# update V: A314 and IS **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 4, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266 "2006-04-04T04:35:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/1 "2006-04-04T04:35:00Z")
todays update: 2 drops of A314 mutant, 3 sprays of IS. Todays class started off a little chatty, but it died down after a couple of hours. I have this trouble maker chick sitting next to me now. quick story on this girl: This girl during my IH test, revealed to the class she was black (even thou shes mexican) dont even ask. i dont even want to get into this one. just know i am scared of IH now. (yea theres more stories than the ones ive written) shes a slightly heavy but busty girl, shaves her eye brows, and thinks shes all that. during the IH raid, she started talking about actors that were ugly.which is why i think im more vocal about her looks than i was before. this chick clearly has self esteem problems. she talks a lot of smack. so anyways… she came in, and says.. girl: sorry im late, i just jumped out of bed, im bumming it today! but whatever, there is nobody to impress here! me: hmmmm me: _thinking_–now you’re getting on my nerves about 20 min later me: hey, is that a koolaid stain on your sweater? girl: oh, i dont know, i just wore whatever today. i dont care. \*_ **10 min later girl gets up, goes to the restroom and removes her sweater** _ hmmm after we went to break, another student told me she was “wondering why my attitude changed toward her” bleh. 🙄 i kinda had a bad attitude, but i think most of my groutchness had to do with speaking to my ex last night. so i cant say my attitude was the mones, because i came into the class with a bad attitude to begin with (kinda 😛 ) funny thing thou. i had 3 students call my cell after work (wtf?). one girl called to ask where some store was by the work place. eerrmm the store is right across the street from the work place how can you freakin miss it?!?!? then i had another student (32 yr old alpha woman) call 5 min later to tell me she was sorry she fooled around earlier and that she was going to focus more in class. wtf? you call me after work for that? LOL. then another girl called to tell me i could keep her soundforge disc. alrighty then!!! fyi: my cell phone is for emergencies ONLY. they know this and this is the first time ive ever had anyone call my cell AFTER class. its usually before to tell me they arent going to make it in. 😮 but…im still skeptical. it could have been my mood that worried them. so I will try the mix again tomorrow. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/2 "2006-04-04T04:42:30Z")
ps. its raining here, and the heater is on full blast in class. the mones are kicking up a little. had one person say it smelled like baby powder? wtf? anybody get that before? or is that the mutant? i cant tell, but i know today i drove with the windows up since its raining. could have been many factors. hmmm. p.s.s. I will save my IS update for later. preferrably after the a314 mix. should be interesting to compare the 2. solo and mix. will update later this week. =) ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/3 "2006-04-04T05:14:17Z")
Your encounter with the mexican/“black” girl was funny, but your attitude and the amount of calls you got after class was hilarious. I don’t think they thought you were worried, because wouldn’t they have asked you if everything was alright? Instead they were about completely random stuff. Never gotten the baby powder smell thing..then again I haven’t tried the mutant batch of A314 either. ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/4 "2006-04-04T09:06:29Z")
The mutant batch is light smelling, but I’d be hard pressed to confuse it with babypowder. ---
**Author:** ![StandingTall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/standingtall/32/474_2.png) [@StandingTall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/StandingTall)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/5 "2006-04-04T13:09:20Z")
I got the baby comment about a week ago. I think I had on IFM, IS and A314. ---
**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/6 "2006-04-04T20:51:12Z")
I enjoy your updates, examine. I think it would be interesting for you to try to notice if there any changes in the style of dress that your “test subjects” wear to class. I’m pretty sure that they’ll start dressing more presentably and/or provocatively. I’ve noticed that whenever I wear [pheromones](https://a314.com/) around a female I’m scheduled to come into regular contact with, the female inevitably starts dressing in a more flattering manner. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/7 "2006-04-05T04:08:40Z")
damn that sux. i wrote an update then boom my comp restarted (i was installing a program) bleh. gonna have to do it another time. quick summary. in the morning troubles was quiet–but later trouble maker and i got into a verbal scuffle because she wasnt listening to me(what happened to intimidation?). then i had to talk to her outside. when we got back, she changed her voice and started seeking my approval for everything. dont know if mones had a role in that. i actually wanted to experiment on her since i have her sitting right next to me. now shes going to be good. (i think) but im still going to try 4 drops of A314 on her. is she seeking my attention or something? now that i have her sorted…i have a growing problem. i have a young lady (20yr old caucasian girl) thats usually intimidated by me…getting bold. it seems the stronger the product, the more bold she gets, even using crazy sarcasm! prior she was afraid to ask questions. i thought a314 would increase her intimidation. it seems like the alpha women are yeilding but the younger girls are becoming more bold. wtf? i dont get it? i have 2 women (black and mexican in their mid 30’s) becoming extremely friendly. wtf? weird. so with that said… im still on the mix. tomorrow-- 4 drops of a314 mutant (this one’s for troubles!!!) and 3 sprays of IS. after that. 4-5 sprays of IFM solo. (sound good?) ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/8 "2006-04-05T06:26:34Z")
I notice people with little to no experience around you while wearing A314 will come out of the effect when the move out of your proximity. First time I wore A314 around one of my professors today. He acted normal far away from me but as soon as he got next to me to help me with my presentation he became extra polite and submissive or yielding towards me..acted very respectful. The effect faded as he moved away from me. I do know for a fact that continued use of A314 and other phero products around your targets will create a lasting and often engrained effect..especially with A314. And by regular exposure to that person I mean maybe 3 days a week back to back…thats what I’ve seen anyway. So your status/leadership effect becomes engrained in their head after awhile. P.S. BTW the tops of the forearms seemed like a good spot for the additional 2 srops of A314. it helps spread it out in the open well. I put the other two drops when wearing 4 total on each side of my neck from the ears downward. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/9 "2006-04-05T22:58:07Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > I do know for a fact that continued use of A314 and other phero products around your targets will create a lasting and often engrained effect..especially with A314. And by regular exposure to that person I mean maybe 3 days a week back to back…thats what I’ve seen anyway. So your status/leadership effect becomes engrained in their head after awhile. > > . makes sense (forgot this product is oil based derrrr). also, it’s been very cold here. and i got soaked in the rain on my way to class. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/10 "2006-04-06T00:18:46Z")
Most of the essential oils aren’t great for diffusion, either. Better for “close up” effects. Oil bases give you much more bang in warm weather, or when you generate more heat than normal. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/11 "2006-04-06T01:41:00Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Most of the essential oils aren’t great for diffusion, either. Better for “close up” effects. > > Oil bases give you much more bang in warm weather, or when you generate more heat than normal. yea. this product kinda works the way IS is described. the product works, but its gradual. i also notice those that were close, seemed to effect better. doesnt really work well with crowds (at least in my room). its more for one on one convos, where both of you are facing each other. thats when i noticed the effect. example: the alpha ladies. IFM worked well against my growing trouble maker. today she wasnt sarcastic, in fact she complimented and seemed to be a lot ‘warmer’ --thats a 180 since shes been vocal the past couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/12 "2006-04-06T03:04:26Z")
IFM really turns bitchy women into much more happy/relaxed creatures…and they also seem to be able to take more crap when exposed to IFM. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/13 "2006-04-06T05:17:28Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > IFM really turns bitchy women into much more happy/relaxed creatures…and they also seem to be able to take more crap when exposed to IFM. I think it was Aurelie on here that mentioned she did her taxes on IFM… and there’s nothing crappier than that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/14 "2006-04-06T05:25:40Z")
> [@examine](#): > > yea. this product kinda works the way IS is described. the product works, but its gradual. i also notice those that were close, seemed to effect better. > > doesnt really work well with crowds (at least in my room). its more for one on one convos, where both of you are facing each other. thats when i noticed the effect. example: the alpha ladies. Are you talking about A314? If so, are you a new user? A314 and Shine work quite differently (unless you put them together). The descriptions of each were created from multiple user comments, which were in agreement. It takes a very long time to assemble a description. The deep rooted changes of A314 can take awhile for to understand. Years later, I’m still noticing nuances of it… Much of what we experience here in a practical, hands on manner, transcends what we’ve all learned in psychology class. It’s also not the easiest thing in the world to “know thyself”, be it the normal you or the you enhanced with pheromones. As subjective creatures, it’s impossible for us to have a truly objective view of ourselves and our social aura. You’ll often have to learn about the changes as your friends (or other people with some objectivity in your life) drop hints. The friends who constantly comment on how others are looking at you or treat you are especially helpful social mirrors. As time progresses, you’ll likely many of the same things long-term A314 users have. There’s similarities between it and Shine, but probably more differences. > [@](#): > > IFM worked well against my growing trouble maker. today she wasnt sarcastic, in fact she complimented and seemed to be a lot ‘warmer’ --thats a 180 since shes been vocal the past couple of days. Freer to be her _good_ self. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/15 "2006-04-06T05:57:19Z")
I believe he was talking about A314 and how it works best upclose and isn’t designed to work well in crowds..or to effect a broader amount of people like the instant line does. A314 works best in prolonged close encounters. Although I’ve noticed it only takes 3 minutes for its effects to show up in other people. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/update-v-a314-and-is/266/16 "2006-04-07T08:36:04Z")
3 drops of A314 mutant and 4 sprays of IS and 1 spray of IO x 2 (Im holding off the IS solo til friday =P) This was an interesting mix. now that ive been wearing A314 the class has been showning more respect (except young trouble maker jr, she seems to only calm down when i wear IFM, something is wrong with her _shrugs_) at least its getting warmer around these parts again. So first I wore A314 and IS-- I get to class first to open up about 30 min prior. People started coming in 15-20 before class. about 10 min before class, i had time to sit back and observe… Image you are in a classroom, but you have a clear glass dome shield round you. the shield is large and goes around your desk. now picture the class on the outside. imagine thru a vent you spray the class with IS. that is the effect i saw the first couple of hours. it was like they were all comfortable, calm, getting along, smiling. noting crazy or loud or anything (for once). every one was cool. Every time I would say something they would all pause, and look thou. =) around lunch time however, I sprayed IO. here is when i noticed a change… Imagine the glass dome again. remove the dome, ah, everyone notices change, but they are uncertain if the glass dome is ‘really’ gone. people walk up to former perimeter, but are just shy of testing if the glass dome is really gone. the strange thing is every one keeps running up to the perimeter. another thing i noticed, was the class got a little more serious. but thats only because i wasnt sitting on my \*ss anymore hehe. it was weird, because lets say id get up to go to the printer, every one would pause, glance, then turn around and talk again. lol. at first it seemed like they were worrying if i was going to say ‘‘keep it down’’, then they saw me talking as well so they calmed down, but everytime i would get up or move abrupt, everyone would look and smile. almost like i was holding a flashlight . lol. back to the dome. imagine one person figures out the glass dome is gone, then one after another people stick to you. another thing i noticed, is every time a girl would talk to me, another girl would cut her off with some off the wall question. it almost seemed like they were eager to get closer than the other person now that the glass dome had disappeared. im breaking it down this way, because at the time, i had on ‘‘openess’’, and was analytical. 😃