# Using mones as playing tricks or manipulating people?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 27, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-mones-as-playing-tricks-or-manipulating-people/53037 "2011-10-27T12:26:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-mones-as-playing-tricks-or-manipulating-people/53037/1 "2011-10-27T12:26:56Z")
hey lovely ladies~~ I have been puzzled by this statement ‘love comes when we least expect it’ .. and I have read that lots of people support this above statement. I have also had girl friends saying that they are single and happy… I am 27 years old and I have someone I fancy and have been seeing him for almost 6months now but he does not want a serious relationship so I dont want to kid myself into thinking I can change his mind. I am slowly learning to let him be and let it go… I have been much calmer and peaceful inside. But meanwhile, I have been learning about male psyche and how attractions works, law of attraction and Tao of dating all sort of spiritual things~~ I guess I am asking the universe for a loving and fullfilling relationship and am working on it too. I am longing for some one at my level both emotionally and physically. The thing is the statement of ’ love comes when you least expect it’ makes me confused, so all my inner work done out of desperation?? Am I trying too hard?? now I am even experimenting with using mones, so definitely am working very hard in advancing myself in the area. But some other women would say just enjoy your life and be happy and the right man will show up, so they may dismiss all these things as tricks or manipulations. I hope I explain my confusion clear enough, I am just wondering, am I trying too hard? are using mones like playing tricks with people?? Thanxx all the lovely people here~~ personal stories / insights are much welcome!!! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-mones-as-playing-tricks-or-manipulating-people/53037/2 "2011-10-27T13:10:38Z")
I think your concern is more about LOA then mones. The key to influencing energy which is the essence of the law of attraction is not in the expecting but in the knowing. It go’s beyond just the longing for something. You can long for things all day and night but that doesn’t mean you will get them. Knowing on the other hand is that “place” where you stop expecting and stop looking. You just know it will happen. You dont know when or how you just know it will. Its a different energy and thats why people say “Love comes when you least expect it” The big hurdle is getting to that place of knowing. This is where all the LaLa stuff comes into our current perception of LOA. In a quest for that knowing various people have come up with tools to help you achieve the knowing. Affirmations, visualization, think happy thoughts, gratitude and they all help to a degree. The part people forget is to “let go” They turn it into a task instead of thought and feeling. They get stuck in the tasks and then look around expecting greatness to happen. The greatness happens in the letting go. Its fine to work on your inner self and to use all those tools if they help you become a better you and understand how the universe works. I am a firm believer they will as long as you learn to let go and believe me when it comes to “magick” thats the toughest part to learn. You can say the same for how mones work in a way. Its when you set them and forget them that they do there most amazing work. Because you let them go. Its not my belief that using any of these tools is manipulating people or tricking them. Yes energy can be manipulated but that go’s well beyond the realm of LOA and takes years of inner work to master. I see the tools as more a nudge. You can nudge someone but if they really do not want to go the way your nudging them they wont. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-mones-as-playing-tricks-or-manipulating-people/53037/3 "2011-10-31T16:32:22Z")
HI Tisha~ a quick update.. I got the pink sugar and now I cover the spell of EOW with it. I also spray some desire22. Its the 4th or 5th day using it, I have not really seen any effect on male species …maybe I am the exception to the rule ?? maybe I am the outlier?? oh well, I will keep trying and see what happens~~ how long does it take to work for women in general??/ thanxx ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-mones-as-playing-tricks-or-manipulating-people/53037/4 "2011-10-31T19:51:04Z")
First of all, if you feel you are too focussed on the guy, then focus on making yourself more attractive with mones/inner work. If not him then someone better. Secondly, you are only desperate if you bypass your dignity. This can be done, and is done daily, without any mones or trick or whatever help. “Tricks” can be seen as extra rather than a last resort. Much more positive. Thirdly, all interaction has a bit of manipulation to it. It is just that most of the time you lack focus in your manipulations 🙂 You may elicit a sexual response with your clothing, say “say away, this one is sick” with you scent and then say “I’m the boss” with your body language. This is much like vector addition in several directions; it does not amount to much of anything. No if you adjust your bodylanguage to show the same sexiness as your dress and add to that a mone that says “I’m healthy and fertile” your message is more effective. Not because it is more manipulative, but because it is more focussed.