# Using Apparently conflicting products to your advantage

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 8, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085 "2008-09-08T21:02:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Closedform](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@Closedform](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Closedform)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085/1 "2008-09-08T21:02:52Z")

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In my use of A314 and others, I realized that pheros are very context sensitive and first impressions count… at least for a little while. I work at a retail store in a uniform. So When I worked I would wear A314 and that would make me Authoritative and somewhat standoffish however when I met people they became more friendly. Recently I went there in my street clothes wearing A314. Got the same amount of glances but was very distant from the people I was closer to in the previous situation as if I was a stranger.

ok, so I wore A314 and wagg to work. it seemed that in the situation I was friendly,laidback people were more friendly,comfy than usual and when I was acting authoritative I got more respect than I would without pheros

so I propose a theory, that if you establish congruency in a particular situation with one of the conflicting pheros you can establish congruency with a different phero in different situation with even the same people.

which if true and my experience wasn’t an anomaly it would solve some problems since at work I am not always authoritative or always laidback.  
I have not tested this out with none products nor am I really eager due to possible OD effects.  
perhaps someone else can

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085/2 "2008-09-08T21:45:39Z")

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> [@Closedform](#):
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> so I propose a theory, that if you establish congruency in a particular situation with one of the conflicting pheros you can establish congruency with a different phero in different situation with even the same people.

Dead on! If you aren’t congruent with your phero signature, regardless of what that might be, people will sense the conflict and their brains will disregard the phero signature.

Tisha talks of changing her phero signature all the time, in an environment where she sees the same people on a daily basis.

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**Author:** ![Closedform](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@Closedform](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Closedform)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085/3 "2008-09-08T23:40:09Z")

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but I’m more interested in using that “disregarding your signature” for the benefit of the user.  
so using the SAME phero signature for entirely different situations if it is somewhat conflicting.  
for example, I have to be authoritative for certain situations at certain times, but on most of the other times it behooves me to much more approachable. and since I am not generally a very approachable guy I need to lubricate the interaction.  
WAGG does that for me.

OK, I work as a security guard, but since I work alone in a very large place I need informants on the thieves (thieves are generally customers so no conflict of interest there for the employees) So I use wagg to create approachability since I’m not very good at that but wagg is terrible for establishing authority so I propose using both wagg and A314 so which ever situation I am in the most congruent phero will hopefully be noticed.

to the Point: Use congruency and lack thereof to my advantage by intentionally creating a conflict of pheros

It would be interesting to view tisha’s interaction with her associates with that change of signature.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085/4 "2008-09-09T02:12:01Z")

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I wore a combo of A314, p79 and p74 today. The circumstances weren’t ordinary today, but I felt as if I was being received as ‘your worst enemy or your best friend’.

Long story short, I was complaining about the broken A/C in my apartment. When I was complaining, I got the impression that they were scared/nervous, but as soon as they said they would get on it, I thanked them and made sure to leave on at least neutral vibes. They responded to that as if I had just told them their lives were being spared.

Conflicting signals can work, but you need to be able to play both roles and switch back and forth fluidly..or as fluidly as you need to.

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**Author:** ![Closedform](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@Closedform](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Closedform)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085/5 "2008-09-09T02:31:19Z")

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true, but I was more interested in things like if you met those same repairmen with the same dosage on neutral ground. Would they still hold the same impression with of you or would you be able to establish yourself as a person with a different temperament? (e.g. not so powerful from their pov)

my theory is that since they are not in the “role” of a repairman you could establish yourself as a great friend,etc that is separate and almost mutually exclusive with the previous relationship of customer-repairman

of course this depends on the subject and their ability to compartmentalize their life, but even so.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-apparently-conflicting-products-to-your-advantage/19085/6 "2008-09-09T08:50:45Z")

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Well, like I said, I made a long story short.

There were two people involved. The person in the leasing office, he was the one that seemed a bit intimidated (and the situation really doesn’t help his case..), the repairman and I actually got on much better than I had anticipated.

Originally my A/C was going to be fixed tomorrow afternoon, best case scenario. I went to the leasing office and asked them if it wasn’t possble to get the appropriate part from an unoccupied unit. Log (Leasing Office Guy 😃), said he would ask maintenance when he saw them and assured me that it would be fixed tomorrow.

I was about to leave, but I forgot my wallet and went back to my apartment. As I get there, I see repairman (RM). He greets me enthusiastically and tells me he has some good news for me. Somehow a spare motor turned up and he can install it in an hour. So I just reply, how fortunate. Ask him if he needs access to my apartment, RM says no, and joking about the weather, I ask how about some more water then? At that point, he tells me about how badly the rooms are designed, and reallly seems to want to talk. I wouldn’t have minded talking to him more, but I had to go. I can’t remember what he said, but it a very friendly conversation. Came back home a few hours later and my A/C works perfectly.

So, to answer your question, we might have got along just fine if somehow we met.

It certainly is possble to maintain two different relationships with an individual. But I think the circumstances are very important in those cases. Say, an office affair. Privately the couple is very intimate with each other, but in public they cannot show any affection for fear of discovery. Two different relationshps, dependant on situatin.

Or even two friends with different ranks in the army. Depending on the situation they are equals or one is superior and commands the other.
