# Urgent help needed from all the phero masters!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 29, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203 "2008-10-29T14:49:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/258eb7/32.png) [@Oakey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oakey)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/1 "2008-10-29T14:49:45Z")
ok this is it at 23 i have found the girl of my dreams, well i think so…lol Now i have a nagging feeling that tonight we going to break up. As it turns out so has many insecurities and fears and sonmetime she just thinks about things too much… anyway i need some help with a mix tonight. I have Instant female magic, instant honesty, instant openness, A314, ammo and TUTH left. Help Help Help ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/2 "2008-10-29T15:01:53Z")
> [@Oakey](#): > > ok this is it at 23 i have found the girl of my dreams, well i think so…lol Now i have a nagging feeling that tonight we going to break up. As it turns out so has many insecurities and fears and sonmetime she just thinks about things too much… > anyway i need some help with a mix tonight. I have Instant female magic, instant honesty, instant openness, A314, ammo and TUTH left. > Help Help Help Why people wanna hold onto someone that doesn’t WANT to be with them … I don’t know. BUT … A shot of IFM on top of your hands, both sides of your neck A shot of … you don’t have IS??? You can TRY covering IFM spots with IO, but IS would be so much better, and IH to the back of your neck. And maybe a drop or two of A314. The best with my guess. Hopefully someone that’s been in your situation will come along with something magical, but … I doubt it. In any case … Good luck! Hope she hasn’t already put you in the WUSS ZONE. The young ones always get kicked to the curb when they become boring. :o 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/3 "2008-10-29T15:11:48Z")
from the sounds of it you should most defiantly STAY AWAY from TUTH and AMMO because I don’t think she would be in the right mind set for something sexual tonight and you don’t want her to think all you care about is sex(but then I don’t know how your relationship is)… so ill say stick to IH and IO but let her do all the talking and don’t be pushy…just make sure to really compromise with her on subjects that you two are going to talk about and look at things from her point of view and make sure she knows that shes number one in your life and on your list but as I said don’t over do it. but then I am not the master in pheros and mixing stuff and I really don’t know her so its up to you and what I said was base on a 5 year relationship that I had and stuff I learn from it hope it…hope I was somewhat of help ☹. ---
**Author:** ![chadwick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chadwick/32/2129_2.png) [@chadwick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chadwick)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/4 "2008-10-29T18:57:06Z")
you need to go all male tonight, you lead the path of your fate. do not leave your nutsack at home. if all else fails, slap her on the butt and call her a brat. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/5 "2008-10-29T21:21:28Z")
Here’s my .02 Don’t use IO or IH… these will get her talking… and if shes going to break up with you… you want her quiet 😉 I’d use A314 and instant female magic. I might actually use one spray of ammo… i don’t think 1 spray is going to give her an overwhelming sense that you want to have sex LOL The A314 is a MUST in my opinion… I’m not sure what your personality is but the A314 is going to help give you the upper hand. With that said… let me say this… Whatever mix you are wearing… if she does break-up with you - evaluate the situation. sometimes relationships need a break to figure things out and you realize what you had was great. If she’s nice about it and you think there is a good possibility that you may get back… take it like a man and leave it at that. If however shes bitchy about it… if she puts YOU down… If she says the reason it’s not working is because it’s something YOU are/aren’t doing… then do what chadwick suggests… slap her on the ass and tell her not to let the door hit her on the way out… because in that instance… it aint ever gunna work LOL either way… report back to us 😃 ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/6 "2008-10-29T21:22:57Z")
OH I almost forgot… keep your balls in tact and DO NOT tell her you’ll change! That shit only bides you some time… and you’ll go through this all over again. REMEMBER… She should WANT to be with YOU! If she doesn’t… it’s HER loss… you’ll find another one in no time! Think highly of yourself man… you can have anyone you want too… shes lucky because you want her! good luck man! ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/7 "2008-10-29T21:31:39Z")
shit you all are cold as hell…HAHA the only reason I said that was because the fact that it seem he really care/like/love that girl and I was trying to make it work. but the guys are right. and at the end of the day you know her better then we do. ---
**Author:** ![stoiker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@stoiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stoiker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/8 "2008-10-29T22:40:32Z")
Sometimes the girl of your dreams can be turned into a nightmare and no amount of pheros will cure it. BUT I wish you all the best whatever you wear (order up some instant shine though), A314 and IFM combo IMO too. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/9 "2008-10-29T23:01:06Z")
> [@dss](#): > > shit you all are cold as hell… Lol. I agree with M&M, if she doesn’t want to be with you, I wouldn’t want to be with her. That being said, I like the suggestion of A314 and IFM. A314 gives a good backbone and IFM says things can be nice if you want em to be. This combo would be appropriate for the ‘Leave me if you want, it’s your loss’ vibe. There’s really not much to do there but for her to decide, does she wanna give up this “high-value” male. Ultimately though, if you do not play hardball, the A314 and IFM will not benefit you. That’s just one way to approach it. If you think you can handle it (and I really do mean this) you might consider loading up on [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and see what she has on her mind. Personally, that might be the approach I would take. But that’s because I’m not interested in her staying with me, I’m interested in her reasons for not wanting to stay with me. I don’t suggest the IH as a way to talk about her feelings and to change them. I suggest it only as **a way to clear up the BS and get straight to the raw emotions and perceptions**. If you think you can handle that, IH might be the right way to go for you. I happen to operate very well when people are swimming in raw emotion, so it works for me. I can’t say that it’d stop her from leaving me, but I would know exactly where she stands and why. From there, I can make my choice, is it worth the effort or not? This approach will require more than just an ‘alpha’ persona. This approach requires a sharp awareness of vibes, a strong grasp of language, and good (body language) reading skills. You will need to take a razor and dissect any piece of bullshit she presents to you. Leave only the bare, naked truth. If you succeed, you will see who she is and from there, you will know whether or not she is right for you. But if you fail to remove any of the BS from the equation, you’ll be left with a distorted vision of who she is, and you will probably make an error in your judgment. You could play the middle ground, wear A314 to show that you’re not a pushover, but IH to see where her head’s at. It could be on Earth, in the clouds, or up her ass. My biggest question? _ **Why do you expect her to break up with you?** _ What gave you that idea? Chances are, whatever gave that nagging feeling to you is going to be more crucial that what pheromone combination you are wearing. I also agree with the others when I say, regardless of what your choice in pheromones, **do _not_ leave your balls at home!** ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/10 "2008-10-30T02:26:00Z")
Go with A314, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IFM. Come across as The Man whose presence calms (and excites) women. Don’t beg. ---
**Author:** ![touch\_me\_not](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/touch_me_not/32/2382_2.png) [@touch\_me\_not](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/touch_me_not)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/11 "2008-10-30T05:24:01Z")
Oakey, I’m new here, so can’t really give you much advice on pheros. But I agree with the other guys, be a man. I wish you luck with your situation, hope it works out for you. Keep us posted. ---
**Author:** ![Oakey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/258eb7/32.png) [@Oakey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oakey)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/12 "2008-10-31T15:58:36Z")
Hello all Sorry i havnt been intouch, ive been very busy the pst few days. Anyway here goes you cold hard bastards…hahaha I suspected she wanted to break up with me coz shes been getting distant and started getting angry with me for every small thing possible, even another gril eyeballing me, WTF??? 😕 As suggested i used 2 drops of A314, 1 split to the side of my neck and a drop split btwn my wrist. 3 sprays of Instant openness, 2 to the neck and 1 to my wrists. 3 sprays of IFM all to the back of my neck. and i carried Instant honesty x 2 and TUTH with me. Anyway turns out i was right she did want to break up with me, she feels that she is putting me under pressure by being moody and that her being depressed is not good for me… God i will never understand woman…lol Well it seems she did not want to talk but just get it over with (she called and told me to see her for 10mins). The Setting: my car with the windows closed. I got to her place and messaged her to come to the car, as she approached i could tell she was in a vile mood to say the least. but after getting into the car, after a few mins she seemed to get very relaxed and calmed down. Now normally i dont wear A314 around her as she is a very shy person and feels it hard to talk to even her close friends, she rather IM… (yeah i pick them strange). But today when ever i had something to say she was very attentive and understanding. This maybe the instant openness but after a while i asked her to keep quite for a few mins so she could catch her breath.. Now after sorting out her issues i asked her if i could come in to use the jon… Not reli i wanted to spray on TUTH…😉 2 Sprays of TUTH, 1 to the back of my neck and 1 in the air which i walked into. (i sorta just decided to do that lol). Well not even 5mins after sitting next to her on the sofa and she was giving me all the signals to make my move… As for the rest of the evening, lets leave that to the imagination… lol oh i didnt use my instant honesty… thanks you bastards… lol 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/13 "2008-10-31T16:22:37Z")
Sounds like things went well for you. Congrats. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/14 "2008-10-31T16:46:37Z")
> [@Oakey](#): > > shes started getting angry with me for every small thing possible, even another gril eyeballing me, WTF??? Dude - they do that even when they are deeply in love with you … > [@Oakey](#): > > thanks you bastards… lol LOL. NP. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/urgent-help-needed-from-all-the-phero-masters/22203/15 "2008-10-31T16:55:20Z")
Kids! 🙄