# Using A314 for attraction **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [October 25, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846 "2010-10-25T11:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/1 "2010-10-25T11:08:00Z")
Dear Friends, I have some questions. At first I thought I put those in my journal, but because a discussion is more suited, I figured I might a well start a thread here. I’ve seen polls and threads around here that clearly state that many of you use a314 not only for business/respect but also for attraction and even seduction. I want to know more about this. Since I started reading about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and actually using them it has become clear that androstenone is the sexual/desire/masculinity pheromone. I understand how this is supposed to work. A high -enone sig is communicating that you are healty and fit male, sexually agressive and not afraid to show it. Apparently some women find this highly attractive and will act on this. David DeAngelo calls this SAM, sexually agressive male. This is not a sexual predator ! On the other hand I keep reading about you guys successfully using A314 to attract women. This sparks my interest immensely, because I am struggling to make -enone work for me. I will not go into details, those are in my other posts. It is not my intention to bore you guys with those. What I do know is that A314 works for me respect wise. So at least there I am doing something good. I think this is because I am generally viewed as the dependable guy. I can make decisions for others, I help people. I am viewed as intelligent and have a broad knowledge of stuff. So far so good. At first I had it in my mind that the a314 sig could not be completely utilized for attraction without the high status job, money and big car. But I refuse to believe those are necessary. They might come in handy, but they are not imperative. I don’t have them, so they are not even an option at the moment. So how to make this -erone/a314 work in the attraction department? How is this status/dependability/respect transformed into attraction? What qualities do we need to amplify towards others? How must one behave to be not only congruent to the status sig, but also flip those attraction switches of the opposite sex ? I know it can be done, you guys are doing it. Teach me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/2 "2010-10-25T12:44:04Z")
I think A314 can be used for attraction just fine. Most people assume that it needs a little extra none like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or something else added and I’m sure that helps but consider people also say that IG is easier to use for attraction than A314 and IG has NO none in it while A314 does. Two main things to remember about A314 is that there are different ways to be congruent with it. Some say it can be intimidating or have an old man vibe to it. Which can be true given that it is mostly Rone. But I think some guys are only being congruent with one aspect of the signal. MHarris deliberately added None to it in order to keep it from being too much of a “Rone man signal” ie the type of guy that would get saddled with another mans kids and not know it. Read the description of the product in the store again. It wasn’t designed to be a rich old guy signature but a GQ or Esquire kind of guy, a James Bond sort of man. The term “dash of excitement” is in there as well. Things to remember about using A314 alone. Smile a lot: Why? You’re an Alpha Male, Alpha’s smile a lot because “it’s good to be the king” Incorporate David Deangelo’s cocky/funny tactics into your game. On the one hand you want to shake the “too serious” vibe, but on the other you don’t want to destroy the status vibe by acting like an approval seeking class clown. The answer? cocky/funny Do not focus too much on your value as a provider/protector. You want this, but focusing only on this aspect of your value as a man is exactly what MHarris means when he compares the Rone man to the None man. Be sure to include implications and demonstrations of your value as a lover as well. Frame it by using kino escalation as a reward for compliance but also for the female passing your screening tests. For example: Have the girl hold your drink for a moment while you use your hands for some bar trick or the like…when you finish thank her and include a one arm hug for some kino. Your touch is framed as being valuable since it’s reserved as a reward. When you ask screening questions, give kino for answers you approve of. By being unapologetic and refusing to hide your sexuality..and portraying your sexuality as something she should want you help to shake the old man vibe some experience. Excitement also helps to shake the old man vibe. Have fun and be spontaneous. Try to start having the kind of fun weekends that are different than what every other joe blow does. I’m far from rich but occasionally going to things like a symphony, ballet, or wine tasting communicate value and sophistication which is very congruent with the vibe she gets from the A314…but also going skydiving or snorkeling in Mexico will likewise communicate a man of adventure and excitement that is also congruent with that signal. Dropping mentions of those things during your game should both establish status and value but also prevent the old man effect. Do a google search for (your home town)+(insert activity here) and find events and locations that provide these types of activities and make a budget. I can’t afford to be doing this sort of thing every weekend but I like to go do something out of the ordinary every 6-8 weeks or so. Imagine having a talk with some girl you just met when your wing man whips out an envelope from a photo developers with pics from a white water rafting trip you guys just got back from…what kind of impression will she have about you and your lifestyle? Does that say serious old man?, or mature, exciting man of the world? ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/3 "2010-10-25T13:43:55Z")
Search for the “fall-out effect”… Besides what rad said you can see attraction with longer use on a specific girl/woman. It builds up in everyone. So extended exposure to A314 will create attraction in a girlfriend or some girls/women your around often. I haven’t changed a thing, but the women at work are subtlety acting different in an attraction type way and that is just with being around them often. I get things like, “wish my husband was like you.”…ME thinking huh!!! What??? The way I smoke? Thats the only time I see you…(LMAO inside) and girly little googly eyed looks from 40+ year old women sometimes even blushing when I smile back. It’s interesting to see what “extended exposure” to A314 creates in others and I think a lot of the attraction aspect builds with said “extended exposure”. Just a little different take on things. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/4 "2010-10-25T15:01:20Z")
Thanks guys, this is exactly the kind of stuff I was wondering about. Women look for value in a guy right? Why else would one use DHV’s? The a314 supplies value…coupled with looking like a million bucks, this just has too pay dividends somewhere in the near future. I always tought the amount of -enone in regular a314 was negligible. How many is in one drop? As for adding a tiny bit of -enone…Ammo is the way to go? Or can Tuth, IJ (part of a spray) or even straight androstenone be used? I am getting a bit tired of trying the gazillion possible mixes one can try. I am boarding the a314 train for the next couple of weeks. Keep the advice coming guys !🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/5 "2010-10-25T17:19:44Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > Thanks guys, this is exactly the kind of stuff I was wondering about. Women look for value in a guy right? Why else would one use DHV’s? The a314 supplies value…coupled with looking like a million bucks, this just has too pay dividends somewhere in the near future. > > I always tought the amount of -enone in regular a314 was negligible. How many is in one drop? > > As for adding a tiny bit of -enone…Ammo is the way to go? Or can Tuth, IJ (part of a spray) or even straight androstenone be used? > > I am getting a bit tired of trying the gazillion possible mixes one can try. I am boarding the a314 train for the next couple of weeks. > > Keep the advice coming guys !🙂 My personal preference is straight -none. Mostly because I don’t react well with TUTH. I like to keep IJ and a314 separate. Straight -none is good because you can steer it how you want. With the molecules in A314.. it adds some sexiness to the mix without being in your face, which is what I prefer. I like it to sneak up on them 🆒 And you only need a little, 2.5mcgs works surprisingly well for me added to A314. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/6 "2010-10-26T05:22:51Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > Thanks guys, this is exactly the kind of stuff I was wondering about. Women look for value in a guy right? Why else would one use DHV’s? The a314 supplies value…coupled with looking like a million bucks, this just has too pay dividends somewhere in the near future. > > I always tought the amount of -enone in regular a314 was negligible. How many is in one drop? > > As for adding a tiny bit of -enone…Ammo is the way to go? Or can Tuth, IJ (part of a spray) or even straight androstenone be used? > > I am getting a bit tired of trying the gazillion possible mixes one can try. I am boarding the a314 train for the next couple of weeks. > > Keep the advice coming guys !🙂 I was under that assumption as well but reading posts by MHarris it seems like it’s actually closer to an 80% Rone 20% None ratio…heh who knew? Anyway for adding a little extra attraction to an A314 base you could do either straight None as was suggested which would be simple and easy to direct. You might be better off with Ammo however as Ammo would up the None but with an equal portion of Rone it won’t skew off the Rone/None ratio too much. Plus it has an equal portion of Anol which should help make your mix a little bit lighter and more social as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/7 "2010-10-26T10:50:53Z")
Good advice mates. I ordered a bottle of straight -enone 2,5mcg per spray to play around with. I am seriously coming to the the conclusion that a314 is the product for me. The hits are there, subtle and never in your face, but they are there. With the other products I do not have a clue what I am doing. And because I know a314 works for me I now have some building blocks to steer the product towards attracting women. Hopefully the jump from respect hits towards attraction hits is not impossible. So I have to keep myself from trying too many other products with the a314. These will skew my perception of what is actually going on. For now I will just try the 2,5mcg -enone. The only other products I think should be tested with a314 in a later stage are A1 and p83. But it is too soon for that now. And as I am typing this I see the David Deida book arriving at my doorstep. I have some reading to do 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-a314-for-attraction/42846/8 "2010-11-26T05:13:39Z")
try p93 with it also. I have used A314 with all kinds of putatives and socials. A314 and AMMO, pretty much, I have combined and mixed with all kinds… 😃