of the class yet again. I would be in lecture mode, but would notice 3 convos going on at once. its like someone turned on the chatter button. after class, I went to an electronic store. sat in line for about 10 min, than the guy behind me, starts blabbing his mouth about his kids. wtf? this is unusual behavior here in cali. people hardly talk to each other in line. anyways. after the long day I had to take a nap. but when I woke up, I went out, and used A314 and IS (thanks guys). let me just take this time to say MHarris and Andro have the best customer service I have seen in a long time. If you guys arent the leaders in phermones yet, you will be. Thanks a million guys for your concern. =) ps. I will update the new IS. seems to work. =) ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/2 "2006-04-03T15:31:51Z")
Be thankful you didn’t walk into a crowded bar on Friday night OK… now you learned your Beta-Nol lesson… everybody who experiments with mones has this little enlightenment… i.e. most people have a lot of half-processed, unreflected junk rolling around in their brains… now, since you have a specific context with a specific goal… you want your class to be respectful and pay attention… use the correct tool for the job ! IO or Beta-Nol based stuff while teaching is like trying to cook a nice steak with chocolate sauce… alright on ice cream, terrible on filet mignon…😕 Instead, your path to maximum success will be [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) or TAC, for you, go with the IG, it puts the speaker (you) in the “elder storyteller, source of wisdom, Gandalf the Wizard” mode, and THEM into the Homo Erectus children, sitting around the crackling fire, with the wolves howling in the distance… listening quietly with great fascination…😉 Save the IH for (ugh, ugh, ugh…) thinks like boring as petrified shit meetings where everybody sits there in a oxygen deprived stupor fixated on their hemhorroids and petty politics… ever find yourself going crosseyed while time is draaaaaaginnngggg along, uhhh blaaah, uhh blaaaah, uh blaaaah…??? ☹ NOW a squirt of IH could do some real good… ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/3 "2006-04-03T17:05:58Z")
too bad there isn’t a Instant [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/)..that would be the best…guess IG would be best in that case… Maybe Mharris need to make a spray called “Instant STFU” …😃 And good lord Examine..4 sprays of 2x IO???are you trying to get the dead talking? I guess thats the level you’d want for stimulating a class room..personal use with 2x strength with smaller groups I’d go with 2 sprays. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/4 "2006-04-03T17:23:35Z")
tacitus–today im wearing a314 mutant and IS. today i have to re-gain control of my class. =P @cloud–Just experimenting. i wouldnt normally use that much IO. but im testing if andro works. and so far. the descriptions are on point. i have updates on my new IS but I have to get back to class. today im using a314 and IS. yesterday I wore IS only. so I have updates on that product. this week im going to wear A314 w/mix. later in the week I will resume my indivdual tests. I just think for right now I need to get my class back on the respect tip (which I lost over the weekend) ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/5 "2006-04-03T17:25:59Z")
let us know how things go. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/6 "2006-04-03T19:00:39Z")
> [@examine](#): > > well right after the class i decide to remove IH. had too, cause things were getting out of line… > > so I wash my neck off, and about 5 hours had passed. I spray 4 sprays of IO x2– > > about 20 min thru the class, everyone turned into class clowns. it was all cool jokes and all, but I couldnt get people to stfu. lost control of the class yet again. I would be in lecture mode, but would notice 3 convos going on at once. its like someone turned on the chatter button. > > after class, I went to an electronic store. sat in line for about 10 min, than the guy behind me, starts blabbing his mouth about his kids. wtf? this is unusual behavior here in cali. people hardly talk to each other in line. A 2x user! Thanks goodness!!! Did/do you apply on skin or on clothing, Examine? > [@examine](#): > > anyways. after the long day I had to take a nap. > > but when I woke up, I went out, and used A314 and IS (thanks guys). You are coming back after you give retention after school, to share/explain the A314 and IS statement aren’t you? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/7 "2006-04-03T20:13:04Z")
You should not apply on clothing at all if u can help it. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) do not disperse well at all on clothing..they just kind of stick there. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/8 "2006-04-03T21:09:05Z")
They disperse just fine from clothing, in my experience. And they keep dispersing… and dispersing… and… Better not to use 'em on clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/9 "2006-04-03T21:12:32Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > You should not apply on clothing at all if u can help it. Pheromones do not disperse well at all on clothing..they just kind of stick there. The jury may be out on that. I have heard of good results _IF_ and _When_ the pheromones are applied to say an undershirt, where it gets the benefit of skin heat (a hat may work too). I can see where applying to say pantcuffs or the like may not work all that well. No real heat source. There there is are “interaction with skin bacteria” arguments… (conversion, etc) Maybe some of our mad experimenters can give the clothing vs skin applications a try and see if they note a difference. There may be times when you _don’t_ want wide dispersion too. Say if you are working on a single specific target. I can think of a number of variables to consider, including the basic “carrier,” clothing material (eg synthetic vs natural fiber), etc. Although you could start to get too obsessed with each possible variable, and a “general” rule/guideline is sufficient. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-iv-afternoon-class-w-io-x2/262/10 "2006-04-03T21:14:32Z")
> [@](#): > > the pheromones are applied to say an undershirt, where it gets the benefit of skin heat i was just thinking the same thing.