# Use pheromones with perfume or without? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 16, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178 "2006-12-16T22:10:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/1 "2006-12-16T22:10:49Z")
šŸ˜• Ladies, I wanted to get your opinion on this: is it better to use a fragrance over your pheremones or to use them alone? Also, when combining pheremones, do you wait for them to dry completely before applying another layer on top? Does the perfume act as a diffuser? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/2 "2006-12-16T23:06:22Z")
Hiya Muse, Iā€™m kind of crazy when it comes to scents. I mean, I have passionate relationships with all my perfumes and just _know_ that some bottles get jealous when I choose preferences. I can see the pretty bottle leering at me when Iā€™m applying the gold from another. That said, Iā€™ve tried the meld of [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to perfume in all different ways. I notice when I layer an ultra sexy scent on top of my phero signature, people _quite literally_ lean in to sniff me. Sometimes they donā€™t notice themselves doing it. Sometimes they try to find a way to sniff without _me_ noticing. (Teehee, but I notice _everything_) This does double trouble, because their innocuous little lean in grants them a nose full of my intoxicating bouquet. šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ Last night, I was feeling particularly undecided and scent cocky, so I wore 3 DIFFERENT fragrances on 3 different application spots! šŸ˜® ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/3 "2006-12-16T23:31:10Z")
^ Agreed - if you smell so good they want to sniff you more, youā€™ll be well-whiffed and your mones will get where they need to go. I think perfume enhances their diffusion, too. Plus some of them (like the Liquid Sunshine series in particular) could use a little extra cover beyond the neroli, so Iā€™ve added a drop or two of fragrance oils to a couple of those To-Go bottles to good effect. Generally though I apply mones and let them dry before applying more fragrance. By the way, Boudoir covers cops exceptionally well (thanks to Ail for this piece of advice!) ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/4 "2006-12-17T02:25:21Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Plus some of them (like the Liquid Sunshine series in particular) could use a little extra cover beyond the neroli, so Iā€™ve added a drop or two of fragrance oils to a couple of those To-Go bottles to good effect. Generally though I apply pheromones and let them dry before applying more fragrance. You can smell the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) poking their little olfacotry heads above the cover scent in some of the Liquid Sunshine mixes? Which mixes? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/5 "2006-12-17T02:28:02Z")
> [@Muse](#): > > šŸ˜• Ladies, > I wanted to get your opinion on this: > is it better to use a fragrance over your pheremones or to use them alone? > Also, when combining pheremones, do you wait for them to dry completely before applying another layer on top? > Does the perfume act as a diffuser? If you have a perfume with a huge sillage that others can smell at a distance, then sureā€¦ itā€™ll expand the range of many pheromones. Spray it on while the pheromones are wet. Dry will work, too, but wet should be better. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/6 "2006-12-17T02:38:14Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > You can smell the pheromones poking their little olfacotry heads above the cover scent in some of the Liquid Sunshine mixes? Which mixes? MX136, 138, 139. Not so much at first, but after the neroli dies away a little bit, say 10 minutes or so. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/7 "2006-12-17T02:57:49Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > MX136, 138, 139. Not so much at first, but after the neroli dies away a little bit, say 10 minutes or so. Interesting. Is it the same pheromone(s) you smell in each after the 10 minutes, or is it different? What do you think the ones you can smell are? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/8 "2006-12-17T03:48:11Z")
I donā€™t know what they are; I donā€™t have chemset/pure mones to compare with. Itā€™s kind of chemical-smelling, yet similar to fresh sweat, specifically that of certain men - Iā€™ve noticed it especially in Hispanic men over 30. Itā€™s not acrid or sharp, but mildly metallic. I canā€™t say for sure if itā€™s exactly the same in each of the 3 because I havenā€™t done tests side by side, but all 3 have a similarity. ---
**Author:** ![EnchantedApril](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/enchantedapril/32/2385_2.png) [@EnchantedApril](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EnchantedApril)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/9 "2007-03-14T04:20:47Z")
I definitely like to wear perfume on top. I do let my pheros dry, but maybe only a few minutes rather than the 10-15 mins I have read some here mention. I LOVE PERFUME. High Quality, FABULOUS French perfume. Chanel #5 being my favorite. So, I put that on top so I smell like ME and MY SIGNATURE SCENT. And I have heard that it does act as a diffuser, helping to carry the mones up and OUT from me. April ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/10 "2007-03-14T11:08:58Z")
i go either way. at work i donā€™t wear anything to cover. at night i do. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/11 "2007-03-14T13:07:42Z")
The ten - 15 minute wait is ONLY for EW, as if you apply a cover fragrance any earlier than that, the EW scent permeates everything, and you do NOT get proper coverage. All other pheromones donā€™t require you to wait. Not even other cops like PCC or Pherone W-9. For EW though, it is a MUST-do.. Ail šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/12 "2007-03-14T13:14:38Z")
Ailā€¦did you get my PM from the other day? ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/13 "2007-03-14T13:24:11Z")
I just now got it Dolly. Thanks SO much. Iā€™m not really here right now, as you know. I had quite enough the other night, and I will NOT tolerate the ridiculous assumption by some of the men here, that women in abusive relationships can ā€œJust leave..ā€ The level of ignorance that exhibited about a woman OR a man BEING in a situation of domestic violence, quite finished me here for the time-being. You and I have been there, and have frankly, and often bluntly admitted as much, we know there are SO many shades of grey, and I for one am NOT interested in attempting to educate those of a mindset that they are ā€œRIGHT,ā€ of the real facts. Iā€™ll be back when I cool down. At least it killed that awful thread stone-dead. That said, Iā€™m out for now. You, Lor, Ilsa, Countess et al know how to reach me. Ail )O( ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178/14 "2007-03-14T13:49:12Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I just now got it Dolly. Thanks SO much. > > Iā€™m not really here right now, as you know. > > I had quite enough the other night, and I will NOT tolerate the ridiculous assumption by some of the men here, that women in abusive relationships should ā€œJust leave..ā€ The level of ignorance that exhibited about a woman OR a man BEING in a situation of domestic violence, quite finished me here for the time-being. > > You and I have been there, and have frankly, and often bluntly admitted as much, we know there are SO many shades of grey, and I for one am NOT interested in attempting to educate those of a mindset that they are "RIGHT, of the real facts. Iā€™ll be back when I cool down. At least it killed that awful thread stone-dead. > > That said, Iā€™m out for now. You, Lor, Ilsa, Countess et al know how to reach me. > > Ail )O( Well, Iā€™m glad you got itā€¦hope the info helpsā€¦šŸ˜‰ I COMPLETELY understand why you are taking some time out from the forum. I too, was very frankly apalled at some things that were saidā€¦but, as you say, itā€™s not even worth it to try to explain thingsā€¦someoen who hasnā€™t ā€œbeen thereā€ will never completely get itā€¦ Take care, and hope you come back soon!!